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post #21 of 33 (permalink) Old 04-25-2007, 03:15 PM
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Unless you're going on the dyno for a custom map and you need
the A/F ratio, why bother doing the PAIR mod? It doesn't make
the bike any faster ....
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post #22 of 33 (permalink) Old 04-25-2007, 03:22 PM
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It's worth it just for getting rid of all the clutter.

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Unless you're going on the dyno for a custom map and you need
the A/F ratio, why bother doing the PAIR mod? It doesn't make
the bike any faster ....

True, but gets rid of alittle weight, and most of all, (for me anyhow) gets rid of a CRAP LOAD of a mess of hoses! From the engine compartment.

I hope this helps
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It's worth it just for getting rid of all the clutter.
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Did the valve covers get removed in this mod? If so, it is very easy to overlook the alignment and of those washers that go with the odd shaped valve cover bolts. If one thing is wrong with those washers it will create a poor seal and that is all it takes to turn the RC engine into a good HD like gusher. The service manual is very specific about what bolt and washer goes where and how much to torque everything. It doesn't take much to mess it up. I speak from experience. When I put my 00 Rc engine back together after a transmission overhaul, the only error I made was overlooking the details of those valve cover bolts and their accompanying washers. As a result, and I suspected it would happen because I could see that the gasket was not getting a good equal seal, was a massive oil leak immediately after the initial start up.

I retraced my steps, found the what I thought to be an insignificant washer, installed it to the T as the manual described, and the leak is gone.

I hope this is remotely related to your issues and helps you out. If not, then at least those who tackle things like this in the future will no know that RC valve covers are nothing at all like a typical car/truck/SUV valve cover... they require extra attention to detail and are very sensitive to the slightest miss step in reinstallation.
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Apparently it helps get rid of the popping with aftermarket pipes when you roll off the throttle also - definitely made a diff on mine.

Area51racer - shit that was a good time for Boston, really good - especially in the crap weather we had this year - way to go!

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The valve cover did not come off, but thanks for the tip. I reconnected the case breather to the air box, I hope that will relieve the pressure and stop the leak. I looked at Varium's post and I may have to chat with him to see what exactly he did to stop his leak. It was something to do with O rings under the pair cover.


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The valve cover did not come off, but thanks for the tip. I reconnected the case breather to the air box, I hope that will relieve the pressure and stop the leak. I looked at Varium's post and I may have to chat with him to see what exactly he did to stop his leak. It was something to do with O rings under the pair cover.
If you didn't take off your valve cover and your bike was running fine before then its not what they were talking about in Varium's thread. The O-ring they're talking about fits around a hollow metal dowel that goes between the valve cover and the head. Its hollow because its where the air goes from the pair system into the exhaust. And the o-ring keeps oil out of the pair system. You would have had to remove your valve cover to have done anything with that o-ring.
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If you didn't take off your valve cover and your bike was running fine before then its not what they were talking about in Varium's thread. The O-ring they're talking about fits around a hollow metal dowel that goes between the valve cover and the head. Its hollow because its where the air goes from the pair system into the exhaust. And the o-ring keeps oil out of the pair system. You would have had to remove your valve cover to have done anything with that o-ring.
Exactly ! I had thesame problem with my SP1
It was smoking oil and the airbox was very greasy.

One of the O-rings went missing and the guy at the stealership forgot to put it back !
I found out when I took the engine apart to check why it was smoking/using up oil.....

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I see...

Thanks for the pic! Well its not an O ring issue, I'll take the bike out this weekend and see what happens. Cross your fingers.


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My observant and experienced eye tells me that [email protected] has removed his cam silencing gears. Anyone else notice that. Just wondering
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The valve cover did not come off, but thanks for the tip. I reconnected the case breather to the air box, I hope that will relieve the pressure and stop the leak. I looked at Varium's post and I may have to chat with him to see what exactly he did to stop his leak. It was something to do with O rings under the pair cover.
Can you possibly send me to Varium's post? I might be having a problem with my o rings but cant find his post.
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Not to try to hijack the OP's thread, but I just did the PAIR mod last week. When I did it, I left the flame arrestor and check valve in place and simply sealed the hose fitting on the check valve covers. I'm assuming that's acceptable and will seal properly. Yes?

When I reassembled it, I used a bike inner tube to seal all the holes but reattached the stock airbox drain. Again, this is acceptable, correct?

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