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To the horror of incumbent Democrats seeking re-election, Obama tells the NY Times that he's come to understand that there is no such thing as a "shovel ready" job.
He regrets making himself look like a tax and spend Democrat....maybe in the next two years he'll admit he hadn't a clue WTF he was doing the whole time he was in office....despite the fact that 60% of the US already thinks so already.:D
Obama: "No Such Thing as Shovel-Ready Projects" - Political Hotsheet - CBS News
 

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An easy mistake to make for a guy who's never had a "real" job in his fookin' life (except for dealing crack in college..........):banghead

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You forgot the title Community Organizer...its the job where he along with ACORN and SEIU accused banks of being racist unless they loaned money to people who couldn't ever pay it back.:clapper
 

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I guess it depends on the definition of "shovel-ready". If that means give them the money today and start excavation tomorrow then, yeah, maybe there are no shovel-ready projects. Maybe someone should ask what the average delay time is before criticizing. I mean, a little knowledge should be called for before shooting your mouth off.

So, nycstripes, why not enlighten us with some knowledge, since you are up to speed on what "shovel-ready" means.


Instead of wasting time with this bloody thread you should start one on the foreclosures and Obama's pre-election promise to put a moratoirium on foreclosures. A promise that was never kept. Now, that is something meaningful.

By the way, I've seen several highway projects around here with the funded-by-stimulus signs by the roadside. That money is putting people to work. The effectiveness of the program is debatable though, just like practically everything.
 

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I guess it depends on the definition of "shovel-ready". If that means give them the money today and start excavation tomorrow then, yeah, maybe there are no shovel-ready projects. Maybe someone should ask what the average delay time is before criticizing. I mean, a little knowledge should be called for before shooting your mouth off.

So, nycstripes, why not enlighten us with some knowledge, since you are up to speed on what "shovel-ready" means.


Instead of wasting time with this bloody thread you should start one on the foreclosures and Obama's pre-election promise to put a moratoirium on foreclosures. A promise that was never kept. Now, that is something meaningful.

By the way, I've seen several highway projects around here with the funded-by-stimulus signs by the roadside. That money is putting people to work. The effectiveness of the program is debatable though, just like practically everything.

Not for nothing, but the highway projects are being funded by capitol project money going back to George Bush Sr or farther back. Obama can't justly take credit for anything but the f'in highway signs that claim he's the one repaving the perfectly paved street that doesn't need it in the first place.

Its ok to admit that Obama lies for a living, shit, even he said that he went too far by making this annoying claim over and over. I especially enjoy you trying to defend what Obummer even won't.

As for a definition of "shovel ready" it means that people can be put to work, almost immediately...which never happened despite the liar in chief's claims to the contrary. I think that you enjoy being kicked in the balls on almost a daily basis with retarded responses like this one.

Find me a revised definition in the dictionary for READY. I guess we'll have to accept a 60 month lead time when that claim is made in the future now that Obummer can't deliver a single job except to the Czar's he appoints.
 

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I don't know where you heard that but I can guess.:rolleyes: Glenn Beck University?:D :D :D Hah, hah, hah.

BTW, I'm not debating that most of the funding was inneffective. That isn't the point. The point is that some of it was and that some jobs were saved. Nothing being 100% effective, I know to expect less than that. No one has put a number on the effectiveness and I'm not even sure it's possible given the complexity of this economy. If Republicans were in power they would have done practically the same thing because when you are at the helm you have to do something and there is pressure to do so from everyone, including the other side of the isle. But then after you do something, when the trajedy is averted, those same people will come back and criticized the very thing they would have done themselves. Change parties and everything is substancially the same- like when Bush started all the bailouts. That's how it works every time and it's all so predictable and disingenuous. Same goes for what I read on this forum.
 

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I don't know where you heard that but I can guess.:rolleyes: Glenn Beck University?:D :D :D Hah, hah, hah.

BTW, I'm not debating that most of the funding was inneffective. That isn't the point. ...uh, yes it is exactly the point. Obama sold the nation on Stimulus mostly on the sales pitch that jobs would be falling out of the sky and that turned out to be complete bullshit, thus putting the poor results of Stimulus spending squarely on Obama's shoulders. The point is that some of it was and that some jobs were saved (which jobs exactly? ). Nothing being 100% effective, I know to expect less than that. No one has put a number on the effectiveness and I'm not even sure it's possible given the complexity of this economy. Its not rocket science, stop spending money we don't have and stop borrowing money we can't pay back. If Republicans were in power they would have done practically the same thing because when you are at the helm you have to do something and there is pressure to do so from everyone, including the other side of the isle. That's also not true, not until faced with the probability of being thrown out on their asses did the Democrats then suggest that tax cuts would be stimulative for the economy. It still don't happen too easily because the Dems control both the House and Senate but its being floated to sound good before the elections. But then after you do something, when the trajedy is averted, those same people will come back and criticized the very thing they would have done themselves. Change parties and everything is substancially the same- like when Bush started all the bailouts. That's how it works every time and it's all so predictable and disingenuous. Same goes for what I read on this forum.
You really are party retarded aren't you?
The President of the United States admitted that he was full of shit for using the "shovel ready" term over and over again since being elected.

It has nothing to do with the Republicans or Glenn Beck. It has to do with a horribly ineffective sales campaign on Stimulus money that hasn't accomplished jack shit. Nothing has been averted, the mortgages are still insolvent, commercial property will also eventually tank and tank badly. No jobs were created and the jobs saved thing is utter nonsense to everyone except you apparently.:rolleyes:
The reason the Tea Party has the strength that it does is because they're able to call the Republicans on the bad decisions they've made like TARP by Bush. I wasn't a fan of it then and less with Obummer's non-stimulating stimulus package. You apparently can't find the will to criticize anyone or anything within the Democratic party which makes you the blind follower that you claim everyone else to be.

The Republicans don't matter in this scenario because they are not in command of either the House or the Senate nor the Oval Office and haven't had any of it since January 2009. Face it, the Democrats are screwing the pooch and they're about to get creamed at the voting booths in a few weeks time.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it guitar boy...:D
 

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Phuk! Don't you even read my posts? Post #4, just above this one, I severly criticized Obama for the non-moratorium on foreclosures. That was a big freaking fail, IMO. You're like talking to the wall.

In the previous post you stated "nothing has been averted". That shows just how much you don't know, absolutley. If AIG had gone under, next would have been General Electric. After that all hell would have broken out on Main Street. Trajedy WAS averted - of that you can be sure. Today's unemployment would have looked absolutely rosy if nothing had been done. And you know, the bailout money is steadily being repayed. That must really stick in your craw. Did you see AIG's announced plan last month? Not if your past posts are any indication.

Speaking of sticking in your craw, it must really go down hard to think that the socialist demons saved capitalism from it's own greedy self. Fortunately, government does have some usefull purposes.
 

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Maybe instead of changing the topic when you have nothing productive to counter with....you could actually comment directly to the original post? That would be original of you...wouldn't it?

Back on topic, Obama is busy throwing Nancy Pelosi under the bus for Democratic policy since he's been in office. Its actually entertaining to witness the breakdown of the Democratic Machine just ahead of the mid-term elections.

Is Obama blaming Pelosi?

Its even slightly entertaining to see Obama move away from Joe Biden for the possibility that he'd be kicked off the ticket for 2012.

The clearing out of the White House cabinet has been another quiet happening.
 

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Everything that comes out of aHole51's piehole is "shovel ready" :woot:
Like a bowel movement in reverse.:mad:
 

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Maybe instead of changing the topic when you have nothing productive to counter with....you could actually comment directly to the original post? That would be original of you...wouldn't it?

Back on topic, Obama is busy throwing Nancy Pelosi under the bus for Democratic policy since he's been in office. Its actually entertaining to witness the breakdown of the Democratic Machine just ahead of the mid-term elections.

Is Obama blaming Pelosi?

Its even slightly entertaining to see Obama move away from Joe Biden for the possibility that he'd be kicked off the ticket for 2012.

The clearing out of the White House cabinet has been another quiet happening.
Again, no, AGAIN, you are not reading my posts. Number 4, again, just above this one, ONE THIS PAGE, see it, NUMBER 4? I directly addressed your original post. I'm sorry if you think your thread deserves more verbage but I do not.

On Biden and 2012. Hillary Clinton. Republicans must be nervous.
Who could the Pubs give us, given the Evangelical stranglehold? Sarah Palin and Christine O'Donnell, the wicked witches of the north and east?:D
 
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