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· chimp on my shoulder
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Waste of a good ride. He was done the second he threw it all away against Spies. :banghead
certainly seems like spies just destroyed his drive. Like he was a broken man all this year. I even seem to recall at some point he told the press that he was afraid and just didn't have the right mindset anymore. but the last couple of races he seemed like the Haga of old. I'd like to see him get his championship before hangin it up just because I like the guy. if for nothing else his interviews. but he is one fast little bastard.
 

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Haga didn't get it done on an I4... nor the V2... will the V4 fit his riding style???
 

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Title contenders, least to most likely.

Suzuki will have one rider and little development. Basically no chance at the title.

Honda may not even have bikes, sponsorship is still up in the air. Rea is good but not championship material, IMO.

Ducati doesn't even have a factory team, although has good riders on private bikes. Twin is probably outclassed at the moment, but Checa could win several races and if he gets really lucky could factor in the championship, but I doubt it.

Kawasaki is totally new with good riders, but will face a learning curve and will not be competitive at the start at all tracks.

BMW has good riders and a good bike, but might be shooting itself in the foot by trying to save money. Hard to think of a team as a championship favorite that has never won a race, but BMW may have a breakout year. hard to tell.

Yamaha has great riders and a strong winning bike. Melandri may take to the Yamaha like a duck to water or like a Marco to a...Desmosedici. Again hard to say.

Aprilia has two of the best, most-experienced riders on a strong machine that looked unbeatable several times this year. Gear cam drive or not, the Priller is going to be fast. Given another year to sort it out, expect many poles and wins.

Final points assuming no injuries.
1. Biaggi
2. Haga
3. Melandri
4. Haslam
5. Vermuelen
6. Sykes
7. Checa
8. Rea
9. Corser
10. Camier
 

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...BMW has good riders and a good bike, but might be shooting itself in the foot by trying to save money. Hard to think of a team as a championship favorite that has never won a race, but BMW may have a breakout year. hard to tell...
Where'd you read this?

I haven't seen this anywhere but imo it doesn't ring true. I mean work it out, BMW invested millions in developing the best superbike of the year, more millions in developing a superbike program, acquired Haslam who no doubt came at a premium when compared to Xaus given Haslam's status as runner-up this season and your saying dropping Tardozzi is motivated by money... Tardozzi's salary wouldn't make a dent in BMW's coffers.

The split, if that is what you are referring to, was due according to all reports I've read to a difference in mangement style, not surprising given Tardozzi's fiery little man syndrome temper and the more calculating style of the Germans. but I could be wrong on this if you could provide more info. Thx.
 

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certainly seems like spies just destroyed his drive. Like he was a broken man all this year. I even seem to recall at some point he told the press that he was afraid and just didn't have the right mindset anymore. but the last couple of races he seemed like the Haga of old. I'd like to see him get his championship before hangin it up just because I like the guy. if for nothing else his interviews. but he is one fast little bastard.
I think this is where someone like Tardozzi made a difference. Tardozzi, having been a near WSC title winner himself knows what the mindset of the riders is and how to motivate them. Ducati really lost something when he left. Too bad it didn't work out at BMW imo it's a step backward for BMW.

I'm hoping Haga regains his form next season, between him and Biaggi, two of my favourite riders, it would be nice to have the two of them on one of the best bikes on the grid.
 

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Final points assuming no injuries.
1. Biaggi
2. Haga
3. Melandri
4. Haslam
5. Vermuelen
6. Sykes
7. Checa
8. Rea
9. Corser
10. Camier
Biaggi is talking about retirement not defending his title...
 

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Where'd you read this?

I haven't seen this anywhere but imo it doesn't ring true. I mean work it out, BMW invested millions in developing the best superbike of the year, more millions in developing a superbike program, acquired Haslam who no doubt came at a premium when compared to Xaus given Haslam's status as runner-up this season and your saying dropping Tardozzi is motivated by money... Tardozzi's salary wouldn't make a dent in BMW's coffers.

The split, if that is what you are referring to, was due according to all reports I've read to a difference in mangement style, not surprising given Tardozzi's fiery little man syndrome temper and the more calculating style of the Germans. but I could be wrong on this if you could provide more info. Thx.
What I read was that Tardozzi clashed with BMW management because of his free-spending ways. He knows what it takes (and costs) to win championships, whether BMW does remains to be seen.
 

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Let's see what kind of support Haga gets on this satellite team. This may be just what he needs to invigorate himself for a last attempt. He was impressive last weekend in race 2 dicing it up with Fab, so maybe there is still some fight left in him...
 

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I think Rea is probably the fastest guy in WSB. I also believe that Sykes will be a contender if the Kwak proves competitive, as he really seems to have his confidence back. Checa will be a contender as I don't believe the Ducati is done yet and Corser can't be counted out either. To me, Haga looks to be the broken man while Fabrizzio still looks hungry.

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Suzuki will have one rider and little development. Basically no chance at the title.

Honda may not even have bikes, sponsorship is still up in the air. Rea is good but not championship material, IMO.

Ducati doesn't even have a factory team, although has good riders on private bikes. Twin is probably outclassed at the moment, but Checa could win several races and if he gets really lucky could factor in the championship, but I doubt it.

Kawasaki is totally new with good riders, but will face a learning curve and will not be competitive at the start at all tracks.

BMW has good riders and a good bike, but might be shooting itself in the foot by trying to save money. Hard to think of a team as a championship favorite that has never won a race, but BMW may have a breakout year. hard to tell.

Yamaha has great riders and a strong winning bike. Melandri may take to the Yamaha like a duck to water or like a Marco to a...Desmosedici. Again hard to say.

Aprilia has two of the best, most-experienced riders on a strong machine that looked unbeatable several times this year. Gear cam drive or not, the Priller is going to be fast. Given another year to sort it out, expect many poles and wins.

Final points assuming no injuries.
1. Biaggi
2. Haga
3. Melandri
4. Haslam
5. Vermuelen
6. Sykes
7. Checa
8. Rea
9. Corser
10. Camier
 

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Was watching an old 1998 WSBK review video and it was Haga tearing it up, fighting with Corsa and Fogarty and several others...shame that he's lost the drive.
 
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