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Harbor Freight China special victorious. :(
Well that's hitting the nail on the head.

Most here appreciate quality over price. However many think one can get get something much cheaper and still have the same quality. Sadly, not true.

Smarten up, Folks, before everything we buy is made in China - 'cause you'll just have to buy it twice.
 

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This is true, Kurt does blow seals!:D

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Harbor Freight China special victorious. :(
Here's another bit of info that everyone might want to listen to:
I was talking to a guy the other day who knows a lady who has a company that makes solar panels. She said that China has gotten into the solar biz bigtime and in about a year and a half the price of panels will drop to half what they are now. This is really gonna hurt U.S. producers if they produce here. I'd guess that the Chinese companies are subsized more than ours too. This globalization thing is killing us in so many ways. There's a giant sucking sound eminating from developing countries and the straw reaches here. There's little we can do about it. We're screwed. Harbor Freight may sell crap but that doesn't mean everything China produces is crap. It's getting tougher and tougher to stay in business in America and to do it in a responsible manner. We could lessen environmental regulations and beurocracy but somehow I don't think that's the problem. There are stronger fundamentals at work here.

I think Rocky is in the solar biz. What say you coRky:D ?
 

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Here's another bit of info that everyone might want to listen to:
I was talking to a guy the other day who knows a lady who has a company that makes solar panels. She said that China has gotten into the solar biz bigtime and in about a year and a half the price of panels will drop to half what they are now. This is really gonna hurt U.S. producers if they produce here. I'd guess that the Chinese companies are subsized more than ours too. This globalization thing is killing us in so many ways. There's a giant sucking sound eminating from developing countries and the straw reaches here. There's little we can do about it. We're screwed. Harbor Freight may sell crap but that doesn't mean everything China produces is crap. It's getting tougher and tougher to stay in business in America and to do it in a responsible manner. We could lessen environmental regulations and beurocracy but somehow I don't think that's the problem. There are stronger fundamentals at work here.

I think Rocky is in the solar biz. What say you coRky:D ?
the parts can just be made there with the same materials and programs they just have to pay 30 cents a hour compared to X here.

this is not just stands, it is everything:banghead
 

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the parts can just be made there with the same materials and programs they just have to pay 30 cents a hour compared to X here.

this is not just stands, it is everything:banghead
You should read my posts here:

http://www.speedzilla.com/forums/war-room/62403-american-socialist-party-member-names-released.html

I don't expect you to agree with the socialis stuff but the globalization angle is what you're talking about. If anyone has an idea how to maintain our economic dominance I'm open to hearing it but I'm affraid we're in for long term change, not just temporary recession. It was bound to happen sooner or later with all that cheap labor and needy people in the world. It's time we start thinking about sustainability instead of just growth. I don't think we're going to hell in a handbasket though. We're talking about slow adjustment to new world order here, not the collapse of a nation state...unless we get bogged down in endless wars and don't deal with climbing health costs. If we make mistakes then the outcome could indeed be much worse.
 
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