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Or start pulling our own oil/shale/NG out of the ground en-mass. This would stick it to OPEC and our good friends the Russians who's whole economy rides on the price of oil being high...

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We all would love to stick it to Russia and OPEC. BUT...
Our own oil costs a lot to extract because it's off shore, we've seen how closely they follow the rules, it takes at least seven years to produce from a new hole and there isn't enough to stick it to anyone anyway. Plus, why aren't they already drilling where they have permits? They don't have the equipment and they don't have the refining capacity. Besides, world supply is currently adequate. The biggest reason for high prices is speculator reaction to the ME spring. Announcing we are going to add a few drops to the world supply is going to do very little to change the price of oil.

Shale oil is a goddam horrible idea that uses massive amounts of water, creates big lakes of sludge and uterly destroys the landscape. That would be fine in central Arizona but in Montana or Utah, duh, no.

NG is a great possibility. BUT, again, if fracing is involved there are too many unknowns at this time. Without good long-term data I don't think it's a good idea to be injecting "secret" compounds 8,000 feet underground where it no doubt will leak up to groundwater levels (and there already IS methane and other crap leaking up in many areas of the country). Aquafers are already shrinking all over the country. Do we want to poison them too? Drillers tell us fracing is peachy but of course they are seeing dollar signs, not a glass of drinking water 30 years from now. It's got all the earmarks of a huge long-term mistake for a short-term benefit.

And, we all know what happens when we have more cheap energy. It stagnates development of clean fuels and high mileage cars.
Lots of penny wise and pound foolish in your plan, IMHO.

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You shouldn't try to reason around this issue, its beyond your ability to participate at an adult level....your fragmented rationale for not pursuing domestic energy is borderline retarded.

Oil companies aren't going after more sites at the moment because the political scene is pretty hostile their massive investments. One day they're allowed to operate, the next day they're being demonized by the aggitator in chief.

Oik companies aren't at fault for our situation, Washington DC is.

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You shouldn't try to reason around this issue, its beyond your ability to participate at an adult level....your fragmented rationale for not pursuing domestic energy is borderline retarded.

Oil companies aren't going after more sites at the moment because the political scene is pretty hostile their massive investments. One day they're allowed to operate, the next day they're being demonized by the aggitator in chief.

Oik companies aren't at fault for our situation, Washington DC is.
We already pursue domestic energy. We have been for a very long time. Why is the oil industry not drilling where they have permits to do so?

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We already pursue domestic energy. We have been for a very long time. Why is the oil industry not drilling where they have permits to do so?

Because of the simple fact that this political regime will allow a company to invest billions to drill or mine and then change its mind and attempt to shut them down over some environmental issue like the texas lizards that is in the news at the moment.

There's no committment by this administration to allow companies to pursue energy without being left to the environmentalists who'd push to shut them down at the blink of an eye.

In other words, nobody trusts Washington and their anti-business agenda.

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Because of the simple fact that this political regime will allow a company to invest billions to drill or mine and then change its mind and attempt to shut them down over some environmental issue like the texas lizards that is in the news at the moment.

There's no committment by this administration to allow companies to pursue energy without being left to the environmentalists who'd push to shut them down at the blink of an eye.

In other words, nobody trusts Washington and their anti-business agenda.
^+! To that I'd add, no one trusts Oh-Bomb-Us and his anti American policys.

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I really hate to show you girls this, but I feel I must - seeing how misinformed you are about domestic oil production. You might want to call all the folks who've been pulling your leg and let them know that you don't appreciate being used.

http://protectfloridasbeaches.org/pd...cas_energy.pdf

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Speaking of Lawsuits from the Environmentalists....

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It looks like the speculators caused oil price high. Why government doesn't regulate it? It starts five years ago when oil price was pushed to $147/barrel.

The real reason is:

556. Petro-dollar, the cause of Iran war (7/4/08)

People think the nuclear ambition of Iran is the reason for Iran war. That is only right on Israel's part. For US part, it is petro-dollar.

US dollar is appointed currency in oil trading. Because the oil trade is a huge business, a large amount of dollar is locked up in that trade. That money is called petro-dollar. Why it is so important to US? Because it acts as a long term none interest loan The prosperous US economy partly was based on the petro-dollar - a long term loan without interest. Let me depict it in this way:

US bought a house from Japan (whom represents the oil customers of Iran) for one million dollars. US also bought another house from France (whom represents other oil customers of OPEC) for one million dollars. Japan and France use these two million dollars as fund to buy oil. The money was used in oil trading circle and never back to US. US enjoys the two houses almost free. He doesn't have to pay monthly mortgage payment. Not a penny for interest, nor for principle. All the cost was the printing of a green back paper. However, that green back paper - petro dollar, is still a debit note. How long is it? So far it's more than forty years - since dollar became the appointed oil trade currency.

But suddenly, Iran refuses to accept dollar. Japan has to ask US to exchange that one million dollar into Euro or yen. What US can do is: 1. to get the dollar back by export more merchandise. But he is not able to. He has a trade deficit already. 2. To get the dollar back with gold or foreign currency reserve. But he hasn't that much reserve. 3. To lock up that extra one million dollar in US Bond by raising the interest rate to attract the buyer. But he unwilling to do it. There is a sub-prime crisis in real estate market. Any interest increase will further devalue the house. Feds holds a large amount of real estates in my case, they don't allow such thing to happen. So to solve the problem, they go to the fourth option. 4. By pushing up the oil price.

France (other oil consumption countries) keeps one million dollar as oil trading fund. How much does he need if the oil price doubled? Two million. Thus the one million dollar Japan abandoned is absorbed by France. That's why the oil price jumped like crazy in recent days - a tricky way to keep US dollar from collapsing.

US has to pay for high oil price too. Ordinary people bear the cost. But the high oil price will hurt the economy. The condition won't last long. So war on Iran is unavoidable.

Of course, US is a "democratic" country. It can't start a war because others refusing to use its currency. Then beware of another 911 style false flag attack.
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It looks like the speculators caused oil price high. Why government doesn't regulate it? It starts five years ago when oil price was pushed to $147/barrel.

The real reason is:

556. Petro-dollar, the cause of Iran war (7/4/08)

People think the nuclear ambition of Iran is the reason for Iran war. That is only right on Israel's part. For US part, it is petro-dollar.

US dollar is appointed currency in oil trading. Because the oil trade is a huge business, a large amount of dollar is locked up in that trade. That money is called petro-dollar. Why it is so important to US? Because it acts as a long term none interest loan The prosperous US economy partly was based on the petro-dollar - a long term loan without interest. Let me depict it in this way:

US bought a house from Japan (whom represents the oil customers of Iran) for one million dollars. US also bought another house from France (whom represents other oil customers of OPEC) for one million dollars. Japan and France use these two million dollars as fund to buy oil. The money was used in oil trading circle and never back to US. US enjoys the two houses almost free. He doesn't have to pay monthly mortgage payment. Not a penny for interest, nor for principle. All the cost was the printing of a green back paper. However, that green back paper - petro dollar, is still a debit note. How long is it? So far it's more than forty years - since dollar became the appointed oil trade currency.

But suddenly, Iran refuses to accept dollar. Japan has to ask US to exchange that one million dollar into Euro or yen. What US can do is: 1. to get the dollar back by export more merchandise. But he is not able to. He has a trade deficit already. 2. To get the dollar back with gold or foreign currency reserve. But he hasn't that much reserve. 3. To lock up that extra one million dollar in US Bond by raising the interest rate to attract the buyer. But he unwilling to do it. There is a sub-prime crisis in real estate market. Any interest increase will further devalue the house. Feds holds a large amount of real estates in my case, they don't allow such thing to happen. So to solve the problem, they go to the fourth option. 4. By pushing up the oil price.

France (other oil consumption countries) keeps one million dollar as oil trading fund. How much does he need if the oil price doubled? Two million. Thus the one million dollar Japan abandoned is absorbed by France. That's why the oil price jumped like crazy in recent days - a tricky way to keep US dollar from collapsing.

US has to pay for high oil price too. Ordinary people bear the cost. But the high oil price will hurt the economy. The condition won't last long. So war on Iran is unavoidable.

Of course, US is a "democratic" country. It can't start a war because others refusing to use its currency. Then beware of another 911 style false flag attack.
Pardon me Katsung...
I do not mean to insult you, however, I find there is something wrong with the syntax of your posts.
Almost as if they are being translated from another language by babelfish et al...
Is English your first language ?
Just curious...

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So far you are the first one "to insult". Yes, English is my second language. Does that make any difference?


3. The main reason is not supply and demand. It's US manipulating the oil price by oil reserve and future contract.

(1) Quote, "The former Fed chief also detailed how investors, rather than users of oil, have come to set the price of oil through purchasing futures contracts." Though Greespan use "investors" instead of "speculators".

(2) From supply side:

08-03-05. OPEC to maintain current production; blames US for economic ’mismanagement’

Published: Wednesday, March 5, 2008 | 3:03 PM ET
Canadian Press: William Kole, THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

OPEC President Chakib Khelil told reporters the global market is being affected by what he called "the mismanagement of the U.S. economy," and that America's problems were a key factor in the cartel's decision to hold off on any action.

"If the prices are high, definitely they are not due to a lack of crude. They are due to what's happening in the U.S.," Khelil said. "There is sufficient supply. There's plenty of oil there."
Though Khelil uses "US economy" instead of "speculat
ors".
(3) From demand side:

Quote, "Shell CEO says record oil not due to shortage
Thu May 22, 2008 5:24pm BST

http://uk.reuters.com/article/oilRpt/id ... 9720080522

(4) What US Senate Committee found:

Quote, "The real reason why oil prices are rising
June 02, 2008
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The finding of US Senate Committee in 2006

In June 2006, when the oil price in the futures markets was about $60 a barrel, a Senate Committee in the US probed the role of market speculation in oil and gas prices. The report points out that large purchase of crude oil futures contracts by speculators has, in effect, created additional demand for oil and in the process driven up the future prices of oil.......

The report further estimated that speculative purchases of oil futures had added as much as $20-25 per barrel to the then prevailing price of $60 per barrel. In today's prices of approximately $130 per barrel, this means that approximately $100 per barrel could be attributed to speculation!...

*What is interesting to note is that the US strategic oil reserves were at approximately 350 million barrels for a decade till 2006. However, for the past year and a half these reserves have doubled to more than 700 million barrels. Naturally, this build-up of strategic oil reserves by the US (of 350 million barrels) is adding enormous pressure on the oil demand and consequently its prices.

The real reason why oil prices are rising
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So war on Iran is unavoidable.
Fogive me but I have to go to the kitchen and get the salt shaker.

And, FYI, zero didn't insult you. In fact, knowing him, he went out of his way to be nice (for him).

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So far you are the first one "to insult". Yes, English is my second language. Does that make any difference?
Only slightly. You see, I actually liked the content of your post and agreed with the conclusion. It's just that determining if there's a political slant to your posts is more difficult thru the language-syntax barrier....

Get it ?

BTW, numbnutz51 is right. If I was intending to insult you, you'd know it.
I wasn't and apologize again if you took it as insult.

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4. Oil price goes up when Iran abandon Dollar as its oil trade currency. Time table:

(1) (Intention period)

In the end of 2006 and early 2007, the oil price was about $60/barrel. When Iran expressed its intention to use the euro for foreign transactions.
It was about $70/barrel in early July/07. In six months, it rose 10 dollars per barrel.

06-12-18.
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Iran scraps Dollar, takes on Euro
Mon. 18 Dec 2006
Iran Focus
Tehran, Iran, Dec. 18 - Iran's central bank will begin to use the euro for foreign transactions, replacing the long-established dollar system, government spokesman Gholam-Hossein Elham told reporters during his weekly press conference on Monday.

Welcome to Iran Focus ... oryid=9533

(2) Practising period.

From early July 2007 to the end of January 2008, in seven months, oil price rose from $60/barrel to $95/barrel. In this period, Iran completed its oil trading from dollar to foreign currency.

Quote, "
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Iran wants yen
July 13/2007 (Bloomberg) -- Iran asked Japanese refiners to switch to the yen to pay for all crude oil purchases, after Iran's central bank said it is reducing holdings of the U.S. dollar."

(3) Expand to future deal.

Early February 2008 to 7/4/2008, oil price was pushed up from $95 to $147 a barrel. That's a $50 dollars inflation in five months. Why I start this period from Februry 2008? Because Iran's Bourse inaugurated on Feb.17. When the oil customers of Iran have to buy the future contract by reserving more foreign currency in the bank, US has to push up the price, let other OPEC customers absorb the Petro-dollars dumped by Iran customers.

Quote, "
Quote:

Iran Oil Bourse to deal blow to dollar
Fri, 04 Jan 2008

The long-awaited Iranian Oil Bourse, a place for trading oil, petrochemicals and gas in various non-dollar currencies, will soon open.

Iran's Finance Minister Davoud Danesh-Jafari told reporters the bourse will be inaugurated during the anniversary of the Islamic Revolution (February 1-11) at the latest.

Some expert opinions hold inauguration of the bourse cold significantly devalue the greenback.

No Operation ... =351020103

08-03-01.
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Iran shifts oil sales away from dollar
Sat, 01 Mar 2008

Deputy head of the National Iranian Oil Company for international affairs says Iran has completely dropped dollar in its oil sales.

In an interview with The Financial Times, Hojjatollah Ghanimifard said that over the past three months, Iran has received 75 percent of the proceeds from its oil sales in euros and the remaining 25 percent in the Japanese currency, yen.

No Operation ... =351020102
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High oil price (5) (7/29/08)

In Oil (4) I talked about Iran intended to turn the oil trading from dollar into euro in December 2006. Did Iran deliberately do that? Read the following information:

468. Follow up to #467, #461 and #462 (2/20/07)

On 1/15 and 1/20, I wrote #461 and #462, alleged that US had set up a Euro trap for Iran: If the December plot started, Euro would collapse due to the collapse of WANTA fund and the shortage of oil supply to the Europe. Iran not only would be bombed, but also suffered a huge loss in finance. On 2/1, an article proved the correctness of my analysis.

Re: "The War on Iran


Thursday, 01 February 2007
By Stephen Gowans

In Paulson’s view, Iran is still a major player globally, and needs to suffer the same pariah treatment. (New York Times, September 17, 2006) In October, US Treasury Department officials banned US banks from facilitating transactions involving Iran’s state-owned Bank Saderat. In January, the ban was widened to include another Iranian bank, Bank Sepah.

When Iran sells oil to a customer in Germany, the German customer asks a European bank to deposit US dollars into an Iranian bank account. The European bank then arranges for the transfer of US dollars from a US bank to an Iranian bank account in Europe. Paulson’s ban prohibits US banks from transferring funds if Bank Saderat and Bank Sepah are involved. (New York Times, October 16, 2006) With oil sales denominated in US dollars, the aim is to impede Iran’s ability to sell oil. The way around the US manoeuvre is to sell oil in Euros, something Iran has already begun to do. (New York Times, January 10, 2007)

This would seem to be a simple enough way of beating the US at its own game. It also raises questions about the prudence of compelling Iran to switch to Euros, since a change to Euros, if adopted by a number of oil-exporting countries, would push down the value of the US greenback. US investment banker John Hermann, a comptroller of currency in the Carter administration, wonders whether the US is shooting itself in the foot. (New York Times, October 16, 2006)

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In October, US blocked the financial transaction between US banks and major Iran bank which forced Iran to turn on to Euro instead of Dollar in oil trading. Two months later, if the December plot succeeded, Iran would suffer a big loss in finance. The US investment banker John Hermann wonders whether the US is shooting itself in the foot then. He wouldn't have that puzzle if he reads my messages."

It's no others but US himself who forced Iran to turn on Euro. In December 2006 they set up a Euro trap. But the plot went soured. Since the process is irreversible, and the Feds is unwilling to raise the interest, to save the dollar, they have to push up the oil price. We the people have to eat the bad fruit planted by the Feds.

Someone or a group inside the government created a situation to make war on Iran.
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6. Media's mind control (oil price 6) (8/12/08)

You may have noticed that all the information I referred to were from internet. The only mainstream newspaper in my area is San Jose Mercury. There is none news about Iran turns onto Euro and Japanese yen instead of dollar in oil trading, let alone the news that US treasury department banned the transactions between US banks and Iran's. There is no news about the Iranian Oil Bourse which was inaugurated on February 17, 2008 in a video conference ceremony from Tehran. The Iran oil trading transactions are made in Iranian rial and other major currencies since. This news is very important since it is a big turning point in US policy. Many big events were caused by this inauguration of Iranian Oil Bourse. I'll talk about it later.

The news which filled in tv screen and newspaper page are: Iran's speed boat charg at US vessel; Iran had missile test; Iranian training militias in Iraq; Iran rejects nuclear proposal; Nuclear program could result in more sanctions...... Iran is tarnished as a terrorist.

The similar tactic was seen before Iraq war when Saddam Hussain was described as a major threat to US. The false flag for Iraq is WMD; for Iran is its nuclear program. The real reason are the same: Both Iraq and Iran abandoned US dollars as currency in oil trading.

Saddam turned on to Euro in oil trading in 2000. In the end of that year, Bush got the seat of US president in a controversial election. When Clinton left the White House, he also left with a historical surplus in budget. There was no reason Demo would lose the 2000 president election. But what inside group needed was a war. In negotiation behind the curtain, Bush won the deal. He sold his soul to a devil by promising an unjust war - Iraq war. He was granted president. Of course, to justify the war, they prepared a false flag terror attack. Six months after Bush's inauguration, WTC changed hands. (Silverstein got the lease in July, 01) If you want to plant explosive in the building covertly without being aware by anyone else, you had to control the ownership of the building. Eight months later, we saw 911 attack.

The media waved the terror intimidation on people, targeted at Iraq then and now at Iran. Media censored every word on 911 truth even though there are a lot of flaws in this false flag attack and rarely talk about the story how Iran abandoned dollars as its oil trading currency. This is how the inside group control public's opinion by media. They wash your brain with the information they want you to know and censor the truth they want to hide from you. With media they play people as fools.

Media used to censor the news of US military threat on Iran, here is the recent one:

Quote, "Massive US Naval Armada Heads For Iran
Thursday, August 7, 2008

The lead American ship in these war games, the USS Theodore Roosevelt (CVN71) and its Carrier Strike Group Two (CCSG-2) are now headed towards Iran along with the USS Ronald Reagon (CVN76) and its Carrier Strike Group Seven (CCSG-7) coming from Japan.

They are joining two existing USN battle groups in the Gulf area: the USS Abraham Lincoln (CVN72) with its Carrier Strike Group Nine (CCSG-9); and the USS Peleliu (LHA-5) with its expeditionary strike group.

Likely also under way towards the Persian Gulf is the USS Iwo Jima (LHD-7) and .....

http://europebusines.blogspot.com/2008/ ... -iran.html

Will we see a big operation in near future? When China concentrates on Olympic Games and Russia engages in a sudden war.
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7. The big events relate to the Iran oil Bourse (8/22/08)

(1) Undersea cable cuts.

Iran's oil Bourse was planed to open during the anniversary of the Islamic Revolution (February 1-11) at the latest. It finally inaugurated on Feb. 17. What caused the delay? The communication problem - in a week or so, there were five under sea cable cuts.

2/3/08. Quote, "
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US Crashes Internet In Middle East After Saudi Threat, Russia Responds With Air Forces

By: Sorcha Faal, and as reported to her Western Subscribers
February 3, 2008

Reports circulating in the Kremlin today are painting a grim picture of just how desperate US War Leaders have become as their economy continues its freefall towards total bankruptcy by their crashing of Global Internet access for the Middle East’s banking centers in Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Abu Dhabi, Iran, UAR, Turkey and Kuwait.

The significance to the severing of these cables is the Middle East Banking Centers being denied access to the Society for Worldwide Interbank Financial Telecommunication (SWIFT), based in Brussels and which carries up to 12.7 million messages a day containing instructions on many of the International transfers of money between banks, lies in Saudi Arabia, or any other Middle East Nation, being unable to change their previously, before loss of communication, encoded currency instructions from being changed.

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2/4/08.
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Conspiracy Theories and Cut InterTube Cables”

“February 4, 2008 - Fourth Undersea Fiber Optic Cable Cut. Cable linking Qatar to the United Arab Emirates was damaged on Sunday, February 3, causing more telecommunication disruptions.

This month, Iran was supposed to open its own bourse, trading oil and oil futures in Euros and other currencies, but not the dollar. Delinking oil from the dollar would protect Iran from Bush's spendthrift invasion and occupation of Iraq, and the resulting collapse of the US dollar.
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2/6/08.
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Submarine Cables, Subsidiares and Subversion

The Iranian oil bourse was going to be a stock market for petroluem, petrochemicals and gas. What’s the big catch here? The exchange planned on being ran with currencies excluding the U.S. dollar. ...... So, obviously, the U.S. is not going to be happy about this. The biggest piece of information linking this to the recent damages is the proposed location of the bourse: the island of Kish. This is the island that is RIGHT NEXT TO at least two of the cuts that have recently occurred:

Some of you may suddenly be thinking to yourselves that this sounds familiar. That’s because the last person who decided to stop using the U.S. dollar for trading oil was a man by the name of Saddam Hussein in the fall of 2000.

[UPDATE: To further add to this argument, this would not be the first time the U.S. would have disrupted submarine cables to further themselves in times of war or conflict.

(Operation Ivy Bells <Operation Ivy Bells - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia>) (Previous NSA Submarine Wiretaps <http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9595_22-5...ml?legacy=zdnn>)]

Submarine Cables, Subsidiares and Subversion | Random Drake ... ubversion/

2/9/08.
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5th cable cut fuels allegations of isolating Iran
Leslie D`Monte & Rajesh S Kurup / Mumbai February 9, 2008

Conspiracy theories of deliberately cutting communication lines to West Asia, primarily Iran, gained ground in the media and blogs as reports of another undersea cable cut - the fifth successive one in just a week's time - started emerging in cyberspace. While the extent of Iran's isolation was unclear, many blogs alleged that the cable cuts and outages in West Asia were a ploy by an intelligence agency to disrupt Iranian commerce, targeting an emerging petroleum exchange that the country was shortly hoping to roll out.

http://www.business-standard.com/common ... ono=313112

If a store refuses to accept someone's cheque due to his bad credit record, can that man intrude into the store and kill the manager and occupy that store? That's what US did to Iraq.

If another store refuses to accept someone's cheque due to his bad credit record, can that man cut the telephone line of that store as revenge? That's what US did to Iran. Now it sends a naval armada to the Persian Gulf.

If someone cuts the undersea cable in Hawaii and NewYork, what will US do? A war, I suppose. Now you can see who is the threat of the world.
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