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We have no power or leverage with the Mexicans given who sits in the White House.
What the hell would more leverage do? It's too big a problem to effectively manage from north of the border. It'll go on until Mexico ends corruption and pays their law people more than the cartels do.
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What the hell would more leverage do? It's too big a problem to effectively manage from north of the border. It'll go on until Mexico ends corruption and pays their law people more than the cartels do.

Leverage.... like stopping US tourism to Mexico until the place isn't a war zone would be very effective.

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Leverage.... like stopping US tourism to Mexico until the place isn't a war zone would be very effective.
Well, at least it's an idea. Not a great one though. 1, I don't think the U.S. gov. has the right to stop people from going where they want to go. 2, Mexico really needs those dollars - partly to fight crime. 3, Most of Mexico is safe. Where you go determines the level of danger.

Can you imagine the outrage if a U.S. pres. did what you propose? It's a no go.

Just curious: Why does Obama have reduced leverage in Mexico? Is that what they're currently pedalling on FUX?
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[QUOTE=Turd Ferguson;686531]Well, at least it's an idea. Not a great one though. 1, I don't think the U.S. gov. has the right to stop people from going where they want to go.(?..see below) 2, Mexico really needs those dollars - partly to fight crime. 3, Most of Mexico is safe. (Actually, most of Mexico is a train wreck.) Where you go determines the level of danger.

Can you imagine the outrage if a U.S. pres. did what you propose? It's a no go.
I'd say that this president would have made an adult decision and took action to defend the safety of AMERICAN citizens for a change.

Just curious: Why does Obama have reduced leverage in Mexico? (Because of complete incompetence.)

You're an idiot. Try travelling to Cuba.

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Those aren't answers. They're rhetoric.

As expected, your previous post is hot air.
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Those aren't answers. They're rhetoric.

As expected, your previous post is hot air.

I'll take being called full of hot air since its coming from you since it amounts to throwing in the intellectual towel. Moron.

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Whatever.

I don't have a lot of respect for someone who thinks it would be okay for a president to limit our travels. You're full of great ideas; you and Michelle "the fence" Bachmann. I still can't believe you like the fence idea. Ever seen a tall ladder...or a shovel? Mexicans can work a shovel.

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Whatever.

I don't have a lot of respect for someone who thinks it would be okay for a president to limit our travels. You're full of great ideas; you and Michelle "the fence" Bachmann. I still can't believe you like the fence idea. Ever seen a tall ladder...or a shovel? Mexicans can work a shovel.

I like the fence, the solders that should be guarding it and a nuclear power plant to electrify it.

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Ex-U.S. Attorney Burke admits to leaking whistle-blower's records

Former U.S. Attorney Dennis Burke has admitted that he leaked sensitive documents about a government agent who had emerged as the leading whistle-blower against the government's controversial gun-smuggling case known as Operation Fast and Furious. A letter sent by Burke's attorney Tuesday to the Justice Department's acting inspector general acknowledges that Burke divulged secret records containing information about John Dodson, a special agent with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.
Dodson came forward in January to expose an investigative strategy that allowed hundreds of guns to reach cartels in Mexico as part of a botched effort to identify drug kingpins. The scandal, which forced Burke's resignation in August, led to a congressional investigation and a probe by Acting Inspector General Cynthia Schnedar.

Who is Dennis Burke? Here's a snippet from his bio.

Burke has over 20 years of public service at both the Federal and State levels. Burke was most recently a Senior Advisor to Department of Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano. He served as Chief of Staff to Arizona Governor Janet Napolitano from 2003 to 2008. Prior to that position, he worked in the Arizona Attorney General's Office as the Chief Deputy Attorney General. He is a former Assistant United States Attorney for the District of Arizona prosecuting drug trafficking cases, was the Assistant Attorney General for Legislative Affairs at the United States Department of Justice, a Senior Policy Analyst for the White House Domestic Policy Council during the Clinton Administration and a Majority Counsel for the United States Senate Judiciary Committee, where he worked on three Supreme Court nominations, intellectual property as well as crime and law enforcement legislation.
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Whistle blowers should have full protection. That should be a cornerstone of our system.
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Whistle blowers should have full protection. That should be a cornerstone of our system.
Stream-of-consciousness puking out of nothingness.
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Seriously? I find it hard to believe anyone would disagree with my statement. So, seriously? You don't think whistle blowing is a good thing? At this point, I'll bet Joe Paterno would disagree with you. Poor Joe blew it (not the whistle). On Paterno, what I don't get is the students. Joe deserves to be fired, in fact, from the universities perspective he HAD to be fired. There will be court dates coming up, police investigations. The board of regents absolutley had to fire him. My BIG question is: Why didn't Joe immediately fire his assistant and tell him to never show his face on campus again? Then Joe should have called the cops like he's required to do. I don't think this mars his standing in the long run though. At least he told someone.






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Paterno was an enabler. It's worse than I thought. This DOES affect his standing in the long run.

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Wrong assumption.
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No doubt that Fast and Furious was an heinous act by the government to misrepresent guns smuggled into Mexico in an attempt to pass more gun laws.

Anti-Gun Sen. Dianne Feinstein: More Gun Regulations


Submitted by National Shooting Sports Foundation on Nov 8, 2011
At a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing last week, Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) once again defended ATF actions in Operation Fast and Furious while claiming, erroneously, that 70 percent of guns seized in Mexico were traced to the United States.
“The number of deaths caused by American guns are up in the tens of thousands,” she said, blaming U.S. gun laws for cartel-related violence in Mexico, and pushing for new regulations on law-abiding firearm retailers and purchasers.
Misinformation coming from Sen. Feinstein is of course nothing new, earlier this year Mrs. Feinstein was part of a trio of anti-gun senators– including Chuck Schumer (D-NY) and Sheldon Whitehouse (D-RI) – that released a report (“Halting US Firearms Trafficking to Mexico“) alleging that the number of firearms recovered in Mexico and traced to the United States was 70 percent. Though this unfounded claim represented a decrease from the gun-control lobby’s favorite 90 percent myth, it remains every bit as incorrect.

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No doubt that Fast and Furious was an heinous act by the government to misrepresent guns smuggled into Mexico in an attempt to pass more gun laws.

Anti-Gun Sen. Dianne Feinstein: More Gun Regulations

Submitted by National Shooting Sports Foundation on Nov 8, 2011
At a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing last week, Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) once again defended ATF actions in Operation Fast and Furious while claiming, erroneously, that 70 percent of guns seized in Mexico were traced to the United States.
“The number of deaths caused by American guns are up in the tens of thousands,” she said, blaming U.S. gun laws for cartel-related violence in Mexico, and pushing for new regulations on law-abiding firearm retailers and purchasers.
Misinformation coming from Sen. Feinstein is of course nothing new, earlier this year Mrs. Feinstein was part of a trio of anti-gun senators– including Chuck Schumer (D-NY) and Sheldon Whitehouse (D-RI) – that released a report (“Halting US Firearms Trafficking to Mexico“) alleging that the number of firearms recovered in Mexico and traced to the United States was 70 percent. Though this unfounded claim represented a decrease from the gun-control lobby’s favorite 90 percent myth, it remains every bit as incorrect.

Anti-Gun Sen. Dianne Feinstein: More Gun Regulations

+1. I firmly believer that was the case and they got busted.

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Mexico reports 9000+ police firearms missing...weapons legally purchased by Mexico from the US. Not the BS Story that Obama, Clinton and others have been peddling. There is a serious problem with Mexican military and police weapons winding up in criminal hands. Now there's proof.
Legal U.S. gun sales to Mexico arming cartels - CBS News

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ATF Documents are starting to become public. Holder's BS story is also coming apart according to CBS News.
ATF's own paperwork suggest that the aim was to target domestic gun sales policy.
Sickening.

Documents: ATF used "Fast and Furious" to make the case for gun regulations - CBS News Investigates - CBS News

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Watched that sh1thead lie thru his teeth to congress yesterday, fvcker should be locked up for a loooong time. ANOTHER criminal in barrys admin.


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