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b.miller123 03-11-2012 08:12 AM

RC51 Streetfighter Build
 
Purists and haters be damned. Using the PVM Viper as motivation I have sold off all the parts from my pristine, never been down, 2003 RC51 and have started my build. Always in need of more funds, so feel free to visit my classified ads.


Here is what she looked like two weeks ago before the part out. Nevermind the crappy track tank, the nice one was on the shelf tucked neatly away.

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/h...2/35aa9a0e.jpg

Mid part out:

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/h...2/5a115979.jpg

b.miller123 03-11-2012 08:15 AM

Cleared out the subframe and labeled everything with my handy label maker.

About 30 minutes after staring tonight:

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/h...2/a25b71fa.jpg

Couldn't help but see what the exhaust might look like. The cans will be shortened down about 6 inches from this:

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/h...2/4d077368.jpg

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/h...2/e7328bd3.jpg

b.miller123 03-11-2012 08:17 AM

After a couple more beers, and more label making, this is where she sits:

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/h...2/f625b5bd.jpg

b.miller123 03-11-2012 08:29 AM

Still figuring out where all the electronics stuff will be located. I've gotten some ideas and stuff from dstewart's builds. The battery will be below the front header, but everything else is still up in the air. I've given some thought to mounting the ECU behind the left hand frame spar that goes to the lower mount. I think it will probably get too hot and get toasted there. I can't have it mounted to the outside of the frame, as it will be exposed and look like shit. Only other options I see are: place it under the seat or down where the battery will be since the battery will be a smaller lithium unit. I think under the seat will be best as I don't want all those wires running down to where the battery is.

Hopefully parts will start arriving next week. So far I have the following on order:
Front mounts
Yamaha XT660R headlight/cowling/windscreen and other stuff
Bars
Bar clamps
Speedo healer (the Jim Ahlman unit was just another big thing to hide)
cbr1000rr tail and seat cowl
thorsten frame sliders
Better shape fuel tank that will still need some work, but it is better than the white one.


I am still debating about which tail I want to use. The cbr is the one that the viper has, but I don't know how it will look with the larger oval sato cans. I have been giving some thought to using a ducati 1098/848 tail as well. I think it will probably look much better and fit the RC's fat ugly tank better than the cbr unit. I have also thought about an mv agusta tail, but they are ridiculously expensive and harder to find.

Thoughts and input is always welcome.

cbrbear 03-11-2012 08:53 AM

use an RC211V tail. You can get one for the NC30 from Tyga right now!

bensexcessbikes 03-11-2012 02:02 PM

Cool man, will look forward to the progress and to see the final product.

b.miller123 03-11-2012 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cbrbear (Post 701229)
use an RC211V tail. You can get one for the NC30 from Tyga right now!

Hmm, not sure how it would look since I want two exhaust cans.

Dezmo 03-11-2012 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by b.miller123 (Post 701228)
Still figuring out where all the electronics stuff will be located. <snip> Thoughts and input is always welcome.

When my buddy built his VFR streetfighter with no tail at all on it, he wound up refabricating the fuel tank 'floor' so that it sat higher in the back and made room for the battery and other stuff usually in the tail. He lost about half a gallon of fuel capacity, but its all hidden.

Keep up the good work and keep taking pics!

b.miller123 03-11-2012 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dezmo (Post 701245)
When my buddy built his VFR streetfighter with no tail at all on it, he wound up refabricating the fuel tank 'floor' so that it sat higher in the back and made room for the battery and other stuff usually in the tail. He lost about half a gallon of fuel capacity, but its all hidden.

Keep up the good work and keep taking pics!

I don't think it would work well with the RC tank. The fuel pump is pretty far back towards the rear mount. That is a good idea though.

nobody 03-11-2012 05:51 PM

Will you be using clipons or risers with some sort of handle bar? I like the riser look with bars for a streetfighter...keep us posted

b.miller123 03-11-2012 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nobody (Post 701254)
Will you be using clipons or risers with some sort of handle bar? I like the riser look with bars for a streetfighter...keep us posted

I'm probably going to go with a standard handle bar setup. It will be interesting with the scotts damper in the way. I've looked into using a scotts sub mount, but most of those seem pretty expensive and it doesn't look like they are universal. For the price, it is hard to beat a set of cheap bar mounts and risers and just drilling the stock triple.

That is the plan for now, it may change further down the road, but I need to just work on getting it all together for now and then iron out little details later. At my current job (which hopefully I won't have much longer, I'm interviewing for another job with a possible 42% raise over what I am making now) I have the ability to get pretty much anything I want machined, as I can do the design, programming and run the cnc machines. Just a question of how custom I want to go and finding the time to do everything.

nobody 03-11-2012 08:47 PM

I hear ya...of all the resources I have at my disposal time seems to be the one I have the least of. Good luck and keep the pics of the progress coming.

Tacheny 03-12-2012 06:29 PM

This is awesome! I've always wanted to fighter mine, but doubt I ever will. The thought of this bike, upright w/db bars is very boner inspiring.:p

b.miller123 03-13-2012 02:33 AM

Some new parts arrived today. The piles are starting to get bigger. I need to get my ass into gear with the rewiring....

Radiators and tyga hugger, mini reservoirs and bump pad courtesy of Glenn. I think I got the underhung bracket from him about two years ago! Finally scored a brand new ducati caliper for it a few months back. Shift kit is off wibbly's bike.

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/h...2/658c6c9e.jpg


I actually found the headlight from searching for "XT660R headlight for sale forum", and found a classifieds ad from may of 2011 from a guy in the UK on some random forum. Joined that forum and sent the guy an email. He actually still had all of it brand new, still in the box sitting in his garage. He had just finished cleaning out his spare parts and this stuff was going on eBay the next day before I emailed him. Totally worth every penny, but you don't even want to know how much all this cost.

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/h...2/edf19e41.jpg

b.miller123 03-13-2012 02:35 AM

Not much work done today as I am helping the wife restore some antique furniture for our daughter's bedroom and I had to take a look at something on my truck. Thought it was ball joints (just replaced two of them ****ers) but it was just rotted bushings on my shocks. Got some help from the little one with the truck:

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/h...2/a21227d8.jpg

dasrider 03-13-2012 03:24 AM

Off to a good start. At what point did you finally decide to pull the trigger and go balls deep with the build?

b.miller123 03-13-2012 03:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dasrider (Post 701420)
Off to a good start. At what point did you finally decide to pull the trigger and go balls deep with the build?

After a long night filled with beers and talk of motorcycles with a good friend who I am helping rebuild a superhawk with. He is kind of going the opposite way and ditching the cheap Chinese fairings that the previous owner put on (his bike was badly neglected) and replacing them with Mario Nava fairings from Italy. He's adding stuff and I'm taking it away :D

It is still hard to look at pictures of fully faired RC51's, but I know that ten years from now, I'll still be able to buy another one if I'd like. But building something that nobody else has, that is something that can't be replaced by a search on Craigslist or cycle trader. I just finally said f*ck it, I'll own this bike for as long as I can by choice. Might as well make it mine.

johnyisthedevil 03-15-2012 12:52 AM

glad to see I'm not the only one populating this area. looking forward to following along. seeing other people make some progress keeps the motivation up. I love build threads, especially real custom stuff, and not just the" hey I bolted on a shock" kinda things. good luck on the build.

b.miller123 03-15-2012 01:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnyisthedevil (Post 701610)
glad to see I'm not the only one populating this area. looking forward to following along. seeing other people make some progress keeps the motivation up. I love build threads, especially real custom stuff, and not just the" hey I bolted on a shock" kinda things. good luck on the build.

Actually, your thread was the catalyst that set this all off. I was showing it to my friend and that began the snowball effect. So a big thanks to you.

Got a little progress done today, no pics yet though. Just did a mock up with the rads and am messing around with the headlight for a bit. Did some cleaning, underneath the thermostat was filled with tiny pebbles and a couple very large dead insects.

I still have to order some braided hose for the oil lines, and I might do the quick disconnects on the fuel tank, so I'll need it for that too. I have to figure out which ends I want and the size for the fuel line. Gotta do some research on that part.

johnyisthedevil 03-15-2012 02:42 AM

I accept nooooo responsibility for the tear down of a pristine RC51 lol. just kidding. I got a lot of inspiration from customfighters.com forums. not so much in ideas, but a lot of builds getting updated very often. lots of good info floatin around on that site. lots of shit too, but there are a few real talented builders over there.

I don't think people realize how much extra work it is doing one of these threads along side a build, but well worth doing it. it's cool to see a bike being born and the unique ideas others come up with to common issues.


unfortunately I brought my project to a screeching halt (temporarily of course) 'cause I blew a good chunk of my budget bolting an Ohlins shock on my RC. lol (no thread required) but should return to making real progress soon.

b.miller123 03-15-2012 02:45 AM

Nice, I've spent more than I thought I would on a few things for sure.

Custom fighters is a great site. It is pretty cool what some of them come up with. Lots of guys doing crazy looking bikes with tons of billet and one-off parts.

Yeah, doing the thread at the same time is some work. I thought about posting this up on a few other forums including custom fighters, but I don't want to do 4 times the work. I'll just leave it here for now.

johnyisthedevil 03-15-2012 03:28 AM

yeah, I have mine up on CF too, but this is my favorite forum. so I kinda gave up on that for now. it's too bad you can't just copy and paste.

TLRSKUNK 03-16-2012 08:21 AM

You could go with a Ducati 916/996/998 tail and i bet those cans would fit just fine.
But considering that was the bike style the RC was beating back in the day it is kinda sacrilegious.

Slwcreepin 03-16-2012 02:43 PM

I like the 916/996/998 Ducati's and the roundness of the tail works, however i dont think it would look right on the bike. maybe once I see it mocked up it might grow on me but until I see it "I" wouldnt go that way. My .02 but it is your build and I cant wait to see it nonetheless.

Tacheny 03-16-2012 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by b.miller123 (Post 701631)
Custom fighters is a great site. It is pretty cool what some of them come up with. Lots of guys doing crazy looking bikes with tons of billet and one-off parts.

I agree, but for every 1 good build, there are 10 shitty ones. I'll never understand why people ruin the lines of a bike by shooting the tail up to the moon...

b.miller123 03-16-2012 03:51 PM

Yeah, the 916 tail won't be happening. Too many have done that before, and it is just not right.

Made a little progress the other night. Mocked up the rads and the headlight. I am waiting on a bunch of stuff to arrive. I just ordered bars and BRP Scotts sub mount so I can move the clipons, then I can make brackets for the headlight. I had ordered some standard clamps, but I don't think they will look right with the risers, but I'll keep them in case I ditch the scotts damper.

Anybody have a recommendation for a place to purchase AN fittings and hose? Or specific brands to purchase or stay away from? I need to get that stuff on order for the oil and fuel lines. I know places like summit and jegs carry all of it, just not sure if there are better/cheaper places out there.

I've been having dirty thoughts of cutting down one can and having a short exit on the right side like the 08+ CBR and R6's. Not too sure on that yet. Going to have to see what the tail would look like. Might have to go with a minimal tail like the 08+ CBR. Would make things much easier and cheaper in the exhaust department, and give me more room in the tail. It would be loud as shit, that's for sure.

Teaser pic from the other night:

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/h...2/865b5c23.jpg

VTR1000SP2 03-16-2012 07:57 PM


b.miller123 03-16-2012 09:02 PM

That is crazy.



Who makes it? :D

Waldo 03-17-2012 02:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by b.miller123 (Post 701938)
That is crazy.



Who makes it? :D

Looks like it is a company called Competition Werkes. I could not find it on their website.

johnyisthedevil 03-17-2012 03:48 AM

I always use aeroquip for a/n fittings and hose. I've had issues with Russel fuel line internally delaminating in the past. I get them wholesale from a friend, but it usually costs me some sort of ungodly obscure favor. That being said, jegs has pretty decent prices most of the time. I like the idea of the new cbr tail. I think that would fit the tank shape quite nicely, but that exhaust VTR1000SP2 posted up is pretty hot.

b.miller123 03-17-2012 05:36 AM

I have the 04-07 tail coming in the mail. I'll see how I like it and what it might look like with no exhaust. I would have to do something like metal scorpio and his 600rr tail.

b.miller123 03-17-2012 05:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Waldo (Post 701979)
Looks like it is a company called Competition Werkes. I could not find it on their website.

Hmmm, I knew they made undertails or fender eliminators or something like that, but not exhausts. I'll have to see if I can find one.

Waldo 03-17-2012 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by b.miller123 (Post 701996)
Hmmm, I knew they made undertails or fender eliminators or something like that, but not exhausts. I'll have to see if I can find one.

I sent them an email, will see what they say.

TLRSKUNK 03-19-2012 03:40 AM

That comp Werkes pipe came out for the 04-07 RR and got horrible reviews. They were having problems with the welds cracking constantly and stopped making it about a year after they came out.
If they had this problem with an Inline I can only imagine what an RC would do to that can.

http://www.1000rr.net/forums/showthread.php?t=39362
This guy has the thread about it failing. it is 25+ pages long... I read it already but you get the idea.


I researched it because I liked how clean it looked. This all happened shortly after I got my 1000rr.

b.miller123 03-20-2012 02:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TLRSKUNK (Post 702171)
That comp Werkes pipe came out for the 04-07 RR and got horrible reviews. They were having problems with the welds cracking constantly and stopped making it about a year after they came out.
If they had this problem with an Inline I can only imagine what an RC would do to that can.

CW EXHAUST installed! : Honda CBR 1000RR Motorcycle Forums: 1000RR.net
This guy has the thread about it failing. it is 25+ pages long... I read it already but you get the idea.


I researched it because I liked how clean it looked. This all happened shortly after I got my 1000rr.

Good to know. I like the style though, so I may have to try something like it if I go with a totally custom under-seat exhaust.

Maybe a little further down the line. Things are either going to speed up rather quickly as I try and get this back on the road, or slow down quite a bit. I received an offer after my interview. It was much more than I expected so that is good, just have do all the background check stuff and piss in a cup.

Minor detail: The job is 2000 miles away back in Washington. They offer relocation, but they won't ship motorcycles with the household goods. They will ship my truck so I won't have to drive it, but that means paying out of pocket to ship the bike. I'd ship it stripped down and have the movers take the parts in boxes to avoid any issues. Or I can get paid to drive and haul the bike in the back of the truck. But the truck is a '93 yota with 200k on it and will *probably* make it just fine as it made it just fine down here three years ago hauling a trailer the whole way. I hate decisions like this.

I'll shoot you a PM about your and wingnutt's parts. This company is a very large aerospace company, so sometimes they move really slow with things. We probably have some time to work things out.

TLRSKUNK 03-20-2012 09:15 AM

If push comes to shove I will have my Older Bro grab the parts from you and have him hold onto them. then i will grab them from him. He is a bike guy as well.

bensexcessbikes 03-21-2012 01:24 AM

Any additional updates? :)

johnyisthedevil 03-21-2012 03:42 AM

strap the bike in the back of the truck and ship them together. lol strap her down tight and lock it up. or put it in boxes in the bed and put a cover over it. I'm sure there is some kind of creative way to get er done.

b.miller123 03-21-2012 04:02 PM

Only updates are that my BRP scotts mount/bar clamp came in. I've been busy with other stuff lately, so haven't had much time to work on it. Once my bars get in, I'll measure and order all new braided lines for the front and rear brakes and clutch from Spiegler. I'm also going to pick up a couple fork clamps from them for mounting the headlight, as it wasn't stable enough for my liking with brackets coming off the triple clamp.

I need to wrap up the radiators and order the stuff for the fuel and oil lines. I've been dragging ass with that.

Still waiting on my tail and a few small things to show up. Once I get the tail I'll figure out what I am going to do with the exhaust. I am picking up a Jardine 2-1, so that will make it easier either way I go (under tail or side exit). The side exit will negate a ton of work with rewiring the bike, as I will be able to fit everything back in the tail. I did order a Shorai battery though, so that will help fitting everything in there.



Quote:

Originally Posted by johnyisthedevil (Post 702418)
strap the bike in the back of the truck and ship them together. lol strap her down tight and lock it up. or put it in boxes in the bed and put a cover over it. I'm sure there is some kind of creative way to get er done.

Yeah, that might make it hard for them to get it on a carrier. I thought about maybe breaking down the bike and shipping it in pieces with the house stuff. The engine would be the hard part.

TLRSKUNK 03-22-2012 01:13 PM

Engine can go in the front seat of the truck for the trip. Ship everything else. re assemble.


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