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hi everyone,
i purchased/installed a 57mm termi exhaust on my 2005 999r from section8 bike dealer and ended up w/few problems. they chose to post of this on speedzilla and then e-mailed me of it.
i feel i just got invited to the jerry springer show. i see from all of the responses that everybody has an opinion as to what is right and what is wrong. since i'm the guy w/the 999r and the burned carbon fairing panel, let me throw my 2 cents in.
1)i have been a customer of section8 for quite some time now and have spend quite a few bucks w/them. i drove from an another state to their shop to do this because of their excellent reputation and their pricing. i still have item on order w/them.
2)the bike had about 250 miles on it and was as new.
3)i was told that if it's installed by a dealer then it's warranted. i was also told that there will be a special insulation installed to prevent any heat damage to the bike and that this is something that they include as an extra which does not come w/57mm kit.
facts being:
1)after one short ride i found that the exhaust on the right side was rubbing against the swing arm.
2)a burn through mark started on the left panel which stretches about 10 in. w/one mark clearly showing and getting bigger. one can see the carbon in the damaged area.
after taking the panel off i found:
1)one of the vent pipes that comes down @ the front pipe burned right through.
2)panel was making a direct contact w/exhaust. there was zero clearence. it was rubbing against it. this piece of exhaust is a solid pipe comming down from the front head. there is almost no movement to it as opposed to the pieces by the swing arm which are pieced together and held by springs.
i immediately notified section8 of these problems. i was told that they had a big weekend a head of them and they would get back to me on tuesday. i got an e-mail on thursday from them w/link to speedzilla.
in the mean time i tried this to remedy the problem:
1)i covered half of the exposed pipe to panel w/high heat insulation blanket.
2)i cut four 4in. pieces of high temp. "blue max" spark plug wire and placed it N/S between the insulation on the pipe and the insulation on the fairing. this simple solution seemed to fix the burn-through problem. panel can now be touched w/out your hand getting burnt. it would be almost impossible to safely mount the panel w/out some sort of spacing due to the fact that the pipe is already next to the engine sump and can't be moved any further. anyone who has an experience w/this set up will testify to it.
so, after spending 30 big ones on the bike and having only about 250 miles on it and having a "factory exhaust" mounted by a "ducati" dealer am i really the bad guy in asking for a new panel? if this was your bike would you just bondo over the carbon or put a section8 sticker over it and hope the next possible owner will not notice or mined it or would you do it right and put a new fairing on it? especially if it is "warranted" as promised.
if you have one of these beautifull bikes and are thinking about the 57mm termi please be carefull. your input is appreciated.
thanks,
mr z.
i purchased/installed a 57mm termi exhaust on my 2005 999r from section8 bike dealer and ended up w/few problems. they chose to post of this on speedzilla and then e-mailed me of it.
i feel i just got invited to the jerry springer show. i see from all of the responses that everybody has an opinion as to what is right and what is wrong. since i'm the guy w/the 999r and the burned carbon fairing panel, let me throw my 2 cents in.
1)i have been a customer of section8 for quite some time now and have spend quite a few bucks w/them. i drove from an another state to their shop to do this because of their excellent reputation and their pricing. i still have item on order w/them.
2)the bike had about 250 miles on it and was as new.
3)i was told that if it's installed by a dealer then it's warranted. i was also told that there will be a special insulation installed to prevent any heat damage to the bike and that this is something that they include as an extra which does not come w/57mm kit.
facts being:
1)after one short ride i found that the exhaust on the right side was rubbing against the swing arm.
2)a burn through mark started on the left panel which stretches about 10 in. w/one mark clearly showing and getting bigger. one can see the carbon in the damaged area.
after taking the panel off i found:
1)one of the vent pipes that comes down @ the front pipe burned right through.
2)panel was making a direct contact w/exhaust. there was zero clearence. it was rubbing against it. this piece of exhaust is a solid pipe comming down from the front head. there is almost no movement to it as opposed to the pieces by the swing arm which are pieced together and held by springs.
i immediately notified section8 of these problems. i was told that they had a big weekend a head of them and they would get back to me on tuesday. i got an e-mail on thursday from them w/link to speedzilla.
in the mean time i tried this to remedy the problem:
1)i covered half of the exposed pipe to panel w/high heat insulation blanket.
2)i cut four 4in. pieces of high temp. "blue max" spark plug wire and placed it N/S between the insulation on the pipe and the insulation on the fairing. this simple solution seemed to fix the burn-through problem. panel can now be touched w/out your hand getting burnt. it would be almost impossible to safely mount the panel w/out some sort of spacing due to the fact that the pipe is already next to the engine sump and can't be moved any further. anyone who has an experience w/this set up will testify to it.
so, after spending 30 big ones on the bike and having only about 250 miles on it and having a "factory exhaust" mounted by a "ducati" dealer am i really the bad guy in asking for a new panel? if this was your bike would you just bondo over the carbon or put a section8 sticker over it and hope the next possible owner will not notice or mined it or would you do it right and put a new fairing on it? especially if it is "warranted" as promised.
if you have one of these beautifull bikes and are thinking about the 57mm termi please be carefull. your input is appreciated.
thanks,
mr z.
