"Israel offerred them everything they said they wanted" - and Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. Have you found them yet?
The ones who paid for the head-up-the-arse attitude displayed by speedzilla neocons are the 4000-plus US military who died in Iraq and the thousands more maimed for life. They didn't die for the US national interest, but for Israel. How phucked is that?
And thanks for the tip about the Gileras in the barn. For a supposed italophile like yourself, what made you think they were Bridgestones?
Israel offerred them everything they said they wanted, and the PLO still refused to agree.
The two sides will never stop fighting until one side is obliterated. The surrounding Arab countries could offer the Palestinians a homeland tomorrow if they wanted to, and probably be compensated in some way from the UN for doing it. But they don't want them either.
Much easier to keep the Palestinians in abject poverty,blowing themselves up in a proxy war with Israel.
Line one is a lie. I don't know who told you that but it's definitely not true. Israel offered all the crap land and wanted to keep every thing worth anything.
And why should the surrouding countries be forced to take a bunch of foreigners in? The Palestinians have a home and there are currently European immigrants living on it. That is the only wrong that needs to be corrected.
__________________ "...let us not ignore the truth among ourselves, that we are the aggressors and they defend themselves. The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down."
David Ben-Gurion (the father of Israel) "When fascism comes to America it will be draped in a flag and holding a cross." Sinclair Lewis I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands. One nation, indivisible, with liberty, and justice for all.
"Israel offered them everything they said they wanted, and the PLO still refused to agree."
As Area says, that's a lie. Almost as soon as Camp David finished in July (?) 2000, the Israeli propaganda machine, aided by the US, started pumping out that lie. "we offered them the moon" "we offered them 97% of the West Bank"
All massive lies. Then when the violence erupted in September 2000: "the Palestinians started it"; "we offered them the moon, but they rejected it because they wanted war"
Same sort of lie as: "Iraq has weapons of mass destruction"
Unfortunately, people fall for this shit time and time again.
In 2004 I looked at the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs Website to see what it said about the "magnificent offer" that Israel had made at Camp David. I looked everywhere on the site and all I could see was about two sentences. The 'magnificent offer' is all bullshit. Israel has never made anything remotely resembling any kind of genuine offer.
If Jesus of Palestine saw people, his people, matching DNA, just like him, treated just like the Palestinians are treated by violent, right wing assholes... In the same manner as his father, he'd start killing people I suppose. I mean he had a tantrum over money business in the church didnt he? Makes sense that he'd kill the hypocrites that freely and arrogantly kill others, under a platform of lies, greed and aggression, in his name... wow! Why are Christians not flocking to stop/help others? The real history is there, for all to see. Do they really think religious lies are going to fool supreme, universal truth? Now that we know NAtive Americans are not savages and African Americans are not 3/5ths of a man, shouldn't the perpetrators apologize for the realities and for the history books? No, they're busy rewriting history whilst celebrating their superiority.
I guess the sermon on the mount wasnt Jesus after all.... These modern 'christians' would have welcomed Jesus like they welcomed Julian Assange.. "THe truth? Kill it"! How Roman of them. I suppose the modern christian has an excuse for each and every murder, land grab, genocide or rape they partake in. They merely have to build churches, pay lip service and quote text to consider themselves superior. Is Jesus really gonna fall for that crap? If he does, I'd rather live in hell, with the truth.
There is no way to justify the current treatment of the people of Palestine by lying about, rewriting or falsifying history or the reality of now. If they continue to lie about the reality, they break yet another of Jesus's teachings. Bearing false witness. The swollen and expanding list goes on. The only way to understand the worldly, 'godly' 'religious' truth is to identify those who cause the injustice, the crime, the lie and the violence.. Thats an arc load of people... including the indignant right wing of Israel and America... It's no surpize that they sit in denial as judges and jurors toward others.
As a non believer, I dont mind imagining having front row tickets to the judgment day. To see the murderous likes of pseudo christians trying to bargain with a pissed off, all knowing deity... it's laughable. They can lie to us and to each other and spread it via the schools, the churches, history books and the TV stations... but NOT to the supreme being.. unless... but of course, he doesnt really exist...
Yes, I'd say it's time to start calling christians something else.... Bankers waiting for bonuses after raping the financial system comes to mind...I mean, a 'banker' isnt a banker if he steals all the money.. he's an embezzler...NOT a banker. Jesus, sure as hell, wouldn't recognize them as his servants...
soslow meet gaggy, idiot meet moron...................
Just to clarify, although I'm Roman Catholic, I send money to Israel, with the express goal of enabling them to kill more palestinians (whatever the fook they are....) Just so you know bitches!
Semper Fi!
-Rocky-
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Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, because they live in the gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat."
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The perfect justification for another 9/11.
Nation of idiots.
__________________ "...let us not ignore the truth among ourselves, that we are the aggressors and they defend themselves. The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down."
David Ben-Gurion (the father of Israel) "When fascism comes to America it will be draped in a flag and holding a cross." Sinclair Lewis I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands. One nation, indivisible, with liberty, and justice for all.
^^^^^^ The reason they thought we wouldn't react............liberal apoligists, is your last name Chamberlin? (Look it up son, history is your friend.....)
Semper Fi!
-Rocky-
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ROCKYMT
Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, because they live in the gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat."
If Jesus of Palestine saw people, his people, matching DNA, just like him, treated just like the Palestinians are treated by violent, right wing assholes... In the same manner as his father, he'd start killing people I suppose.
Amen to that one!
If you judge Israel by its actions then surely it is possessed. Maybe everyone is mistaken about armeghedon. Maybe it will be a trap, sucking all the faithful into the holy land where they will disappear to a life of agony at the end of a pitchfork. Hell would be the perfect place for Zionists. In pecking order, Hitler would be pecked first...but Zionists would eventualy get their due.
__________________ "...let us not ignore the truth among ourselves, that we are the aggressors and they defend themselves. The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down."
David Ben-Gurion (the father of Israel) "When fascism comes to America it will be draped in a flag and holding a cross." Sinclair Lewis I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands. One nation, indivisible, with liberty, and justice for all.
^^^^^^ The reason they thought we wouldn't react............liberal apoligists, is your last name Chamberlin? (Look it up son, history is your friend.....)
OBL wanted us to attack. We walked right into the trap.
__________________ "...let us not ignore the truth among ourselves, that we are the aggressors and they defend themselves. The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down."
David Ben-Gurion (the father of Israel) "When fascism comes to America it will be draped in a flag and holding a cross." Sinclair Lewis I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands. One nation, indivisible, with liberty, and justice for all.
Republicans make about as much sense as Ghaddafi... They're both crazy and both stupid... sigh. They both believe in trickle down, or pissing on the middle class. Both like torture, spying and accusing others of what they do themselves...
The lists is as long as the official, right wing hoax/conspiracy list...
gaggy, I think I can speak for EVERYONE here (with 3 notable exceptions) Please shut the fvck up, you are a 24 carat douchebag (ala soslow) who no one listens to, you are a waste of bandwidth AND oxygen.
Semper Fi!
-Rocky-
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ROCKYMT
Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, because they live in the gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat."
Cocky - at least we are not phuckwits like you and the other zilla neoconzionistas.
You have no chance of getting to heaven; you won't even get a chance to get into purgatory. It's straight down to the eternal fires of hell for you.
Unless you repent. You can start to do that by swallowing your pride, dipping into the public purse just a little (you keep telling us you have earned it) and getting some professional counselling for your PTSD.
If you can do that I'll ask my brother to say a mass for you.
I'm a recovering Catholic who's spent 8 years in the Corps, so I've already reconned Hell, 'an you can tell yer brother to say mass for my sorry ass every fookin' day bitch, I need it, What the fvck is YOUR excuse for being a douchebag? PBS? Fvck off Sally.
Semper Fi!
Love,
-Rocky-
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ROCKYMT
Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, because they live in the gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat."
(Look it up son, history is your friend.....)
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