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Neither. Just logged in and saw this thread. Wanted to see how many idiots are out there who have been duped. Apparently a lot.

I didn't start the thread. I just responded to the naive posts.

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My apologies. You are right. It must be terrible for you as the misunderstood genius, alone in the dunderheaded populace.

Planes were "not very convincing CG". What would it take to convince you? I'm fairly certain IF such a hoax were to be perpetrated the CG planes would have been damn near perfect on the screen.

But for it to be a hoax, not only hundreds within the government, but all also everyone that witnessed these planes (especially the second one where literally hundreds of thousands of people on Manhatten were watching the first tower burn)...EVERYONE would have to be in on it and lying through their teeth. All news crews filming from helicopters would have had to inserted the same plane CG into their video feeds, simultaneously. This is of course logistically impossible.

Show me any credible first-hand witness in NYC that day that saw the second tower explode in a fireball, but dispute that a plane was there. Witnesses report to hearing a plane roaring up on the scene, then a fireball with tower, plane, and body parts raining down from the explosion. I suppose this carefully timed hoax could also have required large loudspeakers on buildings, simulating the sound of an approaching jet? How far do you want to take this to refute reality?

The fact is that this was a spectacularly successful terrorist attack that for a few brief moments made the entire world gasp in disbelief. It was carried out by 19 ordinary men with extraordinary resolve to further their agenda. This is what is so difficult for people to comprehend, that such a small group could do such destruction in such a visible way. Had you submitted a movie script on 9/10/01 that described these events, your agent would have said it couldn't happen and was unbelievable. Next day it did.

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My apologies. You are right. It must be terrible for you as the misunderstood genius, alone in the dunderheaded populace.

Planes were "not very convincing CG". What would it take to convince you? I'm fairly certain IF such a hoax were to be perpetrated the CG planes would have been damn near perfect on the screen.

But for it to be a hoax, not only hundreds within the government, but all also everyone that witnessed these planes (especially the second one where literally hundreds of thousands of people on Manhatten were watching the first tower burn)...EVERYONE would have to be in on it and lying through their teeth. All news crews filming from helicopters would have had to inserted the same plane CG into their video feeds, simultaneously. This is of course logistically impossible.

Show me any credible first-hand witness in NYC that day that saw the second tower explode in a fireball, but dispute that a plane was there. Witnesses report to hearing a plane roaring up on the scene, then a fireball with tower, plane, and body parts raining down from the explosion. I suppose this carefully timed hoax could also have required large loudspeakers on buildings, simulating the sound of an approaching jet? How far do you want to take this to refute reality?

The fact is that this was a spectacularly successful terrorist attack that for a few brief moments made the entire world gasp in disbelief. It was carried out by 19 ordinary men with extraordinary resolve to further their agenda. This is what is so difficult for people to comprehend, that such a small group could do such destruction in such a visible way. Had you submitted a movie script on 9/10/01 that described these events, your agent would have said it couldn't happen and was unbelievable. Next day it did.

Now, your Hot Pocket just dinged in the microwave, back to your room in your mom's basement.
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Could the fire burn down WTC?

Fire didn't burn down the WTC.

Heat from the fire compromised the supporting steel structure and it collapsed under it's own weight.

How many times does that have to be said for a catsuck to understand?

Obviously, the building in Spain was a completely different design, was not nearly as tall and involved a different type of fuel - not to mention any number of other possible variables. Duh.
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Posts like this are why we need to fire 50% of the "teachers" out there (and double the pay of the other WORKING teachers)......There is an increasing number of very fooking stupid people out there. (and unfortunately, they VOTE!)

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As a person who works on military acft for a living, has done so for over twenty years, has seen an aircraft accident in person, has been part of several aircraft investigations, the majority of the public will not understand the effects of jet fuel, especially when mixed with whatever the additives called for, will do when burned. I've seen it, as it's burning and the after effects. It will burn like a mofo.I've seen it melt metal within minutes.

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(10) Another reason that we know the fires were not as serious as claimed, is that there are photos of people in the impacted region after the planes hit the building (and before it collapsed). The above photos show at least two survivors of the impact and the initial jet-fuel fire.



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I can tell you've never been around an aircraft wreck. The people standing in the impact region mat have been out of the blast path. I think it's safe to say that anybody standing in the front of the impact zone wasn't one of the ones seen in the gaping hole in the side of the building.

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(10) Another reason that we know the fires were not as serious as claimed, is that there are photos of people in the impacted region after the planes hit the building (and before it collapsed). The above photos show at least two survivors of the impact and the initial jet-fuel fire.
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The fire could burn down WTC and Pentagon but couldn’t burn a hair of a monitor and book?
First, the fire didn't "burn down" the trade center, it weakened the steel structure to the point of failing. A few thousand pounds of jet A has a funny way of heating things when ignited.
Secondly, who ever made that video is an idiot. Way too many assumptions on how the plane hit the pentagon. I'm sure it didn't hit in a straight and level angle. It could have been yawing to one side or another or at a high angle of attack.
Third, that much gas hitting the ground ( or building as it were ) the blast is going to continue in a forward direction, or in the direction of it's momentum. If you watched that video carefully, and it's obvious you didn't, you would have noticed the burnt markings and soot forward of the impact area.


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The original photo shows that the damage was a hole 2 ˝ yards in diameter. Could the whole Boeing squeeze into it?



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One hole, 2 ˝ yards in diameter
Whatever hit the Pentagon on September 11, 2001 made a hole several meters wide in the front wall between the first and second floors. It emerged three blocks later, leaving behind a perfectly round hole of about 2 ˝ yards in diameter.
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First, the fire didn't "burn down" the trade center, it weakened the steel structure to the point of failing. A few thousand pounds of jet A has a funny way of heating things when ignited.
Secondly, who ever made that video is an idiot. Way too many assumptions on how the plane hit the pentagon. I'm sure it didn't hit in a straight and level angle. It could have been yawing to one side or another or at a high angle of attack.
Third, that much gas hitting the ground ( or building as it were ) the blast is going to continue in a forward direction, or in the direction of it's momentum. If you watched that video carefully, and it's obvious you didn't, you would have noticed the burnt markings and soot forward of the impact area.


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Did your theory apply on WTC 7?
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Gen. Says Flt. 77 Did Not Hit Pentagon

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9/11 Conspiracy Solved: Names, Connections, & Details Exposed!

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At 21:53 min. - the Pentagon's missing $2.3 trillion is announced by Donald Rumsfeld, and it's interesting, that the destruction of that area of Pentagon and Building 7 were connected to these missing trillions of dollars.
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OMFG...just cruising around and saw this ****ing shit.

arent you taking to much time away from building your Dec 21, 2012 apocalypse bunker by wasting our time here with 9/11 conspiracy shit?


....CG airplanes?! This is how far you 9/11 conspiracy morons have been allowed to take this bullshit? get a grip man, get out of the house and away from youtube dude, go get a corn dog or something.
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... It was carried out by 19 ordinary men with extraordinary resolve to further their agenda...
Excelent post. This imo is the crux of the argument.

It is a given that it is far easier to destroy than to create in this world yet look at what ordinary men and women with the same resolve the world over have been able to create. Is it really hard to believe a similar small group couldn't do the same level of destruction?

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Excelent post. This imo is the crux of the argument.

It is a given that it is far easier to destroy than to create in this world yet look at what ordinary men and women with the same resolve the world over have been able to create. Is it really hard to believe a similar small group couldn't do the same level of destruction?
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