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Ok i bought a 2000 Ducati 996 back on Jan. 3rd. i have a reciept unfortunately i paid cash for it, well it was a theft bike so i know it has a rebuild title, but they told me they lost the title. They sell a lot of bikes on ebay Onebadchaser and have 96 positive score 100%, well unfortunately i still dont have the title and about 2 weeks ago she called me and told me it was being mailed the next day and blah blah, well i still dont have it and i emailed them on sunday and no response, i called them today and no answer, im not sure if theyre gone or if theyre ignoring me good thing is there only like 4 hours away but what are my options here im getting sick of the run around.
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Re: Help what to do may have been ripped off......... (00996Duke)

Why on earth would you buy a bike and not IMMEDIATELY take possession of the title ? I think you might also be in legal trouble if the bike is "hot". Some of those ebay scammers are notorious for buying-selling low dollar items to build up their rating, then scamming, getting out, and starting over with a new account. Sorry to say it, but you are probably screwed (dzus-ed).
 
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Re: Help what to do may have been ripped off......... (00996Duke)

I would call the States Attorney in the state that they are located and see what they have to say. I'm assuming that you paid them when you picked up the bike, thereby eliminating the chance of Mail Fraud.
 
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Re: Help what to do may have been ripped off......... (Reckless_Kelly)

Call the cops, tell them what happened, give them the VIN number, find out if the bike is stolen.

If it's not stolen, but you can't get the title from the seller, you can do following:

Have a friend in Virginia "buy it" from you. In Virginia you dont need the old title to get the new one, you just apply for it, i dont think they need a reason for why you dont have one already. If they do, your friend can explain them the situation. They'll issue him the new one. Then he "sells" the bike to you.

If you do this, make sure you keep some kind of document from cops, so if it's ever reported stolen in the future, you can show them that you checked into it when you bought it.

And indeed, parting with your cash without getting the title in hand ... is not smart.



Modified by jbraslins at 2:52 PM 3/9/2005
 
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Track bike? Just kidding. I wouldn't want to be the victim of bike theft, so do the right thing man and report it.
 
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I just registered my bike, the latest of several, in Va and they absolutely would not give me a title without the previous title, even though there was no lien and I had a bill of sale. Also another guy tried to register a bike he got from his brother without a title and had the same result, no old title, no new title.
 
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Re: (Stick in Va)

Wow. Wonder if the law/procedure was changed recently.

Cause my father-in-law got the brand spanking new title witout having previous title for his bike in 2002.
 
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Don't mean to jack a thread here but it's somewhat relevant.
I am in the process of trading my RC51 for a 748 track bike. The problem is that there is no paperwork for the bike as it was built from parts from various bikes, you know a frame from here, a motor from there and so on. I'm not worried about the parts being hot because I know the guy I'm dealing with well. My question is, if I ever get pulled over with the bike on a trailer and the cop(s) wants to see papers for the bike...what do I say?
Can they confiscate the bike?
 
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Every state has a special set of policies regarding custom built vehicle titles.

Basicaly, there's special forms you have to file and notorize explaining what parts you used (i think main ones they are interested in are engine, transmission and frame). They also require a special inspector to come out and look over the vehicle.

You can obtain information with exact requiremnts on your states DMV website.

If you use any VIN carrying parts from other vehicles (frame, engine, etc) .. I am pretty sure you need either the previous title or some kind of document from a person/business who sold you that part certifying such sale.

Can they confiscate your bike?

Not unless they have some sort of proof that this bike or VIN carrying parts of this bike were stolen and court order to confiscate it. Worst case scenario they can prolly impound it for limited amount of time. But basically you're innocent until prooven guilty.

But as you said, if you trust the person who sold you the parts, you got nothing to worry about. If any of the parts you used have VIN numbers on them, or have VIN numbers removed, you need to get some paperwork from the seller.

Also, i would not ride the bike on the street untill you meet your states requirements, obtain a custom VIN number, title and register the motorcycle.




Modified by jbraslins at 8:21 PM 3/9/2005
 
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Thanks j,
No worries about street riding as this will be a track only bike. I was just wondering about what the PoPo can or can not do.

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hey -- i am not defending them but they are extreeeeemly slow with titles. i got mine after 4 weeks. they used to be duckgirlsps on ebay and then got shady. i will not do business with them again. to make a long story short they did the same thing to me said"we lost the title" i was there in person called the cops and had an NCIC check ran imediately. it came back clean. the funny part was they told me the bike had a salvage title but when the title came back is was clean and not rebuilt. the cops down there were cool about it (the spot inspection but i have to admit i was very nervous giving them $4k eeven after the inspection. also she is extremely hard to pin down on the phone and give up the email she never checks it
they buy up alot of parts and reassemble mangled bikes. i would go throught your bike about five times and figure out what is original and what was replaced
chris shoot me im with your phone and i will discuss the proceedure with you reguarding your problem with them
again to you haters i am NOT defending there actions they just came good after a bunch of b.s. but they do have a justified bad rapp
 
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Re: Help what to do may have been ripped off......... (00996Duke)

Hunt her down like the cheating scurvy dog that she is, wreak vengeance on her (the larger the caliber the better), and live on the lam the rest of your life - drinking rainwater out of rusty buckets and eating live, wriggly bugs.

Or call the cops.

Your choice.
 
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Well after all the BS i got the title overnighted to me yesterday, the bike is in good shape overall and all seems well. thanks guys
Chris
 
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