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Old 10-21-2007, 11:14 PM
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Mmmm. Very Nice.

Rear subframes bent but.
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How can you tell the subframe is bent?
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Old 10-22-2007, 02:25 AM
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How can you tell the subframe is bent?
Elementary, my dear Grasshopper.

Take a close look at the mufflers and rear wheel...
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I love the front fender! I might have to choop mine that small!!! It is nice though!
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is that dude high? 25k for a bike without a title and apparently a bent subframe?
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is that dude high? 25k for a bike without a title and apparently a bent subframe?
I hope you are kidding.

Jesus god that bike is something. Mine is styled after the FBF racers - it has the AGIP and FBF stickers, black wheels, the last owner even had the forks anodized gold to look like Ohlin's SBK items.
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Elementary, my dear Grasshopper.

Take a close look at the mufflers and rear wheel...
You do know that the muffler may not have been aligned properly right???... Have you ever taken or replaced your exhaust and put it all back together with your mufflers looking a little tweaked?

25K is a steal for that bike
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Old 10-23-2007, 11:49 PM
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Rear subframes bent...
Garage tip-over, no doubt...

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Old 10-24-2007, 09:28 AM
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Looks a bit tatty and a bitsa to me - the condition of the yokes would make me nervous...

What about this on ebay.co.uk?

Find DUCATI FACTORY RACE 996RS USA AMA HMC TEAM BIKE on eBay within, Ducati, Motorcycles Scooters, Cars, Parts Vehicles (end time 24-Oct-07 22:43:51 BST)
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You do know that the muffler may not have been aligned properly right???... Have you ever taken or replaced your exhaust and put it all back together with your mufflers looking a little tweaked?

25K is a steal for that bike
A LITTLE tweaked?

Now come on.

No-one could fnck it up that bad...
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A LITTLE tweaked?

Now come on.

No-one could fnck it up that bad...
I emailed the seller and.....

Thank you very much for the information. As the owner of an online forum myself I know how speculation can run rampant and most of the time without cause or merit and based solely on speculation.

You are correct in assumption of the exhaust can alignment as the cause, but what I do will is the following to dispel any speculation. This coming saturday morning I will take measurements from hard points on the frame to the rear of the subframe to show it is not bent. The metal straps (with rubber inserts) that hold the cans to the subframe often do not get centered on the can when reinstalling the exhaust system. I spent a lot of time at their shop back in the 90's when I was racing my old 916. Also, the hard point on the right side of the frame behind the passenger foot peg that attaches the center section of the 3 piece exhaust system is part of the culprit because that hard point can throw off the direction of the pipes once the rear section of the pipes slide into that section (held together with springs).

I'll post some pics and measurements over on the website you mentioned. Thanks again for the heads up.

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Wow. What a guy. No really, I'm impressed. ( And I'm 12,000 miles away.)

You'd better ask him to check the rear fairing mounting points too because that's as far off centre as the pipes...
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Looks a bit tatty and a bitsa to me - the condition of the yokes would make me nervous...
Some of you guys need to stay away from old racebikes...they aren't very pretty while they're being used. And later, well...

This is a rough cast racing top yoke. Not final machined for aesthetics. It does a job.




I remember standing in the garages at Mosport during the '90 WSB race. Ferracci was there with his new rider ,Doug Polen. One of the Italian teams running an RC-30 was having a problem. They overheated an engine and popped the head gasket. Erraldo was showing the guy a field fix. He was flat filing the top of one of the blocks with a draw file. Aluminum filings going everywhere, two guys jabbering 100 mph in Italian....it was worth the price of admission!

Racing ain't always pretty...

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+ 100%.

Race bikes work on the 50/50 rule.

They look great from 50 yards away or going 50mph.
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Race bikes work on the 50/50 rule.

They look great from 50 yards away or going 50mph.
Hee Hee Heeee....I'll have to remember that one

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Some of you guys need to stay away from old racebikes...they aren't very pretty while they're being used. And later, well...

This is a rough cast racing top yoke. Not final machined for aesthetics. It does a job.





Racing ain't always pretty...

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Gee, thanks for that insight - guess I was right to sell my ex WSB 750's then? Maybe I should stop working on the ex WSB and WSS bikes for my customers then, as well?

The yokes have been exposed to UV for some considerable time with no protective surface finish and are likely to be suffering from embrittlement.

Factory mag yokes normally have a chromate finish for UV protection.
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I have to agree with Millemille, the chromate conversion protective coating that was originally on these triple clamps is gone, and they are now prone to corrosion.
The chromate coating is not for UV protection, but for protection from oxidation, caused by exposure to the atmosphere (air/moisture).
For more information on chromate conversion coatings see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromat...ersion_coating

Magnesium is very porous and corrodes from the inside out. So an important structural part like a wheel or a triple clamp can appear to be ok on the outside, but ready to fail on the inside. The only way to tell for sure is to x-ray the part.

Ducati used the chromate conversion coating on early magnesium triple clamps. It has a clear gold hue, and looks like Marchesini wheels from the same time period that had the same coating. The coating is not very durable and degrades over time. It is not good to see bare magnesium that is grey/black in appearance.

Here is a triple clamp that still has most of the chromate coating left:
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Here is a triple clamp where the coating is starting to deteriorate:
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