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apfelbaum 12-12-2011 06:26 AM

Ron Paul for President!
 
As much as everyone here would like to throw others into a pit of leftist or rightist propaganda.....I would like to say that this is my guy for the presidency. Obama sucks corporate ass, the rights people also do, I can only envision our America regaining itself with him.

May I also note that this is where we are...

Howard Steven Friedman: 5 Countries With the Highest Poverty Rate (OECD)

The 4th largest economic country in the world (and the supposeldly most developed) with the highest poverty rate...sad... but true

really a sad story.

It is time the US get itself together and stop this BS from destroying it ...

soslow 12-12-2011 08:42 AM

Does he have a realistic chance?

RockyMt 12-12-2011 03:39 PM

As a spoiler. The truth is toxic in politics.

Semper Fi!

-Rocky-

Old Fart 12-13-2011 01:40 PM

Ron has good logical concepts and ideas. Unfortunately there's that 2% crazy in him.
And naturally we focus on the 2% which discounts him. Too bad, as the country needs about 80% of what he proposes.

sburns2421 12-13-2011 02:13 PM

Ron Paul has several positions I do not agree with, but given his track record and consistency I know that he is sincere.

Romney/Gingrich say more I agree with, but I know they are being insincere and will flip-flop as soon as they see an advantage.

If Paul is still a candidate by Super Tuesday I will vote for him in the primary.




Old Fart 12-13-2011 02:43 PM

He ain't beltway bred so he's sadly toast.

nero 12-13-2011 04:06 PM

He says many things that sound good.
He says some other stuff too that will keep him from getting elected.

i.e.-
No friend of Israel makes him sympathetic to Palestinians (Hamas). A non-
starter for sure in a country that has little love for things Arab.

Pulling out of Foreign aid sounds good.

Pulling back from worldwide military presence makes people nervous because of the lessons learned 75 years ago. If US withdrew from S.Korea, how long until Kim Jong Il invades ? 15 minutes ?

De-Fed "ing" sounds interesting but how ?

Doing away with the Fed bureacracies like Dept of no-energy, no-education, no-labor, no-commerce, etc...that sounds real good.

I just don't see how with those above mentioned warts plus his age that he's going anywhere.

nycstripes 12-13-2011 08:03 PM

Newt is a flip-flopping train wreck that is a Progressive just parading as a Conservative. Read some of this about Newt. He considers FDR to be the best US President....not a Conservative viewpoint.

Newt's man crush on Andy Stern is even more disturbing.

Gingrich Flashback: ‘Progressive’ FDR Was ‘Greatest President of the 20th Century’ (Plus – SEIU’s Andy Stern Is Visionary Union Leader!) | Video | TheBlaze.com

nycstripes 12-13-2011 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Fart (Post 691337)
Ron has good logical concepts and ideas. Unfortunately there's that 2% crazy in him.
And naturally we focus on the 2% which discounts him. Too bad, as the country needs about 80% of what he proposes.

I agree.

nero 12-13-2011 08:36 PM

Not an inspiring choice to make between these people, is it ?:p

mattmansell 12-13-2011 09:50 PM

His foreign policy ideas are straight up dangerous.

nycstripes 12-13-2011 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattmansell (Post 691392)
His foreign policy ideas are straight up dangerous.

I like what he proposes but its not adviseable to do all of what he says with regard to foreign policy. There are plenty of other countries that need us to give them the finger...finalcially or otherwise.

soslow 12-14-2011 10:44 AM

Can I vote for him? I'm Australian and we are virtually a US state. Actually, I should be able to vote in Israeli elections, too.

soslow 12-14-2011 10:47 AM

"His foreign policy ideas are straight up dangerous."

You mean he proposes to invade foreign countries that are no threat to the US, get thousands of US troops killed and many thousands more maimed for life, on the basis of a pack of lies?

sburns2421 12-14-2011 02:47 PM

One point behind Gingrich in Iowa as of this morning.

Ron Paul | Iowa Poll | Newt Gingrich | The Daily Caller

What is amazing to me is how the media ingores him most of the time. If it finishes this way in a few weeks the headline will be:
"Newt wins big in Iowa over Romney"

I think we are seeing a repeat of 1992, the first election cycle I watched very closely. It is not just what the media reports, it is what they don't report that helps influence the outcome.




nycstripes 12-14-2011 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soslow (Post 691444)
Can I vote for him? I'm Australian and we are virtually a US state. Actually, I should be able to vote in Israeli elections, too.

If I were you, I'd be more concerned with voting Julia Gillard out of office since you have your own Socialist to get rid of down under.

nero 12-15-2011 02:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nycstripes (Post 691485)
If I were you, I'd be more concerned with voting Julia Gillard out of office since you have your own Socialist to get rid of down under.

Apples and Oranges I think...
Listen to her words starting at 06:56 to 08:27.
If that's a socialist in Australia, then they're to the right of most of the US...

soslow 12-15-2011 09:31 AM

Nero Hero!!! At last you speak the truth.

If Julia Gillard is a socialist, I am going to be Moto GP champion next year. Actually, I'll go a bit further: I am the 2011 champ; Stoner can't ride for shit.

But I wouldn't prostitute myself to listen to her speech.

I cannot wait for her to lose. She's got the zionist cock so far up her arse it's a wonder she can walk.

nero 12-15-2011 02:23 PM

Well, I don't know about her policies at home as I don't follow your news that closely. But I did catch the tail end of that speech and it shocked me.

Like I said, Apples and Oranges...???

RockyMt 12-15-2011 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soslow (Post 691444)
Can I vote for him? I'm Australian and we are virtually a US state. Actually, I should be able to vote in Israeli elections, too.


Just get yer teeth fixed, and raise yer IQ by a factor of 5, then get over there, the line forms to the right. :cool:


Semper Fi!


-Rocky-


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