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hi,

so i have a honda 1000rr right now, but i am thinking of going to a 749. there are alot of reasons i want to do this, the biggest part is i believe it is both better handling and therfore easier to ride.

but back to my question. has there been any problems with them. reliability issues or anything else?

thanks,
benny
 
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Re: 749s (motobum)

Benny, to answer your question I would like to know a couple of things:
1. How much performance do you need out of a bike? If you're a hardcore racer who can push a bike to it's limits you will be happier with the stability of the 749s in the corners but probably will long for more power in the straights.
2. What about the Honda don't you like? From what I have heard it is among the most stable and forgiving of the japanese litre bikes.
3. Are you willing to pay double the cost of your CBR 1000 for the gains in handling.

Don't get me wrong. I just purchased a 749s this spring (having previously owned a VFR 800). My prime motivators were 1) Looks, 2) The Duc is still a rare and noticed bike around here, and 3) Improved stability and a much better suspension. But it cost me 3x what my VFR was worth to make the change (ouch!). For me it was the need to satisfy a long-time dream.

As for reliability, I don't think there are any serious issues. There have been a few comments on this site about cracks developing in the aluminum sub-frames of the mono versions of the 749 and 999. I haven't heard of any local riders having problems. As well I have seen some postings regarding the need to bleed air out of the clutch, but again this may not be common.

I think the real question is how much of a handling improvement are you going to experience. Is it enough to justify paying double. If you are going to race the bike you will probably be disappointed with the top end of the 749 vs your Honda. Just my
 
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Re: 749s (arty)

Sounds familiar! I sold my 2003 Honda CBR954RR (which I loved) and bought a 2003 749S (which I really, really love). The Honda was a great bike, very reliable, excellent handling, amazing power. But it looked pretty much like every other crotch rocket around town, and really had more power than I needed, even at the track days that I enjoy. I wanted a bike that would make me a better rider, requiring me to use more gears around the track, I wanted something with style that was unique, and with the Termignoni exhaust the sound is absolutely thrilling. With the amazing handling of this bike, I'm actually doing faster lap times now than I did on my Honda (some of that has to do with my improvement as a rider).

After a year of ownership, I still get a thrill every time I see the bike, and the joy of riding it never ceases to amaze me. I couldn't say that after a year of owning the Honda.

Have I had a few mechanical "issues" with the bike? Yep, all relatively minor, fortunately. I absolutely love my bike, and am very happy that I made the switch. Check it out: http://home.rmci.net/bkw/Check...e.htm
 
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Re: 749s (arty)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by arty »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Benny, to answer your question I would like to know a couple of things:
1. How much performance do you need out of a bike? If you're a hardcore racer who can push a bike to it's limits you will be happier with the stability of the 749s in the corners but probably will long for more power in the straights.
2. What about the Honda don't you like? From what I have heard it is among the most stable and forgiving of the japanese litre bikes.
3. Are you willing to pay double the cost of your CBR 1000 for the gains in handling.

Don't get me wrong. I just purchased a 749s this spring (having previously owned a VFR 800). My prime motivators were 1) Looks, 2) The Duc is still a rare and noticed bike around here, and 3) Improved stability and a much better suspension. But it cost me 3x what my VFR was worth to make the change (ouch!). For me it was the need to satisfy a long-time dream.

As for reliability, I don't think there are any serious issues. There have been a few comments on this site about cracks developing in the aluminum sub-frames of the mono versions of the 749 and 999. I haven't heard of any local riders having problems. As well I have seen some postings regarding the need to bleed air out of the clutch, but again this may not be common.

I think the real question is how much of a handling improvement are you going to experience. Is it enough to justify paying double. If you are going to race the bike you will probably be disappointed with the top end of the 749 vs your Honda. Just my
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the problem started when i was at the track and before my day was over i had totally smoked my tires. so sitting around i decided to take my fathers 999 out on the track. it was truelly incredible... the bike was so much more stable and i could move on the bike without upsetting the handling. take into account this is a very bumpy track, so it exposes alot of poor handle trates in bikes.

my bike felt like a boat... and there is only one track here in colorado were a liter bike really has an advantage and that track has a 1/4 mile front straight. so power is really only good for padding a lap time.

but i felt so much more confident and faster on that 999. i could easily spend 20 laps on it and be running faster lap times then i did on my RR.

as far as all the looks and what no go. i could really careless. i am a track slunt that loves going fast and i would be riding a harley if that was the most confidence inducing bike. but then agian me being italian does not help, haha
 
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Re: 749s (bwhip)

Bwhip, beautiful bike and very nicely done photos. How many miles on your 749s (it looks new).
Is your full termi exhaust stainless or titanium? I have the yellow version of the 749s. I got it this winter and only have about 60 miles on it. My first major upgrade will be the Termi system.
 
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Thanks! I bought the bike in May of 2004 and it now has almost 4,000 miles on it. It's a full Termi steel system. Sounds awesome - the only way to go with that bike in my opinion.
 
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Re: 749s (bwhip)

My friend was going to buy a RC-51. He owns 2 cbrs. a 1k and 600. He kept asking me about the Ducati. Well, we ended up in Fresno Ducati and bought a 04 999, and he just sold his cbr600rr.

Well, now, he doesn't ride the cbr1000rr at all. So, he is going to be selling the cbr1k and get another 999 lol.
 
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Re: 749s (HeckLer1979)

Heckler, did your friend win a lottery?
 
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Re: 749s (motobum)

Yeah, Bwhip those are badass pictures. I booked marked your page so that I can go back everyday to look at those pics.
 
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How much did you buy your 999 at WILSON MOTORCYLE (Im assuming thats where you got it) Thanks.
 
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Re: 749s (Venomized)

this is pretty much fact from any reality....the CBR1000 is an icrdible bike
but not an as is bike, in regards to track. unless you need springs and a true suspension set up, you have a real star among bike. however vanilla that is. But like my RC51 days and any other bike, almost- (well all ok) there is work to be done for YOU the rider and ofter THE bike no matter what. I killed my RC51 and almost me in Southern Ohio twisties when a 70 yr man and a Buick and I butted heads
My tricked RC fell to the wayside in my recovery and 7 weeks later lost 20 hp but bought my girl the 998. Visually in love. Torque still about where it was maybe
but hot, sexy, thinner
, lighter, better stock (wheels / calipers, lines, ) i certianly don't miss the RC digital guage AT ALL.
but then agian if you have seen my yammers....
i got 24 miles and the starter moter went bad / and so was the used buy....but i think there is true love here still .... =for the bike
 
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