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I know this is still in its infant stages but I think the future will yield these. I think Europe, Japan, China, etc. will be the first to go mainstream with them, because of population and fuel prices. I am sure they will get faster and more appealing to the public with time.(For transportation purposes, not necessarily for 'fun factor') I think it may attract people to 'swing a leg over' that normally wouldn't.(Especially if fuel continues to rise out of control pricewise)

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MSNBC.com
Fuel cell motorbike unveiled, but too quiet?
Designers might add vroom for safety, 'primitive' sound

Reuters
Updated: 11:49 a.m. ET March 16, 2005


LONDON - Environmentally minded British motorcycle engineers have produced a zero-emission bike that ticks all the right boxes except one — it’s too quiet.

So quiet in fact that designers are looking to introduce artificial vroom to keep potential customers happy.

Powered by a high pressure hydrogen fuel cell, the Emissions Neutral Vehicle produces the equivalent noise of a personal computer fan belt.

Not only is that distinctly wimpy in the eyes of many bikers, it could also be dangerous.

50-mph machine and no gears
Intelligent Energy, the company that built the prototype, is looking at ways to produce an artificial engine noise that will alert people to its presence, making sure the machine is not silent and deadly.

“We will consider that,” said Nick Talbot, the project leader hired to design the motorbike.

The vehicle, which has no gears, can reach speeds of 50 miles per hour.

Motorcycle enthusiasts have welcomed the green innovation but say some bikers like the roar of an engine and the thrill of going fast.

“It fits the definition of a motorcycle, but not as we know it,” said Jeff Stone, a spokesman for the British Motorcycle Federation. “The motorcycle is a primitive thing and it appeals to the inner person. The excitement and exhilaration of a bike is why people ride them.”

Range of 100 miles
Stone, however, believes that the “soft and cuddly” green bike could be useful in city traffic.

The bike’s briefcase-sized fuel cell needs to be topped up every 100 miles and so far there is only one station in Britain that supplies hydrogen.

But its makers believe that will change.

“The whole point of the project is to say the technology is here, it works, so now put the infrastructure up,” said Talbot.

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Here is the link with a picture of the thing:http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7206396/
 
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"Loud Pipes Save Lives" to quote someones sig!

Great idea for the inner town comuters but I don't think the average biker who loves the smell of gas and boom of pipes would get one.
 
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Re: Future Motorcycle (CaliDuc)

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Powered by a high pressure hydrogen fuel cell, the Emissions Neutral Vehicle produces the equivalent noise of a personal computer fan belt.
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"fan belt" reminds me of a deadbeat friend whose car got repo'd, kept telling everybody he was waiting on parts- a "starter belt" to be exact. We joked he'd be waiting a while sicne no such belt existed

back to the bike at hand- Hydrogen, hem, haw, uhhh... welll, it's a pipe dream, at least for now. Ever see somebody actually fill up a Hydrogen fueled car? Extremely time consuming, complicated, not to mention dangerous. There is just no way the average mouth breathing consumer can complete this task. There will be a rash of explosions and whatnot, at the least. Would like to see the bugs worked out though, as it is a fascinating field
 
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I'm 100% for them.I was at GMD computrack the other day and,while waiting I listened to the nearby aluminum fabrication company engineer describe with blueprints and a FRAME for one of these.He wanted GMD to "stress" the frame for distortion characteristics or something. They'll go 60mph for 60 miles.I work 23 miles away and,it seems the global oil supply won't last more than another 40 years
He was readying a mock up for mass production.He said it will be the next big investment. a company called Vactronics,or Vacutronics or something.
 
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ducxl »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I work 23 miles away and,it seems the global oil supply won't last more than another 40 years
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it's nice to come across somebody who acknowledges that. It seems they aren't teaching that in basic science class anymore, or never used to, or something, cause NOBODY at my work believes it, they think oil is self renewing. Yup, they ALL love to have a good laugh at my expense. We'll see who's laughing last
 
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Monstaman »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">"Loud Pipes Save Lives" to quote someones sig!

Great idea for the inner town comuters but I don't think the average biker who loves the smell of gas and boom of pipes would get one. </TD></TR></TABLE>

So very very true. But from a realistic idea that oil will not be here forever, I think it is a great start. Sure this particular technology may not be the one that catches on. Maybe it will be the hybrid type stuff you see in Hondas, Toyotas, etc. At least they are getting the ball rolling in the right direction.

I am sure we will all still have our "Performance motorcycles" in the future that we all enjoy now..................but it is just going to cost alot more to ride them when the current gas market stays above $100 a barrel. If I rode a cruiser, or just used a m/c for commutes, then I would consider one. As long as it went fast enough so I didnt end up like a bug on the windscreen of some soccer moms car.


At least the industry is starting in a realistic direction. It may not be anything we would buy now, but what it will evolve into may be another story.
 
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My mountain bike is ecofriendly except for the engine room which does let out a bit of methane emission


I reckon anything that can prolong the life of oil on the planet has to be a great thing
 
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CaliD. Great post. Something interesting to think about. Thanks for posting it.
I personally think that engine noise does not help much to prevent us from bouncing on cars or trucks. Rellying on noise to protect you !, that doesn`t seem too relliable to me. My bike is very quiet, and I have learned to avoid getting in trouble by always thinking that others can`t hear me or see me at all.
Actually, I don`t like noisy bikes or cars. I guess this new tecnology will be great for me. No noise, GREAT !
Years ago, when here in the island bikes were rare, wow, riding was like suicide almost. Now we have bikes all over, all the time. Sportbikes, cruisers, scooters, you name it, and car drivers have learned ( I guess ), to respect bikes and to give them their space on the road.
Here bikes are a necesity now due to the jams, if you want to get somewhere fast, forget the car, you need a bike.
Here, a Festival or Concert has to allow bikers their space. There are many bikers. Last outdoors concert I went last Sunday had about 400-500 bikes, maybe more.
BIKES ARE HERE TO STAY.
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This is a pretty well know issue, have them search for "peak oil" on google. That should scare them pretty good.

I'm really going to miss the sound of controlled explosions muffled by steel and fiberglass in the morning.
 
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