Re: DIXO/3a wholesale CF feedback (Ian748L)
Ian, I do manufacture all the parts we make in 3 formats we do fiberglass, 50/50 both Fiberglass and carbon and full carbon, We have just got some injection moulded plastic kits for the 749/999, So I can supply cheaper fiberglass full race kits for all the models, The problem currently to be very honest with you is the cost of man hours, Our factory in England for example, It can take 1 guy a week to perfect a mold for a new item, so you have 1 weeks labor, Then after the mold is made we pull 3 testers from the mold which are all GRP Fiberglass, this ensure the interior quality of the mold is good and has not pitting etc here we have another 3 to 4 days at least plus the cost of materials, finally when the mold passes quality control we will throw the first full Carbon item which is then tested for fit finish etc.
Now all this in mind and going back to the Dixo $89.00 rear hugger, just for a rear hugger for a 996 the mold will cost us upwards of labor and materials will net me in at 1500.00 British pounds currently 1.913 todays exchange rate.
Now you have to figure to make that part properly takes 1 man nearly a day in start to finish time and those pesky Brits are not cheap per hour let me tell ya, so hence why Carbon is not cheap.
At the start of this year I have been activley seeking and talking with many companies overseas where labor is considerably cheaper, HOWEVER there in lies the problem CHEAP LABOR CRAP PRODUCT, I have samples here from many manufacturers and I have yet to open the box and be even marginally impressed, Believe I understand this product is expensive but currently only the Europeans are making a quality product that is worth vendors like myself, or Motowheels, Yoyodyne etc selling to you guys.
Buy a machine I hear you guys say, well put it this way a Dyno is alot of money but you make your money back in no time an autoclave !!! Well if I where in the Aerospace industry maybe viable but not for the bike industry, sorry.
I have not given up my search and I am currently working very closley with several comapnies based all over the world and will eventually come up with a solution that has consistency and fits the bikes properly, and when I do you guys will all know about it but until then Ian unless we can all petition the the European Union to drop thier labor rates we are paying top $ for the stuff.
I can get any of you cheap carbon, But I will tell you all now It's Crap ............ But if any of you want it, It is available just please don't give me the chance to tell you I told you so,
Hope this helps all.
Ryan @ Casoli