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Old 11-12-2009, 03:38 AM
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As is their custom, lawless mercenaries further tarnish our image. Tarsewage, otherwise known as Blackwater (now called Xe (Z) in a desperate move of self-rehabilitation), seems to have lived by the motto, "when in Baghdad, do as the Baghdadies do", showing them all what high principals we live by. Thanks, Tarsewage.

Blackwater bribe plot alleged | News for Dallas, Texas | Dallas Morning News | Headline | International News
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Old 11-12-2009, 04:06 AM
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This is their custom? You know this from NY Times stories, Iraqi hearsay and ex employees that will only speak under the condition of anonymity?

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As is their custom, lawless mercenaries further tarnish our image. Tarsewage, otherwise known as Blackwater (now called Xe (Z) in a desperate move of self-rehabilitation), seems to have lived by the motto, "when in Baghdad, do as the Baghdadies do", showing them all what high principals we live by. Thanks, Tarsewage.

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Old 11-12-2009, 03:33 PM
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Reading between the lines (I've seen this kind of thing before, and before, and before...), I'd say they paid one million in order to smooth things over so that they could keep hundreds of millions of dollars in government contracts. One mill for hundreds. Must have been very tempting. Too tempting, apparently. At least there were four men with morals in that company. Is it any wonder that they want anonymity? Ever heard of Mark Felt? Highly unlikely the four are making this up. Very, very unlikely. Hmm, what's your motive for defending low-lifes who take our tax dollars like bandits and ruin our image in the process?

In case anyone missed it, these rhoid-rage mentals were already discussed here.

Making the Water turn Black...

But here's a highlight provided by Kiwi:

"The amount the government pays Blackwater for these same services is approximately six to nine times greater" ...than for similar military personnel.

Can anyone say: War Profiteering?

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Old 01-14-2010, 05:32 PM
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The government was hoping we'd not notice but I did. They dropped the prosecution of Blackwater mentals over the brain cramp in Baghdad (murder to some).

BLACKWATER PROSECUTION « DUCKPOND

But it seems that the government of Iraq is going to stray from the program.

France24 - Blackwater prosecution has begun, says Baghdad

So why did we drop prosecution, you may ask. Answer, to protect the decision makers. Justice is sometimes an inconvenience. Hmm, I wonder how Slick Cheney plays into this.

Blackwater prosecution should reach far higher - Worldnews.com
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Cheney, et ilky al, are the worst Americans I've ever studied...

Makes me ill that they boast that they're smarter than the founding fathers... that they're above the constitution, the law, duty, honor, truth, valor, what a bunch of greedy, draft dodging phucktards..

Right wingers should pay for what they cost us all in egregious lies and criminal actions...
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"Change we can believe in"

Indeed. Where is the change?

Demoncrats control the Congress and the Executive. Why should we be paying so much for their services? Why should we allow a company that has acted the way they have continue to get money from taxpayers? What is wrong with the libs, don't they have the fortitude to do the right thing? They won elections on broken promises and we are letting them have free reign.
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"Change we can believe in"

Indeed. Where is the change?
Oh, there's been plenty of change. Obama changed. He started changing his tune the day after the election.

Our President who won a Nobel Peace Prize and promised to end the wars just asked Congress for a record amount of money to wage war this year ($700 Billion +). You couldn't make this stuff up...
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What you couldn't make up is the mess left to Obama by you and the udder systemic deniers. It's simply unbelievable. A ding a ling wouldnt hesitate to break his word to the Iraqis.. he'd just break the law, the treaty, his word, his country's word... it reminds me of other treaties in American history that were treacherously broken....However, if you're jaded, narrow minded and um, maybe a tad prejudiced, you could just forget who created the real mess and who the real culprits are and blame the first responder.

That would make you a typical ding-a-ling.. Blame everything but reality and your responsibility... I have seen people bump into a chair and start blaming the chair...terrible. I cant imagine how disheartening it is to have to listen to whining, hypocritical right wingers who absolved themselves in a heartbeat whilst pointing the finger at culprits and villains... to quote Trump..."you're fired"...
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However, if you're jaded, narrow minded and um, maybe a tad prejudiced, you could just forget who created the real mess and who the real culprits are and blame the first responder.
Seriously, you're trying to play the race card here? I just mentioned a few facts about Obama's actions vs. his promises, and instead of addressing those facts you just call me a racist? You are a pathetic douchebag. I'm just glad you ain't American.

I would agree that I'm jaded, however. Obama is working out just about the way I figured he would. Remember, I don't think there's a dime's worth of difference between the Democrat and Republican leaders. You're the fanboy who believed Obama's campaign promises. You believed he was really going to do something different and "change" something in Washington, right?.


With the exception of the healthcare reform failure, I don't think things would be any different today had McCain won the election.
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What you couldn't make up is the mess left to Obama by you and the udder systemic deniers. It's simply unbelievable. A ding a ling wouldnt hesitate to break his word to the Iraqis.. he'd just break the law, the treaty, his word, his country's word... it reminds me of other treaties in American history that were treacherously broken....However, if you're jaded, narrow minded and um, maybe a tad prejudiced, you could just forget who created the real mess and who the real culprits are and blame the first responder.

That would make you a typical ding-a-ling.. Blame everything but reality and your responsibility... I have seen people bump into a chair and start blaming the chair...terrible. I cant imagine how disheartening it is to have to listen to whining, hypocritical right wingers who absolved themselves in a heartbeat whilst pointing the finger at culprits and villains... to quote Trump..."you're fired"...
don't be blind, he is no better then those that set all this into motion, just because he inhereted most of it doesn't mean he is innocent when he has the most power to make changes that he promised and didn't carry out......
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Ya know what gag? Maybe yer right, we should look to our neighbors to the north for "leadership"...............................Nah . Blackwater serves a purpose, they are what is known as a "kite", ya cut the string, and there's no more connection, unfortunately, something nessisary in this "brave new world" of international courts, looking for ANY excuse to prosecute America for alledged "war crimes" while THEY sit on their ass protected by us. Don't expect;
A. For you to even have a basic idea of how shit goes down in the REAL WORLD
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B. For you to respond with anything resembling a sensible reply, OR one that doesn't contain a "hillbilly" or "iceberg" reference........sad, really sad.

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What you couldn't make up is the mess left to Obama by you and the udder systemic deniers.
A year after he inherited the "mess", it's even worse than we could've ever imagined! Well done Obama! What an epic failure he's been in such a short amount of time.
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Oh, there's been plenty of change. Obama changed. He started changing his tune the day after the election.

Our President who won a Nobel Peace Prize and promised to end the wars just asked Congress for a record amount of money to wage war this year ($700 Billion +). You couldn't make this stuff up...
First of all, you and I and every other Zilla idiot knows that elected officials change their tune. It's a given so don't act so incensed.

Second, Obama and the Dems in Congress have been throwing all types of bones to the conservatives. Yet all we get is more Republican stalling. All they care about is making Obama look bad, like, the less he accomplishes the better. The health bill is full of changes to placate the stools...I mean Republicans. Obama has shown he's all about compromise and the nation. Christ, every friggin' liberal group in the country is bitching about it. Yet so many morons on the right have the gaul to ignore all that and focus on other issues, an endless list of issues - like the Nobel. The Nobel? Why does that even matter? Oh, right, it matters because it's Obama. Never mind this country. It's all about Obama, isn't it? Geez, you'd think it would be good for an American President to win the Nobel. But apparently it is not for some. How phucking ironic that they are the same group that is constantly touting their patriotism. Sometimes I think this country would be better without conservatives. But then I think of Charlie Rangel.
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A year after he inherited the "mess", it's even worse than we could've ever imagined! Well done Obama! What an epic failure he's been in such a short amount of time.
Before you are so quick to proclaim failure you had better do some research about what Obama and Congress saved us from. I saw a graph from the Congressional Budget Office about a month ago that showed the economy as it is and the economy how is expected to be without any government intervention. Believe me, if the CBO is correct (and they are touted by both parties as being neutral) then we are in a whole lot better shape because of all the spending and bailouts than if we hadn't don't anything. No one really knows for sure what would have happened without the bailouts but I've even heard a number of conservative economists say that much of it was necessary. Of course sub-human drips like Charles Krautheimer will never admit that on television, but really, what weight does he carry? I know! He carries the weight of Rupert Murdoch.
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Yeah, the Retard Lardbaugh crowd is thinking that the Haitian earthquake is "playing into the hands of the Obama administration....Morons...
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Believe me, if the CBO is correct (and they are touted by both parties as being neutral) then we are in a whole lot better shape because of all the spending and bailouts than if we hadn't don't anything.

the free market catapulted the USA to where it is now falling from, it's been a long time in the making and the belief that it is made better by govt intervention of any sort is the biggest falicy. Govt is inherently inept. the only 2 power they are supposed to have and that they are single handedly the best at administering is contract law and sovereign defense. that should be their olny goal because it is the only thing that they do well. people buying into the idea that the govt saved us from economic disaster is the roada to armagedon especially when the line between wall st and the govt is blurred. all the govt did was buy time to uphold the faulty "faux capitalist" system they have created.
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With the exception of the healthcare reform failure, I don't think things would be any different today had McCain won the election.
McCain was far from my preferred choice but I think he would have stopped spending unlike what this guy is doing, what this imbecile is attempting to get done with HC during 'these [economic] times' and an active war is crazy.
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McCain was far from my preferred choice but I think he would have stopped spending unlike what this guy is doing, what this politician is attempting to get done with HC during 'these [economic] times' and an active war is crazy.
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I hear you, but then again if it were YOUR pocket that was going to take a beating, you might be more inclined to use my word.


Altho I typically agree that all politicians suck, I STILL think the democrat ideology is slowly killing this nation far worse than any republican could and yes that includes the former BushII. Make no mistake about it ppl, the dems will suck every drop of blood and steal every cent they can from any working person to provide for those who choose not to but are able bodied to vote for their ideology.
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the free market catapulted the USA to where it is now falling from, it's been a long time in the making and the belief that it is made better by govt intervention of any sort is the biggest falicy. Govt is inherently inept. the only 2 power they are supposed to have and that they are single handedly the best at administering is contract law and sovereign defense. that should be their olny goal because it is the only thing that they do well. people buying into the idea that the govt saved us from economic disaster is the roada to armagedon especially when the line between wall st and the govt is blurred. all the govt did was buy time to uphold the faulty "faux capitalist" system they have created.
It may be that all they did was buy us time. But we need time. Without time we go bankrupt now instead of later. Time may get us through to the next up cycle.

The rest of your post is questionable. It's textbook theory and theory is often trumped by reality. In a modern, uber-complex world bureaucracy is a necessary evil. This is not 1849. A government like you want leads to AIGs and Love Canals if you're lucky, and Great Depressions and Chernobyls if you're not. But the usual qualifier: government waste is an enemy that never goes away. We need to manage government waste as well as capitalist greed. Whenever I hear the tired, old bromide that all government should do is provide for defense blah, blah, blah, I know I'm listening to an idiot. I'll bet zero and XFOB have uttered those words before.
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