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post #1 of 15 (permalink) Old 04-16-2008, 02:36 AM Thread Starter
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Front mount Rad/lower fairing problem

Got them on but can't get the (Sharkskinz) lower on. It looks like I have to cut all the front of the lower out. Does anyone have them mounted without cutting out the front of the lower fairing?

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Jusyt can't get everything to fit!!!

I messed with the oil lines for two days and got the right length and fitting angles.
I used the smaller battery with thorstens carbon relocater.
I got everything as in as tight as I could.
I cut the fairing out in front.
But still can't get the lower on smothly without pushing and scratching.
I'm def going to get a smaller oil cooler in the future but this setp is supposed to fit.
Does anyone see something I don't?
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Looks like the battery box is holding it off some. I think it's normal to have to cut away most of the lower front fairing for this mod. But, that does look a little too far forward on the bottom.

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I agree w/ terry... when i send u the brackets this week, i send u my mark-up battery bracket. you can try, see if things fit better with it... as i have no need for it

u did a nice job with those hoses... are they causing you problems..?
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That is just the way the KYAR kit is.


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I can't help with your problem, but i just wanted to say that bike is looking sharp. Keep up the good work. BTW, i don't think its much of a big deal to cut out the front of the lower either. I've always run my RC(s) without the front damn. Helps the bike stay cooler, can reduce temps more quickly in the city driving, and saves my legs from feeling like they are getting burned. Oh, and keeps the fuel in the tank cooler.<--noticed the fuel tank went from being 'hot' during a long ride to being 'mildly warm' to 'cool'.
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Hey AVR89,

I replied this morning and then I Erased it because I wasn't sure of what I was talking about... As I do NOT have "Front mount Rads." However the CRAZY thing is... everything I pointed out that I thought I remembered... I Did actually Remember!
In this picture you will see the FRIST thing that I had pointed out..

#1,Your oil cooler line that is going up the back of the side rad., I wouldn't do it like this, as You're Blocking some air flow there! :twocents Look at the pic. above.. The front Oil Cooler Line is angled Up and Over the oil filter and run up between the side water rad. and the oil cooler connecting up top.

#2 I noticed even though it is really hard to see in your pic. it looks like you're runnning the bottom radi. hose out around the bottom of the oil cooler,..? Don't do that... run it under and connect between the side rad., and oil cooler..?

#3, you are going to HAVE TO.. by the looks of (again) your pic., How in the World will you ever connect the front upper rad. to the side rad.,?
Your side rad. needs to move back (can't move it back with your oil cooler line,= means relocate said oil cooler line) and or the Front rad. Needs to move forward.

#4, The last thing I Know You should do and that is no matter what you need to put a shorter bolt in the side of the side rad., next to oil cooler line(post#3 picture #3) as that will most likely hit the fairing...

I Hope this helps.

Peace Jeff

PS. I can see these rads. are diff. from yours, however oil cooler line should still be redirected.. so it runs UP Over the oil filter then up between the coolers.
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Looks like the battery box is holding it off some. I think it's normal to have to cut away most of the lower front fairing for this mod. But, that does look a little too far forward on the bottom.

BTW... love your "shop"! Man after my own heart.
Yeah, It's reall tight by the battery with not much room. I cut the whole front of the lower, it's the sides of the fairing that are rubbing.
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I agree w/ terry... when i send u the brackets this week, i send u my mark-up battery bracket. you can try, see if things fit better with it... as i have no need for it

u did a nice job with those hoses... are they causing you problems..?
I'll def give it a try. The lines came out good but I don't like how everything is touching/rubbing. That can't be good with all the vibration of this V-twin. Thanks for the hand!

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I can't help with your problem, but i just wanted to say that bike is looking sharp. Keep up the good work. BTW, i don't think its much of a big deal to cut out the front of the lower either. I've always run my RC(s) without the front damn. Helps the bike stay cooler, can reduce temps more quickly in the city driving, and saves my legs from feeling like they are getting burned. Oh, and keeps the fuel in the tank cooler.<--noticed the fuel tank went from being 'hot' during a long ride to being 'mildly warm' to 'cool'.
Thanks a lot buddy. Appreciate the compliment. I got a lot of help from HeavyZee, and I'm running his race harness!
I must say I've learned a ton on this site from all the guys here and it's insipred me to do all this.
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Hey AVR89,

I replied this morning and then I Erased it because I wasn't sure of what I was talking about... As I do NOT have "Front mount Rads." However the CRAZY thing is... everything I pointed out that I thought I remembered... I Did actually Remember!
In this picture you will see the FRIST thing that I had pointed out..

#1,Your oil cooler line that is going up the back of the side rad., I wouldn't do it like this, as You're Blocking some air flow there! :twocents Look at the pic. above.. The front Oil Cooler Line is angled Up and Over the oil filter and run up between the side water rad. and the oil cooler connecting up top.

Yeah I don't like that it's touching. But the oil filter area is all jamed up with the starter relay. What I have to do is get a shorter oil cooler this way I can maybe run the line behind the header once I heat wrap it.

#2 I noticed even though it is really hard to see in your pic. it looks like you're runnning the bottom radi. hose out around the bottom of the oil cooler,..? Don't do that... run it under and connect between the side rad., and oil cooler..?

I"m not running it like that, just threw it on there for a minute. It won't even fit. It would get in the way of the fairing. The oil cooler is pretty much touching the fairing as is.

#3, you are going to HAVE TO.. by the looks of (again) your pic., How in the World will you ever connect the front upper rad. to the side rad.,?
Your side rad. needs to move back (can't move it back with your oil cooler line,= means relocate said oil cooler line) and or the Front rad. Needs to move forward.

#4, The last thing I Know You should do and that is no matter what you need to put a shorter bolt in the side of the side rad., next to oil cooler line(post#3 picture #3) as that will most likely hit the fairing...

Yeah again I just threw it on to hold in place. I'll be doing some changes and tightening.
Thanks for all the imput, Ill mess around a bit and post more pics when I'm DONE.


Peace Jeff

PS. I can see these rads. are diff. from yours, however oil cooler line should still be redirected.. so it runs UP Over the oil filter then up between the coolers.

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That is just the way the KYAR kit is.
Yeah with the race harness and battery relocation it's pretty tight. What brand of oil cooler did you change to? I looked around a bit (Earl's and Setrab) but not sure what to go with. And how small is too small?

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Hey AVR89,

Other then the "KYAR" set-up, which I think comes with a oil cooler..?

I thought ALL the guys that have the front mount rads. were running their OEM oil cooler, Yes\No?
So this is a First for me about this as I've never heard anyone else have a problem with their "Oil Cooler" size..

Jason & Will, & (I know there's a mess of others, I just can't think who at the moment)
are you guys not running with the OEM oil cooler?

Just trying to Help AVR89 here, with alittle more input..

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Yeah with the race harness and battery relocation it's pretty tight. What brand of oil cooler did you change to? I looked around a bit (Earl's and Setrab) but not sure what to go with. And how small is too small?
Just seeing this now...

My oil cooler is hand built, one off.

I was using a Earls before that and it worked great...until I ruined it with metal shavings from my grenade....

You could easily get away with the 8x3 Earls (or Setrab) as they are way more effecient than the stock one, as well as being larger. I used the 13x3 as it was available locally.

In truth, I think that the stock one may in fact be adequate if you can manage to get the lines sorted out.


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Got them on but can't get the (Sharkskinz) lower on. It looks like I have to cut all the front of the lower out. Does anyone have them mounted without cutting out the front of the lower fairing?
Did you ever get that oil cooler to fit?
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