More San Francisco Insanity....

[RockyMt]

Yesterday, the police dept. reported that the D.A.'s office (the same DA who refuses to EVER go for the death penalty, even in the case of multiple murders, and gang driven assault weapon execution of police officers...) has ordered them not to impound the cars of people stopped for driving without a licence (which by default also means NO INSURANCE!) "because a dis-proportionate number (of said scumbags) are "un-documented aliens" (ie; criminals who have broken a Federal law by sneaking into America ILLEGALLY!) and because they are here illegally (and therefore CRIMINALS!) can't get a valid drivers licence (or INSURANCE) so it puts an "undue hardship" on their sorry asses. These are the SAME people who cause law abiding/tax paying citizens (and LEGAL aliens) to pay 30% more on average for insurance! Since when can a publicly elected LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICAL tell the rank and file to ignore state (and federal) law? I'd love to see an SFPD officer defy her (kamilia (puke!) harris) mandate, and impound the car and arrest said criminal. Let's see how far she'd get in trying to disipline a sworn police officer for doing their job! This from someone who THINKS she's gonna run for State Atty General.......Time for people to demand that elected officials carry out what the citizens and courts have mandated, or face the consequences!

Semper Fi!

-Rocky-

PS. Anyone here even TRY driving in Mexico without Mexican auto insurance? (you lose yer car FOR GOOD!)

[20_RC51_00]

go back to the constitution..... all problems solved, and the US becomes the greatest nation in the world.... looks like Cali is taking a turn to becmome, the netherlands, GB... hope that it doesn't spread! > see here Wake up America........

[Area 51]

Hah, hah.
I read this story in the paper today and I had a feeling YOU would post it up. Phuck, I was thinking about doing the same. Stupid phucking Board of Supervisors! You did forget to mention one detail though. The offender has twenty minutes to have someone with a license and insurance come and get the car before it's towed. Twenty minutes up, then you can get towed.

While I'm at it, I think they did something to revive the sanctuary status of illegals in SF. But I could be mistaken about that.

[RockyMt]

Maybe I should start another new business, "Call Rocky to keep yer car from gettin' impounded", charge 'em $250......That's cheaper than the $1200+ it now costs if they impound yer ride for 30 days.

-Rocky-

[nycstripes]

If the car isn't insured, you can't get it insured in 20mins, it'll wind up on a hook anyway.

SF did renew its vows as a sanctuary city with a caveat, convicted felony youth offenders can be reported.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/21/us/21sanctuary.html
SAN FRANCISCO — The San Francisco board of supervisors voted Tuesday to overturn a city policy that has been at the center of a national debate over offering illegal immigrants sanctuary.
The policy, ordered by Mayor Gavin Newsom last summer, requires the police to contact Immigration and Customs Enforcement whenever they arrest a juvenile on felony charges who they suspect is in the United States illegally. Since the policy took effect last summer, more than 100 undocumented minors have been turned over to federal immigration authorities.
Mr. Newsom has said the ordinance is necessary to prevent young criminals from using the city’s so-called sanctuary policy, which prevents the use of city money for immigration enforcement.
“Sanctuary city was never designed to protect people who commit crimes,” said Nathan Ballard, a spokesman for Mr. Newsom.
But under the changes approved Tuesday, referrals would be required only after juveniles were convicted of crimes, instead of after their arrest. Immigration advocates say that referrals upon arrest have resulted in the deportation of innocent youths, the breakup of families and a fear among immigrants of contacting the police when they are the victims of crime.

[RockyMt]

Did you read the quote carefully? "They are afraid of breaking up families and traumatizing immigrants" THEY ARE HERE ILLEGALLY, THEY ARE ALLREADY CRIMINALS!!! And what happens when you arrest someone who KNOWS upon conviction they will be deported? THEY SKIP TRIAL AND KEEP OFFENDING! DUH! I wish newsome and his wanna-be actress wife get gang raped by some of these dirtbags, then maybe he'll get a fookin' clue! In addition to a myriad of other issues, these "youths" often have ZERO I.D. and lie about their age, so they are treated more lightly due to the fact that they are "juviniles" (committing FELONYS!) This is the same douchebag board of supervisors that is passing a law giving "rights" to pets, (ie; you are the pets "guardian" NOT it's "owner"!!!)

-Rocky-

[nycstripes]

Rocky, I did see that. Its a mess. NYC has the same policy for many years. I remember calling INS on multiple occasions as a cop with felony arrests, they NEVER came to the station house about it. They just gave a name and said that they were notified. Now I understand why since it was never explained that we also had a sanctuary policy. It guarantees disaster for the citizens of this country. Drug dealers, robbers, rapists, burglars, pick pocket teams, gang members who commit crimes, ect. Its a huge problem all in the name of a pro-Democratic vote.

[Baasinator]

Originally Posted by nycstripes

Rocky, I did see that. Its a mess. NYC has the same policy for many years. I remember calling INS on multiple occasions as a cop with felony arrests, they NEVER came to the station house about it. They just gave a name and said that they were notified. Now I understand why since it was never explained that we also had a sanctuary policy. It guarantees disaster for the citizens of this country. Drug dealers, robbers, rapists, burglars, pick pocket teams, gang members who commit crimes, ect. Its a huge problem all in the name of a pro-Democratic vote.

It's a problem, but not just a pro-Democrat problem. Remember John McCain?


Once again, we need to understand that there isn't a dime's worth of difference between Republicans and Democrats when you look at the scope of our problems.

[RockyMt]

Yeah, thats right, I see "La Raza" signing up Republicans to vote all the time! (acorn too......... )

-Rocky-

[nycstripes]

Why are there two completely different sets of rules for immigration?

[Area 51]

Originally Posted by RockyMt

THEY ARE HERE ILLEGALLY, THEY ARE ALLREADY CRIMINALS!!! -Rocky-

That's what I say too but technically, apparently, they are not criminals since it is not a crime to enter illegaly. It is an infraction or something like that, but not a crime. More BS.

[Area 51]

Originally Posted by nycstripes

Its a huge problem all in the name of a pro-Democratic vote.

And the Republican agenda of cheap labor supply. They've got one dick in our mouth and one in our ass. Ask XFOB what that feels like .

[twin-nut]

I support deporting all illegals out of principal, but I am encouraged by their willingness to take jobs that legal minorities here won't take out of "principal." Government wellfare/unemployment benefits are to blame.

[Area 51]

I wonder if culture is the reason, and not government policy. It's like, what came first, the chicken or the egg? "Some people" calculate that the time and effort of work is not worth the benefits (but they'll take a freeby of course). I think a certain amount of handout is a calculated cost of doing business, so to speak, for a country. Especially for a country that spends more on military than the rest of the world combined, for instance. But I'm all for experimentation ("Have you ever been experienced?" ). Lets drop all entitlements and see what happens. I think I know what'll happen and it won't be pretty, but it's worth a try just to settle this argument.

Oh, and a hell of a lot of "our" neighbors are getting unemployement right now. Many of them are no different than you or I. Luck plays a part. I'd hate to see some of my neighbors living in their cars. Aren't we better than that?

[RockyMt]

The truly sad part is a lot of those people have paid into the system all their lives, but when it comes time for them, there's no saftey net left, the un-deserving have used it all up..........tragic to say the least.

-Rocky-

[biltforspeed]

Originally Posted by Area 51

they are not criminals since it is not a crime to enter illegaly. .

Well to be exact, if they cross our border without proper documentation, they are ILLEGAL and can be construed as a crime, whether or not you want to call them criminals is sort of a moot point since they don't get processed as a criminal but deported instead.

I think everyone should live in a "border-city", or at least close by for a few months, it might change their mind about granting them so many rights & liberties. They are human beings, but the majority of them are not forced through the border, they come on their own free will, knowing they're entering illegally, and they have a direct negative impact on the cities in close proximity.

While I lived in Tucson for 6 years, two major hospital/medical centers went bankrupt and closed their doors due to millions of dollars of unpaid medical expenses created by illegals brought in by Border Patrol agents. I know this because my best friend and his wife both lost their job when the medical center they worked in shut down. It's pathetic & self-defeating, prop them up while we tear down our own, it's not the way we're going to continue to build a strong nation.

[nycstripes]

Originally Posted by twin-nut

I support deporting all illegals out of principal, but I am encouraged by their willingness to take jobs that legal minorities here won't take out of "principal." Government wellfare/unemployment benefits are to blame.

Nobody is criticizing their work ethic, its a tax/benefit issue. If they work here without paying taxes and get public benefits its costs all of us. If they went through the steps to become legal and paid into the system, nobody would complain much.

[nycstripes]

Originally Posted by biltforspeed

Well to be exact, if they cross our border without proper documentation, they are ILLEGAL and can be construed as a crime, whether or not you want to call them criminals is sort of a moot point since they don't get processed as a criminal but deported instead.

I think everyone should live in a "border-city", or at least close by for a few months, it might change their mind about granting them so many rights & liberties. They are human beings, but the majority of them are not forced through the border, they come on their own free will, knowing they're entering illegally, and they have a direct negative impact on the cities in close proximity.

While I lived in Tucson for 6 years, two major hospital/medical centers went bankrupt and closed their doors due to millions of dollars of unpaid medical expenses created by illegals brought in by Border Patrol agents. I know this because my best friend and his wife both lost their job when the medical center they worked in shut down. It's pathetic & self-defeating, prop them up while we tear down our own, it's not the way we're going to continue to build a strong nation.

well said.

[Area 51]

Originally Posted by nycstripes

Nobody is criticizing their work ethic, its a tax/benefit issue. If they work here without paying taxes and get public benefits its costs all of us. If they went through the steps to become legal and paid into the system, nobody would complain much.

The only ones who don't pay taxes are the ones who are payed in cash. Those who receive a paycheck are paying taxes. And they will never collect their social security unless they somehow become legal. This situation is part of what is propping up our SS system. It's one of the reasons that the politicians have not put a stop to illegal immigration. That's my understanding of the situation anyway.

On border cities, I think we're all pretty aware of that problem. In fact, I remember 60 Minutes doing a story on a hospital in Maricopa County, AZ. Something like 80 to 90 % of the births there were to illegal moms. The very first thing that this country should do is end the birth-right citizenship under the fourteenth ammendment. The time that it made sense has long since passed.

[nycstripes]

That's not true either. There are plenty of SS checks cut to non-citizens.

I do agree with you about the granting of citizenship for children born here to illegal immigrant parents..ie: anchor babies. Good luck getting any support for ending that from your state...or even mine for that matter.