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post #1 of 15 (permalink) Old 12-22-2005, 06:29 PM Thread Starter
 
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amsoil question

Hey guys, just found out that my dads neighbor has a line on getting amsoil products at dealer cost, my question is, what synthetic type of amsoil do you use.
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I've bought the 20W50 full synthetic. Haven't used it yet. I will after I rebuild my old engine.

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I am currently using it, 10W40, can't tell the differance from dyno oil however I have no way of knowing if there is less wear going on, bike shifts the same, oh well.
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20w 50 amsoil all the way
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Its a good idea to use 100% synthetic oil in any motor, which is what amsoil is.
If you can get it for a deal then great! I've ran their motorcycle oil, I believe it was a 10W40, no problems.
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Synthetic should let the M/C start easier in the winter too.
Syn oil doesn't thicken with cold as bad as 'dino' oil.
Use the Amsoil for wet clutches if your bike has a wet clutch
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Synthetic should let the M/C start easier in the winter too.
Syn oil doesn't thicken with cold as bad as 'dino' oil.
I guess the standards ratings on the oil (i.e. 20/50, 5/30) has nothing to do with warm and cold viscosity.


As for 20/50 its not a very good choice for winter. 20/50 is old school thinking and a 10/40 synthetic is plenty. Synthetics handle heat better than Dino oil. That was the #1 reason for heavy oils. Now thats no longer true. I am guilty of using 20/50 but only in the summer because even though syns handle heat better I still wanted to be sure under 230 deg. engine temps.
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I guess the standards ratings on the oil (i.e. 20/50, 5/30) has nothing to do with warm and cold viscosity.

Isn't the standards ratings done at standard operating temperature?

i could be wrong but you could test my theory.

Pour 8 ounces of 'dino' 10/40 and the same of synthetic 10/40 in different plastic cups.
Put both cups in the freezer over night.
Next day remove both from freezer and pour both cups out at the same time
See which one finishes first.

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Ok I'll give you the extreme test nod. As a general rule one could assume syns flow more easily under extremely cold conditions well below 32*. However, modern multi weight oils are complex and defy the old paradymes.



"An oil sold as 10w-40 is no thicker than 10 weight oil under Winter (10w) conditions, meaning below freezing. The 40 means it is no thinner than 40 weight oil at 212 Fahrenheit. So, the first number tells us the performance of the oil at or below the temperature of freezing water, and the second number tells us the performance at the temperature of boiling water. The chemicals added to the oil to accomplish this are called Viscosity Index Improvers (VIIs)". Shear values are a different world and owned by synthetics.

Some other pretty compeling info for the use of synthetics are also found on this site http://motorcycleinfo.calsci.com/Oils1.html

Remeber I am pointing out the flow at 32* which is the limit of 20/50 oils recommended use. Temps below that would require a lower "W" rating.

Ah another oil thread.
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Ok I'll give you the extreme test nod. As a general rule one could assume syns flow more easily under extremely cold conditions well below 32*. However, modern multi weight oils are complex and defy the old paradymes.......................................Ah another oil thread.
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I'm running 5w30 full syth castrol superbike oil with no probs
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I'm running 5w30 full syth castrol superbike oil with no probs
And you should be fine. Some like to use ligther oil thinking its better to have flow over heat properties since Synthecis don't break down as easily and they change oil on shorter intervals.
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Works for me.

I run Amsoil in my RC51, Saturn, and K-10. I probably wouldn't if I wasn't getting it at cost but still should. The 35K intervals on oil changes in my car and 25K in my truck are just plain too good to pass up. And being an Amsoil user in my track bikes since the first F-2's I can say that it always kept my lil' 600's bullet proof. Maybe I'd have gotten the same results from standard oils, but I'm not messing with what has worked for me for years. I only wish I'd have been using it as a kid in my 2-stroke Elsinore's.


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