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|05-17-2016 12:24 AM|
To add to bsess' excellent point.
Gigi made the Aprilia race teams world beaters with only Piaggio's money to support it. After the market crash, preceeded by the scooter market crash in Italy, Piaggio wasn't exactly swimming in cash all those successful years Gigi had with them. He knows how to get the right money, to pay for the right parts, and guide development to optimize available resources.
|05-14-2016 04:04 PM|
|05-14-2016 01:17 AM|
The translating of rider feedback and data into actual developmental improvements is both art and science and Gigi is, in the eyes of many, a true master in this regard and I believe he has the results to show for it both before and after taking over Ducati Racing. A long term beneficiary of Marlboro money, I think Ducati Corse was not lacking needing the "how much?" in terms of additional funding as much as the "know how" in terms of having the knowledge, skills, expertise and experience to successfully turning said funding into positive change and actual results.
The fact is that Ducati spent a huge fortune developing and racing their carbon fiber and frameless chassis designs starting back around 2009. Stoner was, as usual, the only one able to be reasonably competitive on the feedback absent POS, winning 7 races (4 in 2009 and 3 in 2010) whereas I think Rossi had only one podium during his two years with Ducati. It should also bear noting that Rossi not only imported most of his technical crew from Yamaha when he moved to Ducati but also brought with him a tanker-full of sponsorship money (along with the already existing flows of mucho Marboro mulah).
So during Rossi's two years at Ducati, there was absolutely no shortage of money, quality technical support or proven rider talent. Things only really began to significantly improve after Gigi took over and began implementing the changes he authored. I honestly believe that if Rossi were riding the Ducati now (or had Gigi behind him back in 2011/2012) he'd be winning (or would have won) races on the Ducati.
In the final analysis, the Audi money is undoubtedly a major factor but in my mind, the biggest difference maker is the Godfather of Speed, Don Gigi Dall'Igna...
|05-14-2016 01:05 AM|
|05-13-2016 10:39 PM|
Originally Posted by stk0308 View Post
Hm, I take your pt but IMO it's hard to put Gigi's contribution into perspective.
Taking a step back, before Gigi was there, remember who was there and not seeing any success. Rossi and Burgess.
Take a look back at a lot of Rossi's criticisms of the Ducati. One common thread, he was making the same complaints about the same things race after race after race. No improvement and no new parts developed or in development.
I believe Gigi has made a strong contribution but he has also enjoyed the enviable position of a more robust development budget. Gigi for all his brilliance isn't doing squat without Audi money. No money, no honey.
Now TBF, I could be wrong because the spotlight on Ducati's development regime isn't what it was when Rossi was there, but we aren't seeing reports of the same old woes they had when Rossi was there either.
In any event, whatever the ratio Gigi has been a positive contribution I'm just not certain it is on par with Audi's.
|05-10-2016 03:52 PM|
|05-10-2016 03:50 PM|
Originally Posted by imported_ICEMAN View Post
|05-10-2016 02:22 AM|
|Jami6989||What a perfectly timed synchronized wreck by Dovi and MM! Once a crasher, always a crasher! Just wish he would've taken out Rossi!|
|05-09-2016 06:13 PM|
|sqd8r||I won't be surprised if JLo wins on the Ducati; I'm betting heavily on it. If you pay close attention Ducati has quietly gone about improving its performance in WSC and MGP. The Audi investment is starting to materialize. The Ducati quiet improvements mirror IMO Audi's LeMan series successes, they quietly arrived and stayed there on top.|
|05-09-2016 01:51 AM|
Nice to Rossi come by and pass MM and Ianone straight up.... JLo is making the most of his last year at Yamaha, possibly his last championship shot.
Maverick wins the war of attrition and starts to pencil in his name on the Yamaha ride... Ianone is screwing himself over at Ducati
|05-09-2016 12:22 AM|
Suzuki on the podium. Congrats MV you are a hero!
While he didn't win, that ride from Rossi IMO was his best to date this season. To be duffed up at the start like that and work his way up to 2nd was brilliant. vintage Rossi.
JLo - the metronome is back and imperious.
MM - I've never seen a Honda lacking in acceleration like that, leading to more than average, even for MM, front tire abuse. Partially his undoing. Coupled with Dani's frontend mishap last race Honda is in trouble.
Iannone - now in a dogfight with CalC for the Xaus Man of the Year award.
CalC - anything Iannone can do I can do it again, and again, and again and...
|05-08-2016 01:55 PM|
Lolly a masterful display again. Truly, the most formidable racer when he gets out front like that. Fantastic.
MM and Dovi - I would say quite unlucky as I can only assume they hit a bad spot to go down like that. I was thinking oil, but why didn't it affect the others? Weird.
Anyway a great result for Yamaha with JL now ahead in the championship and Rossi right there with MM. Felt sorry for the Ducatis, who just can't seem to string it together.
I think Iannone has done himself a huge disservice in this race by crashing out as he did. More so than Dovi's mistake.....and I think this may end up being the deciding factor for Ducati on who to keep next year - Dovi. We'll see.
|05-07-2016 03:40 PM|
At the end of Q2, Marquez' Honda registered the 11th slowest maximum speed of 306 km/h (just barely edging out the last place Suzuki of Espargaro who hit 305.8 km/h). The factory Ducatis and Yamahas ahead of him have a 5-8 km/h top speed advantage here which wouldn't necessarily be such a bad thing if the problem wasn't compounded by the low speed acceleration issues.
I see Lorenzo running away....
|05-07-2016 07:29 AM|
I think the race will again depend on the tire selection and traction issues and who can manage that the best.
The Honda has less mechanical grip than the Yamaha, and, I believe less torque at lower RPM, so loses out on acceleration. MM is having to ride around this and manage it the best he can. He's been doing a fantastic job of it, and CLEARLY has learned his lesson from last years' multiple crashes. Good for him. He's certainly a bright young lad.
It's going to be interesting, for sure.
|05-06-2016 05:51 PM|
Lemans MotoGP Spoiler
So far, Lorenzo is looking comfortably dominant and should be considered the early favorite. Based on rider comments so far this year and when comparing sector times between 2014 and today, it's quite clear that the Factory Hondas have lost one of their strongest principal performance advantages which was drive and acceleration coming out off of slow and medium speed corners. I think the two remaining podium spots will be a 5-way battle between the two Andreas, Marquez, Vinales and Rossi who, despite being off to a slow start in today's practice sessions, will no doubt get himself up to speed between tomorrow practices/qualifying and Sunday's race. Vinales' teammate is also looking stronger and more confident on the Suzuki every race weekend....
The weather forecast for Sunday's race is around 74 degrees with only a 10% chance of rain.