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Old 11-10-2009, 06:13 AM
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No surprise, the US military is a reflection of society in general with all the best and worst rolled up in one big burrito of social experimentation. We even have socialized medicine essentially for the military and government in general. It should suprise noone that this happened at Fort Hood. It should suprise nobody when a soldier kills a prisoner/captive. It may be shameful but not a surprise. It has happened in every military and will again. Generalizing to the US or blaming religion is pointless. Hasan wanted to get out of the military and pay back his educationfrom medicalschool. He did not belong in the military and someone should have realized this sooner, but the military is very stubborn about letting anyone out of their commitment. Unfortunately when that someone is a little deranged, stuff like this happens.

Oh and I really do not care much if Israel dissappears from the map, as long as a relatively strong group has control of some real estate in the mid east and counterbalances the antiwestern culture there, christian/jew I don't really care.
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Old 11-10-2009, 11:31 PM
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LK the only "dumb comments" are coming from you, Soslow and the other Lefty's on this forum. The sad thing is that you really believe that you do know "how it is". Ignorance is bliss.

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You don't seem to know how it is, though, Matthew, otherwise you wouldn't have made that dumb remark.

However, I'll bow to your intimate knowledge, so feel free to prove that what I posted is wrong.

I find it really funny that people can get so hot under the collar when a Muslim cracks over an unfair and illegal war and goes psycho, yet never seem to blink when a zealot "End-of-times" Christian does the same, and Matthew, I'm ABSOLUTELY sure that you know some of these lunatics in the US Army.
Look up some of the massacres committed by these dogmatic idiots, and prepare yourself for lots more. Any time a religion gets fanatical, the doo-doo will hit the air-conditioning unit.
The same with the Moonies and the neo-nazis, and if you think that there are NO neo-nazis in the US Army, then in you're in for a rude shock.
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Old 11-11-2009, 09:40 AM
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LK the only "dumb comments" are coming from you, Soslow and the other Lefty's on this forum. The sad thing is that you really believe that you do know "how it is". Ignorance is bliss.

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You're all guilty of talking shit, the sad fact is 13 familes are grieving their loved one and this thread is disrepectful IMO.
Can't you guys just let something go without bitching between ourselves. Who cares what his motives they will come out in the wash, 13 people died.
It came hot on the heels of 5 british troops being murdered by a rouge Afgan Policeman they were mentoring. For all you know he may have been a sleeper, come on get over your differances for once and show some respect.
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Fair Enough!

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hard to believe what this man doing there
my daughter stay last year in killeen.
she stayed for a time in the ford too.
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So far I'm on target.

Ft. Hood Suspect Had 'Unexplained Connections'

Wednesday, November 11, 2009



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Army psychiatrist Major Nidal Hasan is suspected of a deadly rampage at the Fort Hood base in Texas.
The Army psychiatrist suspected of killing 13 people in a shooting rampage at Fort Hood had "more unexplained connections to people being tracked by the FBI" than just a radical Muslim imam, investigators have found, according to a report.
The names of the individuals Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan was in contact with was not revealed by the official, but sources in Congress told ABC News their names and locations will likely emerge soon.
The mystery over whether the military knew Hasan was communicating with radical imam Anwar al-Awlaki lapsed into finger-pointing ahead of congressional investigations looking into the Army psychiatrist's contacts with extremists.
Even as President Barack Obama remembered those killed at the Texas Army post and condemned what he described as "the twisted logic that led to this tragedy," federal agencies reacted to conflicting claims about whether a Defense Department terrorism investigator looked into Hasan's contacts months ago with Awlaki. Awlaki, an imam who was released from a Yemeni jail last year, has used his personal Web site to encourage Muslims across the world to kill U.S. troops in Iraq. A military official Tuesday denied knowing Hasan had such contacts.
Two government officials, speaking on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the case on the record, said the Washington-based joint terrorism task force overseen by the FBI was notified of communications between Hasan and the imam overseas, and the information was turned over to a Defense Criminal Investigative Service employee assigned to the task force. The communications were gathered by investigators beginning in December 2008 and continuing into early this year.
That defense investigator wrote up an assessment of Hasan after reviewing the communications and the Army major's personnel file, according to these officials. The assessment concluded Hasan did not merit further investigation — in large part because his communications with the imam were centered on a research paper about the effects of combat in Iraq and Afghanistan and the investigator determined that Hasan was in fact working on such a paper, the officials said.
The disclosure came as questions swirled about whether opportunities were missed to head off the massacre in which 13 died and 29 were wounded last Thursday — a familiar, early stage in the investigation of headline-grabbing crimes when public officials involved in a case often speak anonymously as they try to shift any blame to rivals in other agencies.
The Senate already has launched its own inquiry into the Hasan case. Sens. Joe Lieberman, a Connecticut independent, and Susan Collins, R-Maine, plan to hold a hearing on the shootings next week.
The disclosure Tuesday of the defense investigator's role indicated the U.S. military was aware of worrisome behavior by the massacre suspect long before the attack. Following the disclosure, a senior defense official, also demanding anonymity, directly contradicted that notion.
The senior defense official said neither the Army nor any other part of the Defense Department knew of Hasan's contacts with any Muslim extremists. But the defense official carefully conceded this view was based upon what the Pentagon knows now.
Hours later, the same senior defense official reiterated that the Defense Department was not notified before the Fort Hood massacre of investigations into Hasan, despite the participation of two Defense Department investigators on two joint task forces run by the FBI that looked at Hasan. This defense official asserted that the task force ground rules barred any members from telling their home agency about task force findings without approval of the other investigators and wasn't aware of whether there was ever any discussion of doing that.
FBI officials were not immediately available to comment late Tuesday on what ground rules prevailed in the joint task forces or whether they were applied in this situation or not. One government official, however, pointed out that to complete the assessment the Defense Criminal Investigative Service representative had to access Hasan's Defense Department personnel file and determine what research he was conducting at the time.
The FBI has opened its own internal review of how it handled the early information about Hasan. Military, law enforcement and intelligence agencies also are defending themselves against tough questions about what each of them knew about Hasan before he allegedly opened fire in a crowded room at the huge Army post.
The Associated Press contributed to this report.
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