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Discussion Starter · #1 ·
If you were to get pulled over for a minor traffic violation (i.e. speeding) what do you do? Do you tell the officer that you knew you were speeding (admit guilt)or tell him/her you were unaware of what you were doing?(stupid and irresponsible) Do you sit on the bike and wait for him/her to approach or do you quickly dismount and remove your helmet? What is the best way to handle a pull over without pissing off the person in charge? (tell us your stories)
 
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Discussion Starter · #2 ·
Re: Police Stop (monkeynuke)

i've been pulled over several times on the bike, but never in the car. quick dismount, helmet off, papers in hand. when they ask how fast i was going i usually say somthing like 'too fast, i guess'. everything yes sir, no sir, thank you sir etc. to this day i've got a clean driving record-they just keep giving me 15 or whatever $ 'traffic impedment' tickets. no points.
for the times i'd been speeding purposfully, if i'd gotten pulled over there is no debate. my ass would be in jail, and the bike would be for sale.
 
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Discussion Starter · #3 ·
Re: Police Stop (monkeynuke)

This is the way I do it.

Pull over safely, use your blinker. Turn off bike, remove helmet, remove key. Wait till officer approaches. Remove proper information when officer asks for it. Do not admit guilt. You could say, maybe I was going a bit to fast but never tell them how fast you were going. Lets say you said you were going 80 and they estimated you at another speed, they'll write you for 80. Trust me I know.

I was let go after being caught going over a buck (no not a deer) on I 696 in Mi. I never admited guilt. I did say I was probably going to fast. I used the above method and the cop let me go because I was honest, candid and that I actually pulled over.
 
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Discussion Starter · #4 ·
Re: Police Stop (monkeynuke)

never admit guilt for anything!!and dont jump off your bike and rip your lid off or they will take that as a act of egresion(sp?) best thing to do is just shut the bike off stay calm and try to talk nice to them .but never ever admit you are guilty because if it has to go to court you dont have a leg to stand on if you have already said you did it.
 
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Discussion Starter · #5 ·
Re: Police Stop (Capt. Home Slice)

Point to the shoulder, motioning that you are pulling over, get off the bike, and by the time you get to your chin strap, you should be on the ground with a shotgun at your head.



For minor infractions, stop, tell the chick to get off the back, then get your papers from the hot smoldering compartment about 1 inch above your $2000 exhaust, and hand them to the officer while she unzips her coat.....

 
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Discussion Starter · #7 ·
Re: Police Stop (Capt. Home Slice)

I've come to the conclusion that all of the advice you hear about how to act makes no difference at all. Your liklihood of getting a ticket probably depends more upon whether the cop in question had a good breakfast that day, or if he is getting along with his wife.


Seriously, I've had every extreme. There have been times where I was as nice as could be, to the point that the cop and I were having a friendly chat about bikes, and where I like to ride, etc., as if we were just two riders who met up in a cafe. And yet, here he comes back with a full-on ticket - for like, 10 over the speed limit on a two-lane highway!

On the other hand, I was pulled over in California coming back from a race. I was driving my crew cab dually, pulling a tiny trailer. But California has - among other things - one of the stupidest laws I've ever seen. If you're pulling a trailer, ANY kind of trailer, you can't go faster than 55mph on the Interstate. Buses? Motorhomes? Ryder trucks with first-time drivers behind the wheel? No problem! You can go 75 in the fast lane all day long! But if you've got a trailer behind you, YOU have to stay in the right lane like a sitting duck...

So I was going about 65 with the trailer - still getting blown by on both sides by the other traffic, mind you - and I get pulled over. I was fuming! By the time I found an exit and pulled over, I was ready to go off on the CHP officer. I didn't care!

So I started in on him the moment he got to my window, but he started to interrupt me, telling me if I would just calm down a minute he would explain to me what the deal was. Turns out he pulls a camper trailer himself, and he thinks the law is as stupid as I do, but they were on a "special enforcement" mission that week, so he had to pull me over.

Anyway, he sent me on my way with a warning. Even though I was being a complete shit to him.

So in conclusion, there's just no rhyme or reason with these cops. You pulls over and you takes your chance, I say.
 
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Discussion Starter · #8 ·
Re: Police Stop (Capt. Home Slice)

I once had a cop take my key out of my ignition and toss it into the woods on the side of the highway
, so I have since opted to remove the key myself and retain it in the palm of my hand as soon as I pull over.
I would agree that dismounting the bike could be a bad idea , just sit there and wait for the officer to approach you and go from there before you go digging around for all your stuff.
 
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Discussion Starter · #9 ·
Re: Police Stop (999Duc)

I pull the key out so they know I'm not going to run (one of the common phenomena when bikes get caught speeding) Then I wait to get my info out so that they don't think I'm going for a weapon (I do live in Detroit you know). Cops get shot here all the time and I don't want them to think that I'm a threat.
 
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Discussion Starter · #10 ·
Re: Police Stop (Capt. Home Slice)

A little anecdote- I was driving in bumper to bumper traffic one Sunday morning and passed some cars. An unmarked cop car pulls a U turn. Cop jumps out of the car with his 5 d-cell battery flashlight brandished almost in my face, pulls the key out of the ignition. So I get off the bike and push it over to the side of the road. All the while, he and his backup are watching me with their hands on their guns! Not a good situation , eh? As soon as I pull off my helmet I tell the cop "Officer I think I have a problem, my license is suspended" (an arrestable offense in Florida) He asks me what it was suspended for and I tell him for failure to appear in court for a minor moving violation. He says ok, if your story checks out I won't arrest you. Of course it does but then he says to me " I can't let you go b/c if you hurt someone, the dept could be liable." I say to him, thanks for the break officer, I'll just walk three miles to the nearest phone and get someone to pick me up. Mind you this is Miami in August, pushing 90 degrees and I'm in my leathers. Then he comes up to me out of earshot of his partner, who was a major dick, and says "Alright, push your bike down that side street and as soon as you can't see us, go home." Which I did. Moral of the story-you can't bullshit a bullshitter. Tell them about any problems BEFORE they look it up, make no admissions and be as nice as you can be.
 
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Discussion Starter · #11 ·
Re: Police Stop (monkeynuke)

Most officers will tell you the same thing: turn off the motorcycle, turn on your flashers if you have them, take your helmet off, and keep your hands out where they can be seen. Stay on the bike, maybe turn around once or twice so they can see you aren't a derranged lunatic (unless, of course, you are). The officer is going to be wait to see the results of running your plate before he gets out and approaches you, so you'll have plenty of time. Don't reach for your license or dig for your registration until you're asked. My staying seated on the motorcycle, the threat level to the officer is much lower than if you're standing. Plus, since I'm 6'4" tall and most cops are short, it keeps the Napoleon Complex from kicking in.

If the officer asks you how fast you were going, never admit your speed. It is an admission of guilt and will be noted on the ticket. The simple answer is "No sir." Or, you can say you thought you were going the speed limit or that you were just keeping up with the flow of traffic.

When I get a ticket on my car or bike, I immediately start looking for things I can use for my defense in court -- lack of speed signage, lack of clear line of site if the officer was shooting radar or lidar, etc. I go to court for all tickets I receive, except those from out of state. I have gotten every single ticket reduced or dismissed prior to going to trial. Tickets are simply a way to gather revenue, and going to court turns that profitable ticket into a money-loser for the municipality. If your popped for speeding, they will offer you a plea 100% of the time (except for some little hayseed towns, where they don't have anything better to do). If you're popped for reckless, racing, etc., you probably will want an attorney.

Check out http://www.motorists.com/ for more information.
 
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Discussion Starter · #12 ·
Re: Police Stop (Aldo Busot)

Every time I've been pulled over on a bike I have always done the same thing.

Pull as far off the road as possible, turn off the bike, dismount and remove helmet, then wait for the officer to approach.

I've done this every time, and have never been told that I should stay on the bike.
 
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Discussion Starter · #13 ·
Re: Police Stop (Dave)

Just as I was reading this, I turned it to MTV for a special edition of Cribs that focuses on cars. Busta Rhyme is showing off his yellow H2, and says "just a message to all the no-good blue out there, if you ever pull over this ride, you better watch how you handle the kid." Then he showed us how to brush the stems out of your cashmere floormats in your Murcielago. Must be nice.

Brennan
 
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Discussion Starter · #14 ·
Re: Police Stop (monkeynuke)

I can't remember how many times I've gotten pulled over ( mind you only for speeding twice
) , the majority of the time it's a bike cop just wanting to look at the bike ,ask questions , i offer to let him ride it , a few have , and we've hooked up a few times to blast the canyons around the bay area ... but .. i was lat efor a doctors appointment , got the metering light at the on ramp ,saw a nice openning and ripped it to the limiter in 1,2 and third all the way to the # 1 lane , so i know i was goin just a little faster than the posted limit
.and setteled in . any way .. i didn't see the C.H.P. cruzin behind the box van . they got behind me and flashed those pertty red and blues , being that Ducatis have EXCELLENT mirrors i didn't see a thing , so gets next to me ( she's GOOD LOOKING TO !! ) points to the shoulder , so off i go pull over stop , side stand down , put the key around my wrist , off comes the lid ( dam she's GOOD LOOKIN !! search me please !! ) any way .. asks me what the rush is ? i tell her that i'm late for this test at Kaiser , and I already took the last meds ( dyes and such ) She starts to laugh and explains that she had to do the same thing , because you have to be squeaky clean inside, so now I'm starting to squirm . she laughs and tell me to just be careful and the exhaust is to loud and slicks are not legal on the city streets or public high ways , I say yes of course beautiful and smile ... uuuhhhtt ooohhh !!
stone cold look just hit her face like P.M.S. on steriods !! I correct my self .. uummm yes mamm , she smiles and hands me her card , gets in her car and leaves ..that is my best experience so far ..
 
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Discussion Starter · #15 ·
Re: Police Stop (04749s)

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Discussion Starter · #16 ·
Re: Police Stop (monkeynuke)

i seem to hit a ton every time i ride but lucky to only get stopped with 10 to 15 over...the first time i got written up i took the advanced safety course and attached the sticker on the fender under my seat...my state doesn't require registration but does require insurance which i have laminated and zip tied to the under seat frame...now i hand signal a safe place to pull over and wait for instructions..."my licence is in my wallet in my front pants pocket and my insurance is under the seat"...when approved i give them one at a time...my last four stops have ended with the "oh you've taken the MSF course, well just be more carefull"...as for speed..."well officer, this bike's italian, they make great motors but crappy electrics and speedos...it bounces around so much i couldn't tell you how fast i was going"...
 
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Discussion Starter · #17 ·
Re: Police Stop (monkeynuke)

I have been pulled over too many times to count and when on the bike I usually get away with a warning. I always pull over, turn off the bike, remove helmet and wait for the officer to approach. I respond with yes/no sir or mam. I never admit guilt and when asked if I know why I was pulled over or how fast I was going I always act bummed out and explain that I wasn't paying very good attention but thought I was going near the speed limit (or some variation of that depending on the circumstances). Now I do not want to jinx myself but this has always worked extremely well for me.

Here is the reason I have never offered a speed to an officer. On occasions that I have been pulled over on a bike I told the officer that I wasn't sure how fast I was going and on all occasions they told me that they clocked me at a speed much slower than I was. I believe that the radar has a hard time getting a fix on bikes and they either estimate or by the time they do clock you it is possible that you have seen them and already slowed down.

Example 1: About 10 years ago I was cruising on the Florida Turnpike at 125mph in the right lane. I was coming up on a semi and as I went to pass him in the left lane I make eye contact with a Florida Trooper 20 feet to my left sitting in the turnaround between the road divider baracades. I am sure he was as surprised as me. So I immediately rolled off the throttle, looked behind me and saw the blue lights. I didn't wait and just pulled over and waited for him. When he approached me he asked if I knew how fast I was going. He said he clocked me at 83mph. I played stupid, treated him with respect and he wrote me a ticket 79 since 80+ would have been a major offence.

Example 2: About a year ago I was out riding with a group on a lonely road. One of my friends is a cop and he took off after a guy we didn't know but he was moving fast. I'm going to give you the short version here because there is a much longer story that has nothing to do with my point. So, of course, my sheep a$$ takes off after him and we are going well above 100mph for about 5 miles when I see him signal for me to slow down. Up ahead there are two sherrif's with their lights on blocking the road. They pulled us over, let us stand around in full leathers for 1 hour in 90 degree Florida sunshine, but in the end they let us go because of my friend the police officer. They said if they let him go on professional courtesy then they had to do the same for all of us.
Oh yeah, my point, when they pulled us over they told us that we were clocked doing 89mph. Needless to say, I consider myself lucky and I have not done that kind of speed on public roads since.

I am looking forward to my next trip to North Carolina. My bike never sees over 70mph in the mountains. Everytime I come home I realize that the only way to get that adrenaline rush in Florida is to ride fast. In the mountains, doing 50mph in the twistys is like a drug addiction for me.
 
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Discussion Starter · #18 ·
Like yourselves I have all manner of experiences with the cops here. Mostly bad, here they seem to to treat you with slightly more respect when I was on the Harley, but mind you I was threatened a few times as well, now the sports bikes are another story. No respect, sheesh, had the cops pull my brother in law and me over, I almost crash, the in law does the dash, I get sworn at and abused, all the while they pursue him and push him over into the guard rail on the Anzac bridge. He gets away with a warning, I on the other hand get the book thrown at me with an estimated speed(no radar readout, just alleged), had a clean record for 13years, no offences, they didnt care, and they where training recruits how use the radar guns. Blatant cash revenue here, dont know with Duke, we will see what awaits me.
 
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Discussion Starter · #19 ·
Re: Police Stop (monkeynuke)

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every two to three weeks i get to handcuff and search her !!!

did i mention that she is god dam good lookin !!
 
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Discussion Starter · #20 ·
I've gotten pulled over 4 times on the 996 all because I have my plate underneath the seat. Not mounted, literally underneath by the computer. All let me go, just one bothered to write a warning ticket. Always get off bike and helmet while waiting. Even joked when one cop asked me why I thought he stopped me and I said 'To look at my bike' but then immediately said "no, sir, i'm just kidding'.
 
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