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08-17-2018 04:57 PM
monicashatzer Os parafusos de ignição são algum tipo do parafuso anti-roubo, têm um modelo na cabeça que o deixa apertá-los mas não se desatar e endurecem-se.. provavelmente não despido, somente não destinado tirar-se! De único caminho escapei o cilindro-chave foi com o triplo superior da bicicleta, usei um instrumento dremel para cortar uma fenda nos parafusos e pôr uma grande chave de fenda de cu em um torno de bancada e produzi eles.
08-08-2018 06:02 AM
antonferdinand I have read everyone's suggestion and i would prefer to visit locksmith walnut creek near for the key. They will get me easily than the dealer at reasonable cost.
09-06-2016 08:19 AM
peterbram Bring your title into harley dealer they can cut you a key or get you a key code that a Locksmith can use to make you your key. Remove ignition lock and take it to a locksmith and they will make you a key.
08-08-2016 06:46 AM
jimcarry If you have your spare key you can have another made at a Locksmith. Otherwise, I believe you will need to replace the ignition. At least that is what my 2006 450 manual says.
Good luck.
06-01-2016 08:08 AM
jacksonlee I recently bought a new-to-me 2010 ram w/the 5.7 hemi. Recently it has been getting difficult to get the ignition to trigger the starter. The key turns easily and everything feels good, but sometimes I have to remove the key and reinsert it or turn it very hard to get it to start.Then i call Davie Locksmith and they resolve my problem within 15 minutes.
10-18-2008 12:50 AM
2theMax
F'in Finally!!

Got a key cut that works! I tried a new locksmith and took him the seat lock and told him to cut it by the code and it works...think the first guy used the wrong key blank.

So the seat lock code will work for the others. Thanks again for the replies
09-19-2008 10:32 PM
RCPhil
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Originally Posted by 2theMax View Post
RCPHIL I did what you did and it didn't work

JES VFR, so the top triple will come off witht the steering locked? And I was quoted 250 for a lock set from honda...Have you worked on a RC's ignition? What are the two bolts that hold it in? Are they some special tool?
Sorry to hear it didn't work for you. Did they use the code on the lock to cut the key or did they use the lock itself? The locksmith I had do it used the code from the lock and it worked perfectly, of course as someone else stated, if someone changed the lock then it wouldn't work, on the other hand, if your ignition key opened the rear section, then chances are they never changed the lock so it should have worked.

I hope you get it solved. A locksmith can make the key without any code ans that was what I was prepared to have done. The locksmith came to my house and by the time he started I already had the rear lock out and he just used the code.

Good luck.
09-19-2008 05:15 PM
b.miller123 $138 for a lock set: Motorcycle Parts|ATV Parts|Honda|Kawasaki|Suzuki|Yamaha|Dealer|Tires|Re pair Manuals|Wholesale Discount Prices


Just take the triple off and take it to the dealer. If they still can't make you a key, then you already have it off and it will be easier for a locksmith to make a key for it of rekey it (along with all your other stuff)
09-19-2008 02:16 PM
Jes_VFR
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Originally Posted by 2theMax View Post
RCPHIL I did what you did and it didn't work

JES VFR, so the top triple will come off witht the steering locked? And I was quoted 250 for a lock set from honda...Have you worked on a RC's ignition? What are the two bolts that hold it in? Are they some special tool?
First off did the lock that you took to the shop work with the new key. Because it sounded like you were not sure that the shop cut the key by the code, instead cutting it by the seat lock. That is why we insist on getting the Ignition lock at our dealership to confirm the correct cut of the key.

Second, Yes I had to replace my locks on my RC right from the get go since they were all buggered by the thieves. I'm guessing that it was not the first time the lock had been out of the bike since the two allen bolts holding it in were only coated with blue loctite.
09-19-2008 11:05 AM
2theMax RCPHIL I did what you did and it didn't work

JES VFR, so the top triple will come off witht the steering locked? And I was quoted 250 for a lock set from honda...Have you worked on a RC's ignition? What are the two bolts that hold it in? Are they some special tool?
09-19-2008 04:17 AM
Jes_VFR
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Originally Posted by RCPhil View Post
Let me say once again from experience. I had the same problem. I loosened the tail section and was able to remove the cowl cover by popping the latch with a screwdriver once I had the tail section fasteners removed. After that, I removed the lock assembly and a locksmith used those numbers to make a key. It works fine.
I guess I should have made myself clearer, when I said bring the ignition lock.
There are two reasons for this.
1. It offers a little more in the way of proof of owner ship, than just the tail lock. Hell it took a mechanic about 5 seconds to pop the seat lock out of the tail section of my RC, when I bought it. But it took many minutes to extract the top triple clamp to replace the lock.
2. Knowing the key code is not always enough, I mean if someone changed the tumblers out before when messing with the lock, then the key code is no good either. Then even if the new key is perfectly cut to the code, it won't work.
If you take the lock with you, when they cut the new key you can try it right away.
09-19-2008 03:41 AM
RCPhil
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Originally Posted by Munky View Post
I believe that Honda has 7 tumblers. The seat lock unit only has 2 of the seven.

Also see if you can get one of those dentist mirrors and take a sneak a peek a loo under the ignition barrel. The numbers are on the barrel but they face towards the steering head.

Hope this helps.


ian
Let me say once again from experience. I had the same problem. I loosened the tail section and was able to remove the cowl cover by popping the latch with a screwdriver once I had the tail section fasteners removed. After that, I removed the lock assembly and a locksmith used those numbers to make a key. It works fine.
09-19-2008 02:57 AM
Jes_VFR I work at a honda dealership and you have three choices.

1. Assuming that you are not able to pick your lock, unbolt the untire upper clamp from the forks and steering stem and firmly tap it upwards from below with a block of wood (this will allow it to come up even though the fork lock is engaged). Then take the whole assembly to the dealer where they can read the lock code from the cylinder and make you a new key. My store does it all the time. (we only charge for the key blanks when we have the code off the ignition lock cylinder). At my store this will run from $6 (for the plain jane Ilco blank) to $28 (for one of the fancy OEM honda blanks)
2. Buy an new ignition lock from honda, smash the old lock's tumblers with a big assed screw driver until you can force it open then replace it with the new one and then take the gas cap and seat lock into a dealer and get them to reset the tumblers to match the new ignition key's coding. This will run you $75 to a $100 bucks.
3. Just buy a complete lock set from the dealer and replace all of them. this will run you about $185.

I have done #1 twice on my VFR. Thieves left me with option three on the RC and I juggled the tumblers on a gas cap today for another customer.

Where are you?
09-19-2008 01:54 AM
bafflebrain Have you tried removing the top triple clamp and ignition lock together?

There is no need to remove the ignition lock from the triple clamp - just take the whole thing to a Honda dealer and the can cut a new key from the number stamped on the barrel. You still need to bring the ignition lock so they can test the new key.
09-18-2008 11:46 PM
Munky I believe that Honda has 7 tumblers. The seat lock unit only has 2 of the seven.

Also see if you can get one of those dentist mirrors and take a sneak a peek a loo under the ignition barrel. The numbers are on the barrel but they face towards the steering head.

Hope this helps.


ian
09-18-2008 05:34 AM
lmpb Yeah, that trunk lock probably has less tumblers than the ignition.

Here's A way to get the key:

Take a miniture flat blade screwdriver and put a slight turning force on the lock cylinder while raking the tumblers with a lock pick shaped ground hacksaw blade. This will eventually get all the tumblers to hang up on the edge of the cylinder and the switch will turn towards the off position. Leave it half way between.

Then take the lock assembly out and take it apart in whichever way it's held together, usually there is a staked coller or a pin driven through the side of the assembly that holds the cylinder into the lock housing. Make sure you keep track of the lower tumblers, as far as to which hole they came out of. The upper tumblers and the tension springs are all the same.

Put a blank key into the cylinder and drop in the first tumbler. File that spot of the key blank until the tumbler is flush with the cylinder. Do this for all five tumblers (or however many there are) and wala, you have a key that fits all the locks. Its a one sided key but that's not a problem. You could always file both sides.

This way works, I've done it many times. And it only cost the price of a blank. Good luck.
09-18-2008 05:10 AM
b.miller123 Either just buy a new lock set (about $140 online), or just take the triple off and take it into the dealer and get them to make you a key. I think the locksmith you had might be an idiot, or the tumbler assembly on the ignition uses a tumbler that the other's don't (probably more likely)

You can get the triple clamp off. All you have to do is put the rear on a stand, put a jack under the oil pan (or hoist the bike from the rafters or something) and then pull the forks off, the remove the nut from the top triple clamp, then lower the lower triple down until the stem is below the top triple and pull it off. Take that to a honda dealer and get a new key (or two)


Or if you have a dremel, just get everything out of your way up front and just take the heads off the screws holding the ignition on.

Or just take the bike to a shop and have them find the code with all the crap still on the bike if you don't feel like doing any work. It might be a pain to get the bike into the back of a truck, but it's probably easier that all the other stuff I just said. Otherwise you are going to have to pay up and have a locksmith do it without removing anything.

I bet that you wont ever have just one key to a vehicle anymore? That was the first thing that I did when I got mine, had three new keys made.
09-18-2008 12:05 AM
2theMax
still no key

I still dont have a damn key!!! Honda cant make a key with just the vin or title. Theres no key codes with the vin number. I called two different honda shops and one locksmith told me the same thing, so...I popped the pass. seat off and took the lock out of that. It has a code on it and another member RCPhil told me that would work. I took it so a locksmith he cut a key for me that unlocks the tail lock but no ignition or gas cap I dont know if he used the code on the lock or just cut it some other way...Im so pissed I can feel winter coming and I want to ride my damn bike Im just going to look online for a good locksmith and send him my tail lock, youd think that would work right???
09-04-2008 09:48 PM
b.miller123 You need a bigger hammer.
09-04-2008 01:54 AM
2theMax na the bike isnt stolen and I got a locksmith coming to look at it and I'll mention to him that the pass. seat lock will work. I called the local honda shop and they said they need the ignition to get the numbers off of it. If that doesn't work then I'll just take the title and registration to another honda shop...Heard a couple people say that just the vin will work. Thanks again for your replies
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