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Here you go. Jesus Camp:
Brain Washing ( Jesus Camp ''Highlights'' ) - YouTube

The sicko mofo's. Now you know where tea baggers come from. It would take a strong person to come out of that unscathed. Tea baggers are weak...weak in the mind. It spills over into the political realm.

Next time you argue religion with someone you can reference back to this. Take pitty. They are scarred individuals who have had their minds scrambled before they even had a chance to make an intelligent choice. It's sad really. The country is full of this mythology-based mind control. Should be illegal to do that to children.

5:05, think one of these kids might shoot a Gabby Giffords? Sick, sick, sick.
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Sorta like the "right's" version of that island of clueless progressives that played target a few months ago.......

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Sorta like the "right's" version of that island of clueless progressives that played target a few months ago.......

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Really? I never heard exactly what was taught there. Anyone with any information about what made those kids so dangerous?
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Chris Mooney | Is There a Bias Asymmetry Between Democrats and Republicans?

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There’s a must read item today at the Huffington Post by Jonathan Weiler, co-author of the excellent book Authoritarianism and Polarization in American Politics. Weiler argues (as have I) that the “Republican war on science,” a term that I coined, is really just a subset of the “Republican war on reality.”
And not just that. Weiler further asserts that we’re seeing this right now because the Republican party is full of authoritarians—people who think they’re 100 percent right and everyone who disagrees with them is 100 percent wrong, and who have little tolerance for ambiguity or complexity.
All my research on ideology points to this conclusion as well—but I’m not sure Weiler fully articulates how authoritarians can be so factually wrong, and also sure of themselves and unable to admit correction.

To me, what seems to occur in authoritarian reasoning is that you firmly define in your mind an outgroup (liberals, environmentalists), and you then automatically take any claim that denigrates that outgroup (socialists, traitors) to be true. And then, if this claim is refuted, you’re outraged and you come to believe the false claim even more strongly than before. You double down. (This, of course, would explain why Tea Party climate deniers are so sure of themselves.)
And that’s not all. If you’re an authoritarian, you also probably leap to ideologically friendly conclusions to begin with. And when your ideological opponents are making an argument that’s characterized by a lot of nuance, you attack a caricatured, simplistic version of it.
Indeed, you probably find the making of nuanced arguments—and the expression of uncertainty—to be inherent signs of weakness. And you probably find people who constantly talk in nuanced ways, like President Obama or most university professors, to be suspicious, untrustworthy. Who do authoritarians trust? A strong leader who states it clearly, plainly, and toughly and doesn't waver.

If Weiler is right—and I think he is—then what this means is that we probably have a bias asymmetry in American politics. And that’s a really big deal.
Journalists, fact checkers, and so on go around acting as though there is a ‘pox on both their houses’—everybody has their own biases, everybody lies and distorts, so we need “balanced” journalism to handle this equally distributed nonsense. But Weiler suggests that this is not actually true. Rather, it should be the case that one group gets more things wrong, misrepresents and distorts more, and is less willing to admit to error or correction, or to change its mind.
Does that sound like modern American politics? Does that sound like the climate fight, or the healthcare fight, or arguments over economic policy?
It sure does to me…but don’t expect authoritarians to ever admit it!
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the tea party, the ones that say they put "country first" and want to "save" the country from going down in flames....

urge small business owners to do exactly that, send this country down in flames by bringing it all to a stop.
At a time were our economy is living on a IV drip, these geniuses figure the best way to "save" this land, is to shoot it in the head. This is were i lost ALL respect for anything these guys have to say or offer.
The Republican party needs to grow some balls and put these clowns out to pasture and take control back of their true Republican party principles.


from TPN (Tea Party Nation), a message to American small business owners...I actually got this ****ing letter in my mailbox, this is just the one paragraph that sent me for a loop, un****ingbelievable:

"I, an American small business owner, part of the class that produces the vast majority of real, wealth producing jobs in this country, hereby resolve that I will not hire a single person until this war against business and my country is stopped.”
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Stupid is as stupid does... Libtard's

Who Supports Occupy Wall Street? | TheBlaze.com

“Local” supporters:
Communist Party USA
The American Nazi Party
Revolutionary Communist Party
Black Panthers
Nation of Islam’s Louis Farrakhan
CAIR
Some big names in the political world have also lent support to the cause:
President Barack Obama
Vice President Joe Biden
Nancy Pelosi
International Leaders and Governments:
Iran’s Supreme Leader, the Ayatollah Khamenei
Hugo Chavez
Revolutionary Guards of Iran
The Govt of North Korea
Communist Party of China
Hezbollah
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Stupid is as stupid does... Libtard's

Who Supports Occupy Wall Street? | TheBlaze.com

“Local” supporters:
Communist Party USA
The American Nazi Party
Revolutionary Communist Party
Black Panthers
Nation of Islam’s Louis Farrakhan
CAIR
Some big names in the political world have also lent support to the cause:
President Barack Obama
Vice President Joe Biden
Nancy Pelosi
International Leaders and Governments:
Iran’s Supreme Leader, the Ayatollah Khamenei
Hugo Chavez
Revolutionary Guards of Iran
The Govt of North Korea
Communist Party of China
Hezbollah
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To me, what seems to occur in authoritarian reasoning is that you firmly define in your mind an outgroup (liberals, environmentalists), and you then automatically take any claim that denigrates that outgroup (socialists, traitors) to be true. And then, if this claim is refuted, you’re outraged and you come to believe the false claim even more strongly than before. You double down. (This, of course, would explain why Tea Party climate deniers are so sure of themselves.)
And that’s not all. If you’re an authoritarian, you also probably leap to ideologically friendly conclusions to begin with. And when your ideological opponents are making an argument that’s characterized by a lot of nuance, you attack a caricatured, simplistic version of it.
Indeed, you probably find the making of nuanced arguments—and the expression of uncertainty—to be inherent signs of weakness. And you probably find people who constantly talk in nuanced ways, like President Obama or most university professors, to be suspicious, untrustworthy. Who do authoritarians trust? A strong leader who states it clearly, plainly, and toughly and doesn't waver.
I rest my case.. prolly should just wrest it though...
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the tea party, the ones that say they put "country first" and want to "save" the country from going down in flames....

urge small business owners to do exactly that, send this country down in flames by bringing it all to a stop.
At a time were our economy is living on a IV drip, these geniuses figure the best way to "save" this land, is to shoot it in the head. This is were i lost ALL respect for anything these guys have to say or offer.
The Republican party needs to grow some balls and put these clowns out to pasture and take control back of their true Republican party principles.


from TPN (Tea Party Nation), a message to American small business owners...I actually got this ****ing letter in my mailbox, this is just the one paragraph that sent me for a loop, un****ingbelievable:

"I, an American small business owner, part of the class that produces the vast majority of real, wealth producing jobs in this country, hereby resolve that I will not hire a single person until this war against business and my country is stopped.”
Now compare what you said about a privately owned and operated business owner and this....

Pelosi: Heck yeah, the government should shut down that scab plant in South Carolina

Heritage finds a nice catch in this CNBC interview with Nancy Pelosi last week, as Maria Bartiromo queries Barack Obama’s favorite House Speaker on the role of government in business expansion. Should agencies like the NLRB have the authority to shut down private-sector plants simply for not being unionized? Pelosi barely waits for the question to conclude before blurting out her “yes”:
In an interview late last week, House Minority Leaeder Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) told CNBC that Boeing should either unionize its production facilities in South Carolina, or shut them down entirely.
“Do you think it’s right that Boeing has to close down that plant in South Carolina because it’s non union?” asked host Maria Bartiromo. Pelosi’s reply: “Yes.”
The minority leader quickly added that she would rather it simply unionize and stay open. But barring unionization, by Pelosi’s reasoning, it should simply shut down.

Pelosi: Heck yeah, the government should shut down that scab plant in South Carolina Hot Air

Example of a Libtard
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You beat me to it. Pelosi got caught in a rare truth flub. I expected this to have come from Joe Biden but its more meaningful that Pelosi said it.
Without Unionization, the DemocRAT machine gets no kickbacks so they won't allow Boeing to open the plant as a non-union shop.
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Stupid is as stupid does... Libtard's

Who Supports Occupy Wall Street? | TheBlaze.com

“Local” supporters:
Communist Party USA
The American Nazi Party
Revolutionary Communist Party
Black Panthers
Nation of Islam’s Louis Farrakhan
CAIR
Some big names in the political world have also lent support to the cause:
President Barack Obama
Vice President Joe Biden
Nancy Pelosi
International Leaders and Governments:
Iran’s Supreme Leader, the Ayatollah Khamenei
Hugo Chavez
Revolutionary Guards of Iran
The Govt of North Korea
Communist Party of China
Hezbollah
You are one shameless individual. Your post reminds me of "patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel".
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You are one shameless individual. Your post reminds me of "patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel".
Libtart... I rest my case.
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Really? I never heard exactly what was taught there. Anyone with any information about what made those kids so dangerous?
Still waiting.
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You are one shameless individual. Your post reminds me of "patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel".
You keep throwing that Patriotism remark like it's dirty and disgusting, but I'm betting you haven't a clue...

Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.

Boswell tells us that Samuel Johnson made this famous pronouncement that patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel on the evening of April 7, 1775. He doesn't provide any context for how the remark arose, so we don't really know for sure what was on Johnson's mind at the time.
However, Boswell assures us that Johnson was not indicting patriotism in general, only false patriotism.

On OWS, like I said before you'd fit in real good.
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You keep throwing that Patriotism remark like it's dirty and disgusting, but I'm betting you haven't a clue...

Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.

Boswell tells us that Samuel Johnson made this famous pronouncement that patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel on the evening of April 7, 1775. He doesn't provide any context for how the remark arose, so we don't really know for sure what was on Johnson's mind at the time.
However, Boswell assures us that Johnson was not indicting patriotism in general, only false patriotism.

On OWS, like I said before you'd fit in real good.
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It is when it's used by conformist bullies who back the butt reaming that we just got and are still getting and will continue to get. You are on the side that includes a bunch of thieves and you seem to like it. I'm on the side that includes a bunch of grease balls but at least I'm on the side that gets it - even though they don't understand why or how.
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It is when it's used by conformist bullies who back the butt reaming that we just got and are still getting and will continue to get. You are on the side that includes a bunch of thieves and you seem to like it. I'm on the side that includes a bunch of grease balls but at least I'm on the side that gets it - even though they don't understand why or how.
Riiight Like the commander and thief in the white house. There's nothing like crony socialism where the government picks the winners and losers.
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Riiight Like the commander and thief in the white house. There's nothing like crony socialism where the government picks the winners and losers.
It's called crony capitalism. Like when Lew Ranieri got his friend Reagan to sign the legislation that allowed private financial institutions to sell derivitives and then the first ones to sell them was Lew Ranieri. Understand? It's pretty simple.

Another good and more recent example is when Goldmann Sachs got the NYPD to keep the protesters from in front of their building. Of course the 4.5 million dollar contribution to the NYPD had nothing to do with it. That's cronyism. No, it's beyond cronyism. It's out and out corruption. Buying protection is not what the Founders had in mind, I'll bet.

When was Obama a thief? I'm dying to know. You're full of shite, Liceman. You always have been and you always will be.

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It's called crony capitalism. Like when Lew Ranieri got his friend Reagan to sign the legislation that allowed private financial institutions to sell derivitives and then the first ones to sell them was Lew Ranieri. Understand? It's pretty simple.

Another good and more recent example is when Goldmann Sachs got the NYPD to keep the protesters from in front of their building. Of course the 4.5 million dollar contribution to the NYPD had nothing to do with it. That's cronyism. No, it's beyond cronyism. It's out and out corruption. Buying protection is not what the Founders had in mind, I'll bet.

When was Obama a thief? I'm dying to know. You're full of shite, Liceman. You always have been and you always will be.
WTF are you talking about? The NYPD takes no "contributions" period. Any favoritism comes direct from Bloomberg.

You're letting your stupidity get the best of you.

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It's called crony capitalism. Like when Lew Ranieri got his friend Reagan to sign the legislation that allowed private financial institutions to sell derivitives and then the first ones to sell them was Lew Ranieri. Understand? It's pretty simple.

Another good and more recent example is when Goldmann Sachs got the NYPD to keep the protesters from in front of their building. Of course the 4.5 million dollar contribution to the NYPD had nothing to do with it. That's cronyism. No, it's beyond cronyism. It's out and out corruption. Buying protection is not what the Founders had in mind, I'll bet.

When was Obama a thief? I'm dying to know. You're full of shite, Liceman. You always have been and you always will be.
Your out of your league and it shows. This is exactly what meant when I said "The ends justify the means." Do your research before you make wild ass accusations, it helps your argument.

By the way I don't do requests, three years of a failed Presidency and you want examples?
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How little you know. It gets old after a while.

JPMC isn't alone "Donating" to NYPD! Bank of America, Barclays Capital, Goldman Sachs... others did also! #occupywallstreet #OWS


And here's another example of corporate cronyism: Iraq, no bid contracts given out to companies that both Cheney and Bush had long ties to. Halliburton, Brown and Root, Dyncorp, etc. Gee, I wonder how much money our country borrowed in order to reward those cronies? It wouldn't surprise me if Cheney or Bush weren't now on the board of directors of some of those companies. Would it surprise you? Nah, you don't care. YOU are the problem.

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I checked and neither is now on Halliburton or KBR's board. I guess they're past their prime. But Cheney was. A chronology of corruption:
http://www.halliburtonwatch.org/abou...hronology.html

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