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Discount Motorcycle Tire Weirdness

This is weird. I've bought from these guys before and been happy. But check out the weirdness being described on their (http://www.dmtaonline.com/) website regarding some internal dispute!!?
 
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Re: Discount Motorcycle Tire Weirdness (bwhip)

I guess I'm out a pair of Michelin Pilot Powers I ordered from them on Dec 20th. I sent them a money order, why can't they refund the money? Sounds like BS to me. This is the second time in 6 months I've been had by an internet sales deal.
 
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It sucks, but I don't think the remaining owners are trying to jack you around. It sounds like a partnership dispute where one of the partners decided to seize the upper hand in negotiations through self-help. I've had it happen to a client before - owned a restaurant, put nearly all of the money into it in partnership with an "idea guy", only to come to work one day to find a COMPLETELY EMPTY leased space (and we are talking a 75+ table formal dinner kind of place). He never did get the stuff back and it broke him.

One thing you could do is contact the DAs office via the provided link and let them know you have a pending order - they may take the view that your order is binding on the partner who took the stuff and put the arm on him to send you your order.

Good luck.
 
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That does suck! It was an excellent company to do business with. I ordered a set of Sportec M1s from them on the 15th, and they were dropped on my front porch the 20th (over a weekend). The price was excellent. I hope they can sort things out.
 
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I have had good service from those people. i hope they can recover quickly.
 
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I'm feeling really good about telling everyone here about the deal I got on my Pilot Powers from them and recommending them to all.
I have two balls and neither one of them are crystal, but I still feel bad. Sorry, hope they get it straightened out in a hurry for all involved.
 
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I contacted the DAs office and at this time they know nothing about the case. No one from DMTAonline has contacted them yet and the officer who took the report from the Arvada PD is on his days off till Thursday. It sounds like they are treating it like a civil case so therefore the PD took an information report only and I don't know how aggressive the DAs civil division is. However, they did say they will be looking into the matter later this week, taking my name and number for future contact (I hope). I find it hard to understand calling it a civil dispute when there are paid orders in house and someone comes in and wipes the place out, taking with them your check, money order, etc.
Sounds to me like a form of theft. I just hope I don't get the kiss off from the authorities like the last time this happened to me.
 
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">As of this time, the Arvada police have told us they know the location of the merchandise but are not pursuing any criminal actions against the perpetrators. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Weird.
 
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Re: Discount Motorcycle Tire Weirdness (bwhip)

just one word
DAM !
 
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John

The DA's office might not get involved in the issue between the guys who own the business, but it might get involved in your issue. The difference is that, if the guy who took the stuff really is a "partner" in a "partnership" (as opposed to a "member" in a Limited Liability Company or a "shareholder" in a corporation), he may, under the law controlling the partnership agreement (or Colorado law if no formal partnership exists), have as much right to possess the assets of the partnership as any other partner and therefor may not have violated any criminal law with respect to his other partners. In your case, however, you have given money to the "partnership" and "it" owes you a set of tires. Depending on Colorado law (I'm not familiar with it), the fact that the partnership took your money but didn't send you anything in return may constitute a criminal offense. It almost assuredly constitutes a civil offense - but the cost of suing would probably greatly outweigh any recovery you might get.

Having said all that, you might try contacting the Colorado Attorney General's consumer protection office. State consumer protection people are great and, best of all, FREE!! It's altogether possible that the warring factions will come together long enough to send you your tires just to get the AG's office off of their back.

Best of luck.
 
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It's called repossessing property. Since that guy didn't break into the shop, he hasn't done any crime. Therefore, if he broke the contract or anything related to it, its a civil issue, which has to deal in court. Therefore, you have to take your claim to small claim court.

The police won't do anything until there is a hearing and a court order to get the equipment, and the only thing the police will do is to stand by to preserve peace and order.
 
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Not to make too fine a point, but the mere fact that the taker did not have to make forceable entry in order to remove the property does not make it a civil matter. I agree this smells like a partnership/creditor dispute and will probably take months or years to be resolved, by which time any good will accruing to the company will be long dissipated, but we will have to wait and see.
 
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Re: Discount Motorcycle Tire Weirdness (john S.)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by john S. »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I guess I'm out a pair of Michelin Pilot Powers I ordered from them on Dec 20th. I sent them a money order, why can't they refund the money? Sounds like BS to me. This is the second time in 6 months I've been had by an internet sales deal.
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If it was a USPS money order and you have your receipt, contact your postmaster. From what I understand they are pretty good at following up on fraud involving a MO. Reading their website, and being in law enforcement for 10+ years, I can tell you that (like mentioned above) the breaking and entering will be treated like a civil case between business partners, which essentially it is. However, the "business" kept your money order without shipping out the goods, so the USPS should get involved on your behalf.
 
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