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How many of you;

1. Practice full on PANIC braking drills from various speeds and surface conditions.........

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2. Do the same thing with a passenger, (assuming you ride on the street with a passenger) and do you explain and demonstrate to said passenger what to do and why they must do it.

Just wondering.

Semper Fi! :rockon

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Monoposto 748 so no Passengers

Practiced full on stops at a track day drill.

Did a full on panic stop with the rear about 2 feet in the air in traffic not much later. The eyes of the guy behind me were like pie plates. He though I was going to eat the rear end of the car in front of me.

Mid air I remember thinking, you need to let off the brake. I Put it down with about 2 feet to spare.

BTW it was my fault. Not paying enough attention in heavy traffic.
 

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can't remember where I heard or read a statistic that if riding 2 up then the operator is more likely to get killed and the passenger is more likely to survive... again can't recell the source or the validity...:twocents

i guess it helps having a cushion:D
 

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1: Sheetchyeah! I practice the panic braking wherever I think I can get away with it. I also practice riding directly over objects, some quite large. But that's more of a dirt bike thing.

2: No, I don't. I take short trips with my 6 year old daughter... I haven't thought to go do parking lot drills with her on the back. Maybe I should.
 

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How many of you;

1. Practice full on PANIC braking drills from various speeds and surface conditions.........
Yes... my tools that are part of my riding plans...

Step 1
Sort your bike out... check tire pressures and condition, suspension
settings, brake condition, then find a smooth, straight, clean bit of road
without too much camber. Do a few runs braking fairly hard to warm the
tires and get a feel for how it handles. As you line up for your first hard
stop, you need to be relaxed... If you find yourself pitching forward, grip
the tank with your knees to hold your weight off the bars...

Step 2
The initial phase is important because how you first apply the brakes
determines how the bike reacts. Your brakes are not an on/off switch.
You're looking for a smooth initial application that transfers weight on to
the front tire without suddenly compressing the suspension. If you just
grab on the lever, the suspension bottoms out, and then it can't absorb
any more movement. Something has to give and it's usually the tire which
may begin to break traction... So be smooth and be firm... that's the key...

Step 3
Having transferred the weight onto the front tire, you've given yourself
bags of extra grip. To use it, you need to increase the pressure on the
lever progressively. On any modern Sportsbike and most all Standards you
should be able brake hard enough for the rear wheel to lift off the ground.
If it starts hopping that's because the engine is locking it up... clutch in or
slipped and it should stop...
This is hard as you can brake in normal conditions. At this point, the rear
brake's no use to you at all. This is not a stoppie, by the way, that's a
separate stunt...

Step 4
Once you're up to full braking effort, you still have to assess what's going
in you path. If you're about to cross a patch of oil or cross a patch of dirt,
you'll want to release the lever pressure slightly, then increase it again as
the extra risk is passed. You need to be relaxed enough so that if you feel
the wheel locking, you can let lever off until it spins again, then get back
up to braking pressure. The only way to make this an instinctive reaction is
to practise deliberately locking and releasing the brake... if you don't wish
to risk your prize then Keith Code has a special bike built just for you called
the Panic Brake Trainer...


Step 5
As you come almost to the point of stopping, you'll obviously need to
actuate the clutch lever in to avoid stalling you can do this as soon as you
start to brake, but why not use the engine braking for it will help you keep
control. Secondly, slightly slightly release the braking pressure at the very
last moment. This gives the suspension a chance to return to normal
otherwise you come to a halt, and the forks bounce up from full travel,
which can unbalance you as try to put your foot down and stop... mercy
you don't want to avoid an accident and then drop the bike like a
beginner...

How about your BIKE???
I trust it's in good shape, well-adjusted, and with plenty of life left in brake
pads and tires. Wrong tires pressures or worn tires can destroy braking feel
and performance

HANDS???
Some people use all four fingers on the brake lever, and some prefer two or
three. One is a possible with the latest race brakes but I find that the less
fingers the harder to get the fine control I need on the track... so I
alternate between two on the street and four on the track... no one is
going to criticize the number of fingers as long as you can brake in the
shortest distance possible listed in the owners manual...

SURFACE???
Constantly changing... after all... it's the perverted highway... so you need
to keep changing your braking pressure, and be prepared to let the brakes
off altogether over really slippery bits...

ARMS
Don't lock them straight... for you'll lose feel and control. Brace your body
weight by taking weight through the foot pegs and gripping the tank dents
between your knees...

CLUTCH
Leave it engaged until the very last moment it should help you stop quicker
and more in control if you use the engine braking. If the engine starts to
lock the back wheel up, slip the clutch slightly exactly as you would when
you pull away... now if your prize sports a slipper clutch then it will limit the
engine braking automatically for you...

BRAIN
Thinking to itself, "Do I need to stop? Couldn't I just bleed off a little speed
and ride round the problem? Where are my escape routes?" If you plan
well enough ahead then you should hardly ever need to do an emergency
stop. You should always be aware of your position in relation to the
perverted traffic full of cagers out slaughtering the fine art of driving...

EYES
Constantly looking for another way out of trouble... don't look at the
problem or you'll ride straight towards it... rather focus on your escape route...


AND

2. Do the same thing with a passenger, (assuming you ride on the street with a passenger) and do you explain and demonstrate to said passenger what to do and why they must do it.

Just wondering.

Semper Fi! :rockon

-Rocky-
The last time I had a female passenger I said whoa Lady... that is not
a hand hold but don't stop squeezing...

Besides being really smooth your passenger needs the proper
briefing before the ride... instruct your passenger to place their
hands on your hips not the tank... during a stop instruct your
passenger to arrest their forward momentum by stiff legging the
footpegs... her weight should not be allowed to crush you back...
 

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ya know Larry, you seriously NEED to get laid, and the sooner the better...

we can all send in a dollar if it takes money to get it done...


I guess somebody here needs to come up with a seperate CHARITY thread for donations...
and remember folks they could be tax deductible... :D
 

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ya know Larry, you seriously NEED to get laid, and the sooner the better...

we can all send in a dollar if it takes money to get it done...


I guess somebody here needs to come up with a seperate CHARITY thread for donations...
and remember folks they could be tax deductible... :D
I hope he gets breast cancer!:banghead
 

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ya know Larry, you seriously NEED to get laid, and the sooner the better...

we can all send in a dollar if it takes money to get it done...


I guess somebody here needs to come up with a seperate CHARITY thread for donations...
and remember folks they could be tax deductible... :D
Mercy dawg... my tubes don't need cleaned out...
 
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