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I have a Ducati 749 2004 in the Uk. It is still on its stock Michelin Sports tyres, which i think qualify as the worst tyres i have ever had the misfortune to have on any bike- it just doesnt want to turn in. Have lowered yorks as per Jason's recommendation, and tried different tyre pressures- they are crap!


Please help a frustrated ducatisti by passing on your recommendations for tyres


I do not take it on the track, but do like a nice twisty back road. I tend to ride 10 months.

Thanks Jamie
 
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Re: tyre choice poll (Jamie_Ducati)

Michelin Pilot Power
 
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My personnal dream team:
front: pirelli diablo corsa 120/70
rear: pirelli diablo std 180/55
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Re: tyre choice poll (Jamie_Ducati)

I have the same bike with the same tires...yeah, they keep the rims off the ground, but that's about all I like about them. They seem to have a major amount of tread squirm at good lean angles, and they are numb. Zero feedback from either end.

I'll be going with the Pilot Powers myself.
 
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Re: tyre choice poll (Jamie_Ducati)

diablo corsa's! great grip, tons of life!
 
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Re: tyre choice poll (Chuckles)

Your comments sum them up exactly, i was getting paranoid that my riding is crap!
 
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Re: tyre choice poll (Jamie_Ducati)

Just tried a set of Pilot Race at a trackday and they were shaweet.
 
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Re: tyre choice poll (Jamie_Ducati)

Northern monkey
 
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Re: tyre choice poll (neddyseagoon748)

If you want the bike to fall into turns easier, no question- Pilot Powers. I'm on my second set, and its by far the best motorcycle tire I've ever owned.
 
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Re: tyre choice poll (Jamie_Ducati)

Diablo Corsa's (DC's) all of the way. Linear turn it that's very predictable. Very stable when braking hard and extremely stable in the turns...no squirms at all. Plus they slide very predictably
They warm up when you look at them and if your riding style permits (smooth throttle) they wear very well


If you are experiencing "squirm" with any current tire then I'd bet that it's due to your suspension set-up or you are running the wrong pressures...you've got to remember that the Diablo and Diablo Corsas like higher pressure than what you are used to
The Pirelli Tire Guide recommends 34/36 for the Diablo and the DC, that's a big difference from the 31/30 that most tires recommend
Check out the second review below if you are a sceptic about the higher pressures...

Here's a control rider's reveiw...
http://www.nesba.com/TrackTalk....html
http://www.nesba.com/TrackTalk....html

Trying the Dragon <U>Supercorsas</U> at the end of the month


-Tifosi
 
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Pilot Powers are now on my R1 and I love 'em. Much better than the OE Bridgestone 218's.
 
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Re: tyre choice poll (Jamie_Ducati)

The June issue or Roadracing World has a amazing review of both track/sport tires and race tires. There first choice is:

Dunlop208 GP-A (high performance street/track day tires)

Michelin Power Race & Bridgestone Battleaxe BT0002F/R tied (race tires)

Tons of info and interesting comments.
 
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Re: tyre choice poll (duc_748)

Funny thing about that Roadracing World Tire Test...fastest lap times for both riders and both bikes? Bridgestones.
 
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Re: tyre choice poll (Chuckles)

Many thanks to all those who viewed and contributed.

I have acquired a set of dunlop 208 at a very cheap price to try for this time round then i will get power pilots.

Can anyone advise what the handling is like with a 120/60 17 front tyre, does it make the front end too lively? I know what the press have said about the yamaha r6 which had a 60 profle as stock...

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Re: tyre choice poll (Jamie_Ducati)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jamie_Ducati »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Many thanks to all those who viewed and contributed.

I have acquired a set of dunlop 208 at a very cheap price to try for this time round then i will get power pilots.

Can anyone advise what the handling is like with a 120/60 17 front tyre, does it make the front end too lively? I know what the press have said about the yamaha r6 which had a 60 profle as stock...

thanks
Jamie
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The 60-series front tire is fine...the bike should "turn-in" pretty quick with it, but you can accomplish the same charachteristic with the 70-series by adjusting your suspension. I think the biggest reason why people go to the 70-series is to have more tire to use at big lean angles


Now that I've re-read your original post, I think that your slow "turn in" problem comes from the actual profile of the Sports...sounds like you want a tire with a "pointier" profile...

-Tifosi
 
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Just finished a track day with a set of powers.

What a tire!!!!

It still looks like i could have at least another 2..3 track days with it, yet the grip was awesome.

The dual compound thing is very nice, the middle part is still nice and rounded, and the sides got very soft and gripped awesome all day long, even on lap one.

These tires warm up quick for a street tire!

I did not feel any movement from them, except when i got overly eager with the throttle coming out of oak tree, even then it was very slight and predictable.

Thumbs up all around!
 
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Jb,
What tires have you used before the Powers? Can you post a comparison (grip, warm-up time, turn-in feel, etc.) in your honest opinion for us?

Thanks,
Tifosi
 
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I never ran Pirellies, so i can't compare to Diablo Corsas.

I ran metzler m1s, and michelin pilot sports.

Both tires are no comprison to Powers. Powers is better in every category i can think off, including TIRE LIFE.
 
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jbraslins »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I never ran Pirellies, so i can't compare to Diablo Corsas.

I ran metzler m1s, and michelin pilot sports.

Both tires are no comprison to Powers. Powers is better in every category i can think off, including TIRE LIFE.
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Cool, thanks man...guess I'll have to try a set this summer

-Tifosi
 
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