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Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: South Lyon, MI USA
BSESS, let's see if we can get agreement on the facts, as we see them?
1. Rossi was in front at the time of the incident.
2. The leading rider has the line.
3. A following rider has to avoid a leading rider.
4. The leading rider can choose his own line, as long as he does not push a following rider off the track or make a sudden change of line or swerve into another rider.
5. Rossi did not push MM off the track.
6. Rossi did not make contact with MM.
7. Rossi did not kick MM.
8. Rossi did not "suddenly" swerve off line. He purposely and (relatively slowly) pushed MM wide to try to disrupt his drive off the corner. This is (up to now) a legal move.
9. MM leaned over further and came back into Rossi. Clearly seen on the videos.
10. MM's line came into Rossi and they made contact, ultimately causing MM to fall.
11. There is an unwritten rule that a rider always tries to avoid causing a crash or major disruption to a another rider who is a championship contender/leader, when he himself is not a contender. This is a wide-spread and acknowledged aspect of racing.
12. MM has crashed multiple times in the races this season, for multiple reasons.
13. MM made it very clear by his super aggressive passing and unnecessary battle with Rossi that he does not consider (11) important, for Rossi. Watching the battle, it seemed almost inevitable that one of them will crash. And so it happened.
14. MM let JL come through without ANY type of challenge, zero attempt at come-back after his mistake let JL through. Nothing at all. Just let him get on with it. That is absolutely clear for anyone to see.
15. RD said BOTH riders were at fault, but Rossi made the "illegal" move.
16.RD has not explained what EXACTLY that illegal move was, given that Rossi was the leading rider, had the racing line, did not kick MM, did not push him off the track, did not suddenly swerve into MM.
I'll take your comments about the Civil Rights Act and the KKK with the humor I assume it was intended and turn it right around to you. I agree that there have been a LOT of incongruent and illogical statements made in this discussion and decisions made.
And now, after having already agreed to disagree on the topic, I'm finally done with it.
I will change one thing.....
I think there is now so much scrutiny on MM and his track actions, that he WILL try to win the last race of the season to attempt to prove his neutrality and his speed over Rossi and everyone else.
So, I think that the race order could be
...and Lorenzo takes the championship.
Triumph Tiger 955i with decent suspension.
Ducati 996 with hot 999 motor
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