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Same applies to vaping bro. But as it's fux news you'll discount it as a right wing plot.
Pot users show drop in IQ from adolescence to adulthood

By Loren Grush
Published August 28, 2012
FoxNews.com


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While smoking marijuana is sometimes touted for its ability to dull pain, research has emerged showing that it also significantly dulls the mind – especially in teenagers.
A new study of more than 1,000 children in New Zealand, following them from birth to the age of 38, found that those who began using cannabis during their adolescence showed a decrease in their general intellectual inability, as measured by IQ tests, from childhood to adulthood.
A person's IQ - or intelligence quotient - does not measure a person's amount of knowledge, but rather represents a person's ability to comprehend concepts, as well their capacity to process information. Typically, IQ does not change significantly over the course of a person's life, unless as a result of severe brain damage from trauma or disease.
Although previous research has found adolescent cannabis use to have an effect on IQ, this is the first study to rule out pre-cannabis performance explaining the results. Researchers initially tested the participants at the age of 13 – before they began using cannabis – ultimately comparing this IQ to later tests throughout their adulthood.
While drug tests were not used in this study, detailed questionnaires given to the participants at five different ages throughout their lives helped to establish their marijuana use.
“We assessed cannabis use in two ways,” the study's lead author Madeline Meier, of the Department of Psychology and Neuroscience and Duke Transdisciplinary Prevention Research Center at Duke University, Durham, told FoxNews.com. “At [various] ages, they were asked to go back and report for that past year how frequently they used cannabis. They were also given diagnostic interviews, where we diagnosed cannabis dependence. Dependence generally reflects someone who has been using cannabis and experiencing health, social and/or legal problems – but are still continuing to use.”
Each individual was categorized into one of various groups depending on their cannabis use and dependence. The two main groups the researchers focused on were adult-onset cannabis users and adolescent-onset cannabis users. Adolescent-onset was defined in two ways – dependence on cannabis before the age of 18 or weekly cannabis use before 18. Adult-onset was defined the same way for after the age of 18.
Upon determining the age of cannabis-use onset, the researchers then analyzed the participants’ various IQ tests to establish trends in intelligence over time. For adult-onset cannabis users, there was ultimately no change in their IQ over time. But individuals who started using cannabis between the ages of 13 and 18 experienced an average IQ drop of eight points.
Not only did intelligence decrease, but the changes seemed to be permanent. Quitting or toning down cannabis use did not help adolescent-onset cannabis users to recover their lost IQ points.
According to Meier, an eight-point drop may sound small, but it can actually be a significant decrease with lasting effects.
“Take an average person – an IQ of 100 puts them in the 50th percentile of intelligence,” Meier said. “If this person loses eight IQ points, it drops them down to the 29th percentile. IQ is a strong determinate of a person’s access to college education, getting a job, performance on the job, tendency to develop heart disease. So those individuals who lose IQ points may be disadvantaged toward the most important aspects of life.”
While the results may be staggering, Meier said there is still much work to be done. The researchers did not determine how much cannabis a person needs to use in order to impair intelligence, as well as the age range that is most vulnerable. However, Meier feels that future research should focus on cannabis use during the onset of puberty – a crucial time for the brain’s development.
Even though more information is needed to establish the exact effects of marijuana on the developing mind, Meier noted it’s important for adults and teenagers alike to have a better understanding of just what cannabis does to their minds and bodies.
“[People] really need to be aware that cannabis isn’t harmless for adolescents,” Meier said. “2011 was the first year in which adolescents smoked more marijuana than cigarettes. They’re getting the message that cigarettes are dangerous and that marijuana is not. They need to understand that it is not harmless.”




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Young poeple shouldn't drink. Young people shouldn't smoke pot.
Duh.

But on the other hand, some of us have enough extra IQ that we can afford to lose some experiencing life's little pleasures. Some of us(^) don't have any to spare.

Tell me, anyone who believes in god...
Did god put pot here or did Satan?
Didn't god create the Earth (in seven days - ROTF)?
WTF is up with this god dude?

god was a stoner. Face it.
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oldfart,
certainly explains everything...
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" Cannabidiol —CBD— is a compound in Cannabis that has medical effects but does not make people feel “stoned” and actually counters some of the effects of THC. After decades in which only high-THC Cannabis was available, CBD-rich strains are now being grown by and for medical users."

But there currently is no strain that is THC-free. The future of prohibition is soon to become very complicated though. Freedom-loving people are persistent.

Cannabidiol - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"Medicinal use
Cannabidiol is shown to decrease activity of the limbic system[10] and to decrease social isolation induced by THC.[11] It's also shown that Cannabidiol reduces anxiety in social anxiety disorder. [12] [13] In April 2005, Canadian authorities approved the marketing of Sativex, a mouth spray for multiple sclerosis to alleviate pain. Sativex contains tetrahydrocannabinol together with cannabidiol. It is marketed in Canada by GW Pharmaceuticals.
In 1985 a single case study suggested that CBD may be effective in the management of levodopa-induced dyskinesia in a Parkinson's Disease patient.[14]
Studies have shown that CBD may reduce schizophrenic symptoms in patients, likely due to their apparent ability to stabilize disrupted or disabled NMDA receptor pathways in the brain, which are shared and sometimes contested by norepinephrine and GABA.[6][15] Leweke et al. performed a double blind, 4 week, explorative controlled clinical trial to compare the effects of purified cannabidiol and the atypical antipsychotic amisulpride on improving the symptoms of schizophrenia in 42 patients with acute paranoid schizophrenia. Both treatments were associated with a significant decrease of psychotic symptoms after 2 and 4 weeks as assessed by Brief Psychiatric Rating Scale and Positive and Negative Syndrome Scale. While there was no statistical difference between the two treatment groups, cannabidiol induced significantly fewer side effects (extrapyramidal symptoms, increase in prolactin, weight gain) when compared to amisulpride.[16]
Cannabidiol has also been shown as being effective treating an often drug-induced set of neurological movement disorders known as dystonia.[8] In one study, five out of five participants showed noted improvement in their dystonic symptoms by 20-50%.[7] CBD also appears to protect against 'binge' alcohol induced neurodegeneration.[17][18]
Cannabidiol may block THC's interference with memory.[19]"

There are also positive effects from pot that don't relate to CBD. Appetite stimulation is the most obvious one - for wasting diseases. It's widely accepted that pot also eases nausea experienced during chemotherapy. It's also very safe as there has NEVER been a recorded death due to cannabis overdose (it can make you sick dizzy though if you eat too much - take my word for it)
And Peter Tosh says it's good for asthma and tuberculosis.

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So WTF?
Did god screw up or what?
Isn't "HE" perfect?
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Soooooooo.... it's OK to use once you're an adult?

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It's no big deal.
What's the big deal about it?
I've never heard anyone make sense of that.

Are you chicks aware of how it became illegal?
It's a really interesting part of American history.

http://brucealanblock.com/why-marijuana-became-legal/

It's clearly victim of an unjustifiable prohibition. Stoners know that because they have the necessary experience. Other people don't like it's effects (and it affects different people in slightly different ways). They tend to vote more often. And they also have attitudes fueled by government propoganda and ignorrant public opinions. It's an uphill climb - but eventuallly, truth and freedom will ring. 'Tards now have to watch blacks and whites dance. Some day they'll lose this ignorrabattle too. Progress is inevitable.

Thanks for this interesting topic, Old Fart.

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I'm with ya, terd. I see nothing wrong with someone responsibly enjoying some herb or even fungus on a Friday or Saturday evening in the privacy of their own home, as long as they keep their shit straight otherwise. It's no worse than booze; plenty of angry drunks... never seen an angry stoner or tripper.

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Luck, my very first post here several years ago was in a thread about "what is your favorite libation?" or something like that.

Everyone else here was stodgy, many ex-marines, etc., with attitudes and lots of macho pride. Well, I chimed in about shrooms being the best, hands down. That didn't go over too well with the alcohol crowd. But hey, just being honest. Shrooms rule - most of the time - can get kinda hairy sometimes. I suspect some of them may be spiked with adulterates, but who knows. That's the kind of risk you take when things are illegal (abortion).

Everything in moderation.
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Having been burned by the illusion of anonymity once, I'm not comfortable saying anything more. I'm sorry... this is a conversation I really would like to have.

Maybe some day...

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Perfectly understandable. Always assume there is no anonymity. I'm fifty-something, self-employed and ready to speak out to some degree. Until more people like me do it will never become legal. That is the catch 22. The image of drugs in general are generated by the 'tards who make the news. Normal people know enough to keep it behind closed doors. It's probably the largest reason for prohibition. Just as with alcohol, the ones who could have spoken up did not and they let the whackos dictate policy. If you haven't seen Ken Burns's documentary on prohibiton of alcohol it's a must see. It's like deja-vu all over again.

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BTW, nero would like to speak out about his time down at the adult arcade but he's affraid his wife will see it. Poor nero.
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Great... I'm not a huge drinker, but after about three minutes of that first video, I'm feeling really thirsty.

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