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Panicking Romney Attempts to Lay Off Debate Moderator

DENVER—Pressed during Wednesday night’s presidential debate to provide details of his plan to lower taxes across the board while balancing the federal budget, a visibly flustered Mitt Romney reportedly sought to extricate himself from the situation by attempting to lay off moderator Jim Lehrer. “Well, uh, tax loopholes must be closed, and as you know, um, there are many underperforming programs, and, boy—Jim, we need to have a talk,” said the Republican nominee, who, after several moments of nervous chuckling informed the 78-year-old PBS NewsHour anchor that market conditions had forced him to “make adjustments to our outlook and staffing.” “Given our business model going forward, it no longer makes sense for this debate to continue. We appreciate all you’ve contributed, and let me assure you this in no way reflects on your personal performance. But we’re moving in a new direction and I’m afraid we’re going to have to let you go.” Romney then wished Lehrer “the best of luck,” waiting patiently behind his lectern until the baffled moderator filed out of the University of Denver’s Magness Arena.

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You know Romney had a good night when the morons at MSNBC are having a meltdown.



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Chris Matthews’ Epic Meltdown Over Obama Performance: ‘What Was He Doing Tonight?

MSNBC’s liberal pundits are seemingly none-too-pleased with President Obama’s debate performance.

Especially Chris Matthews, the host who infamously said that the president sent a “thrill” up his leg during the 2008 Democratic primaries.

Clearly disappointed in Obama’s performance, Matthews lamented to host Rachel Maddow: “This tonight wasn’t an MSNBC debate, was it? It just wasn’t,” he said.

“I don’t know what he was doing out there. He had his head down. He was enduring the debate rather than fighting it. Romney came out with a campaign,” continued Matthews.

Chris Matthews’ Epic Meltdown Over Obama Performance: ‘What Was He Doing Tonight?’ | Mediaite
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Romney's good in front of people and he's had tons of practice. But he was overly aggressive at times and wouldn't shut the phuck up. Obama's speech starts and stops and he missed one or two real openings. Presentation: Small edge, Romney.
On substance, who knows? You can't believe anything a politicians says.

Obama'd have to die for me not to vote for him though. Ryan and Supreme Court nominations seal the deal. Plus, as I said, I'm not voting for any Republican until they exorcise god from their agenda. And the favortism toward the wealthy. And...
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That debate was not even close, it was embarrassing for us as a country to have a leader who is that ignorant and clueless. People that think Obama is the better choice, obviously didn't hear the debate due to the fact that their heads are shoved way up their asses...

1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity, by legislating the wealth out of prosperity.
2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.
3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.
4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.
5. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them; and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work, because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that is the beginning of the end of any nation.
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Romney looks like a game show host, should be no surprise he performs well in front of a camera on stage.

He would also kick Obama's ass in a round of hosting Family Feud for sure.




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That debate was not even close, it was embarrassing for us as a country to have a leader who is that ignorant and clueless. People that think Obama is the better choice, obviously didn't hear the debate due to the fact that their heads are shoved way up their asses...

1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity, by legislating the wealth out of prosperity.
2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.
3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.
4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.
5. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them; and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work, because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that is the beginning of the end of any nation.
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I haven't even read all of your post and already you are in over your head...or maybe YOU are the one with your head up your you-know-what. Anyone who thinks the wealthy are being legislated out of prosperity needs to read this:

"Thirty years ago, when Forbes published its first Forbes 400, a net worth of $75 million would get you on the list. Today it takes $1.1 billion. In the last year alone, the cumulative net worth of the wealthiest 400 people, by Forbes’s calculation, rose by $200 billion. That compares with a 4 percent drop in median household income last year, according to the Census Bureau. One would be hard pressed to find a clearer example of how powerfully income inequality has taken root."

"Financiers, who make up a large percentage of the Forbes 400, long ago found ways to convert their compensation to capital gains, for instance. Romney, of course, did the same thing when he was running Bain Capital, a private equity firm. But even those who are not on Wall Street rely on capital gains. A large number of the Forbes 400 — “roughly 40 percent,” according to a group called United for a Fair Economy — inherited their wealth. Many others on the list — people who started companies that they’ve since left — are classified by Forbes as investors."

"Even many of the corporate executives on the Forbes 400 are likely paying a lower tax rate. Many of them get minimal cash compensation and rely on stock options for the bulk of their wealth. Or they maneuver to take their companies through a leveraged buyout, which reaps them huge potential capital gains. In 2009, according to recent Congressional testimony by Leonard E. Burman, a professor at Syracuse University, the 400 highest-income taxpayers reaped an astounding 16 percent of all capital gains."

To recap:
Wealthy people use the tax code to increse their wealth in ways that are not possible for the average citizen. Take that into account when you think about income tax rates and taxes in general. That's how Mitt got to 13.9%. They use us like a rug. And then we fight their wars. Isn't that a definition of stupidity? "Trickle Down" has been a big stick shoved up our collective you-know-what...sideways.

Can you see that stick yet, Jay?

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/25/op...-400.html?_r=1&

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That debate was not even close, it was embarrassing for us as a country to have a leader who is that ignorant and clueless. People that think Obama is the better choice, obviously didn't hear the debate due to the fact that their heads are shoved way up their asses...

1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity, by legislating the wealth out of prosperity.
2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.
3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.
4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.
5. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them; and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work, because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that is the beginning of the end of any nation.
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Ever been to a WallMart? Some of them include good examples of what's on welfare. Fat, ugly, undereducated, old, mentally and physically handicapped. THERE ARE NOT, NOR WILL THERE EVER BE, ENOUGH JOBS IN AMERICA FOR THOSE PEOPLE. Now, either we let them live in absolute poverty or homelessness or we help them out. It's a choice. You want to live in one type of country and I want to live in another type. It speaks volumes about what type of people we are and it tells the world a whole lot about Americans.

That is in no way a vote for welfare fraud or anything like it. Since you're so smart, Jay, why not tell us exactly how many people on government support are actual moochers and how many are not. I doubt you have a clue about anything let alone the one thing you are obsessed with. I'll bet you're just another Speedzilla loudmouth who comes here with his biggoted, misinformed notions that you pick up from your beer buddies and Rush Limpblob. They cycle through here all the time. Sad but it seems like bikers are full of this type of knee-jerk I've got mine, get lost attitude. You seem like an example of one of America's problems. Now, how about that Forbes 400? Wow. That's what Republican policies do for America. We can all look up at them and drool.

I'll tackle 3-5 if you wish but they're just more of the same BS.

BTW, I've proposed that we eliminate all income taxes on anyting under a living wage. Taxing work is a disincentive to work. People over a living wage can pay more, especially the Forbes 400 crowd (much, much more for them). We make up the balance with a consumption tax or something similar. What we have now is a tax code written by rich people to benefit rich people. Trickly up, baby. "Trickle down" was nothing more than a campaign slogan. The numbers prove it.

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Here's another thing to chew on for all you moocher lynchers:
I haven't had the time to look this up yet, and frankly I'm not sure I will - seems like a lot of research. But I heard a caller to the Tom Sullivan program the other day and he said the following:
If you look at world economic history and tax rates you see that whenever total average tax burden (or something like that) drops below around 50% (not sure about that number) so much free capital builds up in societies that it leads to speculative investing and economic bubbles. Bubbles always break.
Think about that for a second:
If I have so much money that I have to look for places to put it what am I going to do? I will speculate, try to make a big gain on something risky.
That could be a reason for the wild swings in our economy. Look at our tax history. Our top rate has gone from around 90% all the way down to around 30%. We need to find a middle ground and stick to it - not to keep changing the code every damn time a new admiin comes into power. Clinton's rates seemed to work dandy. Why did Bush have to lower them? And now monRey wants to lower them another 20%? Is he frigging kidding? A 20% lower top rate? And it's pretty well agreed upon that reducing loopholes will not make up the difference - Christ, he won't even tell us what the loopholes are! I smell crap. Here comes another bubble...maybe. Of course, as the Forbes list points out, the wealthy do just fine in a recession so it won't matter to them that the rest of us are screwed. Jay's either wealthy or he enjoys a stick up his misinformed azz.

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Confession:
I only watched the first twenty minutes. Sounds like Romney Mitted all over O. He must have improved from his start. I'm not surprised one bit. Mitt's good. Obama's usually not. I doubt Abe Lincoln would have sounded like a car salesman either.

I normally don't watch debates or conventions much. Too much BS and hype, so little truth. Besides, where in the job qualification for president is there anything even relating to debating? It's ridiculous. Decisions are made very slowly in the White House. It is 99% about quality of decision, not speed of delivery. The only real value debates have is to see how a person presents themselves. They have some value there. Conventions, on the other hand are 99% crap infomercial. And the delegates are obnoxious as hell.

While I'm high and feel like typing...
Think about what's happening to our politics. This year the Pubs had 27 debates! Presidents fly all around the country collecting funds. Commercials clog the media. Conventions are like the Olympics. It's out of hand.

When is The Man in the White House? What does this competition for cash and airtime do for our country? It's out of hand.

I propose this:
One six-year term per president. He doesn't campaign - we legislate that (although this whacked Supreme Court would probaby throw that out). The president works. He doesn't practice for debates (looks like Obama didn't anyway). Being re-elected doesn't conflict with his decisions or actions. We get fewer commercials. It's a win-win.

If we don't do something pretty soon the campaigning will be nonstop and it will increasingly screw up the function of our government.

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You know Romney had a good night when the morons at MSNBC are having a meltdown.

You know something...and this is the god's honest truth:
BEFORE this debate my local moderate radio host said, "you watch; if Obama isn't a clear winner the talking heads on tv will be talking up Mitt just to stimulate a horse race. It's good for ratings."
Their reactions probably originate in the office of the general manager, not necessarily solely in the minds of the talking head.
If you've seen Outfoxed you know exactly what I'm talking about. Murdoch tells his employees what to focus on, how to act, what angle to play, even what to say sometimes. It's a production intended for entertainment value. MSNBC is probably the same, BTW, but no one has made a movie about them.
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You want to live in one type of country and I want to live in another type.
Sounds like you need to move to another country then cuz if you think that mentality works anywhere, you're wrong......half of Europe, case in point.

By the way, all the failing countries have YOUR view about the poor and the way they should be treated. Another thing, those Walmart folks you're ranting about that no jobs exist for are all being stolen by illegals and/or immigrants. It's when those type believe, like you, that their government should take care of them where the problem lies.

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Good point about illegals. I wholeheartedly agree.

We take in more immigrants than all the other countries combined.
And our military is as large or larger than all the other countries combined. It's like we are on the verge of becoming a Christo-Military state. What next, Crusades? We indeed are stupid.

Speaking of our wonderful military:
Secret Cold War tests in St. Louis raise concerns | Morrow County Sentinel.com

Europe rocks. Been there several times. Especially like Scandanavia.
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