A television actor and dancer killed in a traffic crash was violating laws by driving his motorcycle on a highway and filming without a permit, prosecutors in Mexicos capital said today. Edgar Ponce, who has appeared on television soap operas and in the male dance troupe For Women Only, died Thursday after a car hit his motorcycle on a highway where trucks, motorcycles and delivery vehicles are required to use side lanes. Police said the driver was not trying to kill Ponce, and did not appear drunk, but was accused of involuntary homicide — similar to manslaughter — and released on a bail of 300,000 pesos (US$27,000).
I am all for biker awarness on the road, and ofen have been the victim of some idiot not paying attention or looking in thier blind spot while switching lanes.....But no helmet and filming a commercial like that on a public highway at night......you would hate to say they had it coming. Not the smartest thing one can do.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jayhunter »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">But no helmet and filming a commercial like that on a public highway at night......you would hate to say they had it coming. Not the smartest thing one can do.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Had it coming !!!
and I suppose a girl wearing a skimpy outfit, and who happens to get assaulted had it coming too !!
From what I have seen, that driver plowed right through the group. I really don't see where they had it coming !
a girl wearing a skimpy outfit, no; a girl wearing a skimpy outfit inside a prison yard with no guards, HELL YES!!!! It is a matter of time and place, nothing more. I knew I would get responses like this. There are smart ways to ride and stupid ways to ride that give all riders a bad name. Riding in a group on a multilane highway at slow speed at night with no helmet and sunglasses on, paying attention more to how my hair looks for hte camera rather than others on the highway....COMON!!!!!! I will stand by my point regaurdless of the shit i get in reply. The highway is there for a reason, highspeed travel, not filming a stupid ass comercial for male striptease. Yes I ride motorcycles, Yes I hate cars that don't pay attention to bikers, but these guys were f*ck!ng idiots. I never said they caused the accident, but they put themselves in the worst possible place with no protection when the inevediable was to happen.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jayhunter »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Riding in a group on a multilane highway at slow speed at night with no helmet and sunglasses on, paying attention more to how my hair looks for hte camera rather than others on the highway....COMON!!!!!! .</TD></TR></TABLE>
I think what we have right here is the root of the problem.................you wish you had hair like that don't you?
(of couse this is a joke intended to lighten the impending $h!tstorm)
actually i am jelous of them because my own striptease performance was a flop. I don't intend to start a shit storm and ovbiously the person who hit them was completley in the wrong. I just don't think this is one of those slam dunk instances where you can say stupid driver/ poor biker. In this case they both are stupid.
by the way Section8, nice web store, i was looking around today. I do need some safteywire and am going to make my first purchse from you this week. I use to use kneedraggers and motowheels, but you seem to have a lot of input on this board so I will give you my business from now on.
In the video, you can see the car is not only speeding but does a pronounced nose dive an instant before the impact with the bikers; alluding to the fact that the driver wasn't paying attention to where he was going, nor was he watching the road because he suddenly slams on the brake at the sight of the motorcycles - had he been looking at the road ahead, he'd have seen them sooner. Both of which are his responsibility as a driver.
The fact that the motorcyclists weren't wearing helmets does not mitigate the driver's responsibility to obey speed laws, watch where he's going and keep his wherewithal to the extent he doesn't PLOW into a motorcyclist.
That said, I'm not negating the fact that they should have planned the commercial better (daylight, hello?) and that they probably shouldn't have used a public throughfare. Nonetheless, had the driver been paying attention and not speeding , he probably could have seen them in time.
Yes, it's important to wear a helmet and ride with your wits; however, if a 5000lbs Mercedes (which the car in the video appears to be; a late model Merc) slams into your doing 60mph you're in a world of hurt and there's not much you can do when you're rear-ended.
The only person who could have avoided this, was the driver.
Last night Univision had a show similar to dateline, 60 etc on this incident. The guy works for the federal goverment. He had beed out with his g/friend and had 3 glasses of wine in a period of 3-4 hours. He'll probably get off with a slap on the wrist. The bail was the equivalent to $8,000.00 He allegedly was on his way back from dropping off his girl and was going home. Claims he was tired, winked his eyesand rubbed them several times and came upon the bikes. On the other hand, they also reported that there are not bikes allowed on that road. They did not have a permit to film and had they, it would have been with a police escort. They showed many different angles and it was as spectacular as it was scary. I am not justifying anybodys position on this. We should all learn from this a few things. Check your mirrors periodically (I know, Ducati mirrors are useless. I'm on my thrid set), don't drink and ride, don't drink and drive. Keep an eye for bikers when we are driving. Spread the word and try and educate friends and family on how to act when driving when bikes are present. I'm not saying go out there and be militant about it. My wife now knows how and so do most of my non riding friends. At any rate, its a shame that something like this happened. He left behind a 12 y/o daughter. Being a new dad of a little girl, I can only think about that.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1Sl0wDuCrIdeR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It says he didn't appear to be drunk. But supposely he was...
That's what I heard. He should be hung. Involuntary Homocide? Kill the bastard!</TD></TR></TABLE>
No, he should be hanged. Hung is what male porn stars are.
Although this will likely never happen, everyone who has a driver's licence should be required to spend some time driving a motorcycle, then they would know how to share the road with these vehicles. I say this because I became much more aware of motorcycles after I had spent some time riding them. I have never cut off a bike in an intersection or lane changed into a bike. Why? Because I know what it's like to be on that bike when someone pulls that [email protected]*t so I take extra time looking before changing lanes or entering an intersection. Just my
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