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Pics of Honda's new adventure bike....782cc Vtec V4.....Faster and Faster: 2011 Honda Crossrunner: First official pics, specs
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Still V4 Crap.
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Honda's in a world of hurt.
I am one of very few motorcyclists who really liked the vtec 800 motor. I thought it was great in the VFR.
I am a committed naked bike buyer. I have owned oodles of them.
I am pretty sure I'm not going to buy a Crosstour, Crossrunner, Crossword puzzle, Cross dresser, Crossing Guard, whatever it is. And I don't know why. A sit-up naked VFR based motorcycle sounds great, and this one isn't any uglier than the last several bikes I've owned. I just can't see myself buying ANY motorcycles in the near future. Well maybe a MX bike to replace my MY'00 YZ426, but only if I start spending more time racing.
I am one of very few motorcyclists who really liked the vtec 800 motor. I thought it was great in the VFR.
I am a committed naked bike buyer. I have owned oodles of them.
I am pretty sure I'm not going to buy a Crosstour, Crossrunner, Crossword puzzle, Cross dresser, Crossing Guard, whatever it is. And I don't know why. A sit-up naked VFR based motorcycle sounds great, and this one isn't any uglier than the last several bikes I've owned. I just can't see myself buying ANY motorcycles in the near future. Well maybe a MX bike to replace my MY'00 YZ426, but only if I start spending more time racing.
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Just got back from the Milan Bike Show (report and LOTS of pictures to come later 
) and saw the thing in the flesh.
It's nothing more than a VFR800VTEC (same engine, same frame, same radiators, same swingarm) with a Hornet 600 headlight, new plastics and a bigger tank (21L).
To say dealers are unenthusiastic about having to peddle it the public would be an understatement.
) and saw the thing in the flesh.It's nothing more than a VFR800VTEC (same engine, same frame, same radiators, same swingarm) with a Hornet 600 headlight, new plastics and a bigger tank (21L).
To say dealers are unenthusiastic about having to peddle it the public would be an understatement.
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Cut my wrist and it will bleed Honda red but this silly thing proves they don't know what to do with a V4...
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Honda's moto division is in a tailspin 'cause the passion is gone and the accountants have taken over. They can't see the forest for the trees . Cases in point : the dual-clutch transmission is a revelation but the bike it's in is an overweight dud . And the Fury cruiser is a suprisingly bold (albeit late) stylistic move but has acres of plastic and an anemic engine instead of a fire-breathing , 1800cc drag monster mill . Of late , Big Red has settled for middle of the road . Sad .
But doesn`t the engine for this beauty trace its lineage back to those fine V4 Hondas which (were) conquered (on) tracks many years back....
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Yeah , this whole obsession they have with the V4 is , I think , based on the Japanese philosophy or mindset of respecting history and past designers . Ironic considering their simultaneous desire to discover the next best thing . Yamaha's crossplane I4 is a historical game-changer and offers the same desirable power characteristics (if any ) as a V4 without a penalty in weight , packaging , complexity , or cost . I just wish they had placed it in a prettier and lighter chassis . I'd have one if they had . I guess it's too much to ask them to include geared cams too !
) as a V4 without a penalty in weight , packaging , complexity , or cost . I just wish they had placed it in a prettier and lighter chassis . I'd have one if they had . I guess it's too much to ask them to include geared cams too !
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Really sad attempt by Honda to make an adventure bike.
Glad I bought the Yamaha Super Ténéré
That Crossdresser Honda is just plain stupid looking. Harley rake out front and samsonite luggage bags :woot: I suspect that rake out front is due to the long V4 engine configuration. I won't mention the beek out front :wtf
Glad I bought the Yamaha Super Ténéré
That Crossdresser Honda is just plain stupid looking. Harley rake out front and samsonite luggage bags :woot: I suspect that rake out front is due to the long V4 engine configuration. I won't mention the beek out front :wtf
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I'll continue to pound miles on my KTM Adventure, thanks.
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Bland, bland, bland and no clear market for this thing.
Soichiro Honda will be turning in his grave, with some of these recent Honda appliances.
This garbage from a company that used to have such strong purpose of engineering excellence, performance focus, quality and world beating dominance.
I'm sure it will go the way of the DN-01 and others of this ilk.
Soichiro Honda will be turning in his grave, with some of these recent Honda appliances.
This garbage from a company that used to have such strong purpose of engineering excellence, performance focus, quality and world beating dominance.
I'm sure it will go the way of the DN-01 and others of this ilk.
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I kind of like the weirdness of the DN-01, especially since I'm a closet fan of CVTs (because of their engineering mostly)
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The DN-01 maybe weird to some but to the engineer its an exciting experimentI kind of like the weirdness of the DN-01, especially since I'm a closet fan of CVTs (because of their engineering mostly)
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in theory (LL = HS) namely does Long and Low = High and Short... if that rings
true then you're open to designing a race bike that is long and low like F1 and it
will turn just as quick as a high and short bike... just think of the possibilities...
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I HATE CVTs on any vehicles meant for fun. Technically clever, efficient, etc...but boring as crap.I kind of like the weirdness of the DN-01, especially since I'm a closet fan of CVTs (because of their engineering mostly)
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