Glenn Beck vs. Van Jones

[Baasinator]

Does anybody else think this whole thing is hilarious? Jones organizes a boycott against Beck claiming that Beck is racist, Beck calls Jones a racist and a weirdo, Beck's ratings improve, and Jones loses his job. Good work, Obama administration!

[RockyMt]

We've (the Bay Area) been subjected to his (jones') bullshit ideology for a few years now, he's been quite the darling of the upper class/white guilt/progressive scene here. I LOVED it when barry tagged him as his "green energy czar", as I KNEW he'd get his dick slammed in the door of DC politics. The moron has a mouth bigger than "Reverend White". And THAT'S sayin' something. Buh-bye cleve, back to acorn you go......He'll probably show up as a "special ASSistant" to maxine waters, and continue to feed at the public trough, in govt or a university, much easier than having a REAL job!

-Rocky-

[nero]

CLINK, clink...

[Area 51]

Rocky
nero
Rocky
nero
Geez, enough already. Do you guys share a computer as well as underwear? Is nero Rocky?
You're freaking me out, man.

Oh, you're right for a change, coRky - on Jones, that is.

[nero]

chill area,
go vaporize something green.
it'll relax you bonehead.

[nycstripes]

Glen Beck might be a clown and would probably have no trouble admitting to being so, but he handily dispatched Van Jones all by himself. Other news entities made no attempt to inform the US public about the radical nature of this political hack.
Obama's rookie year is shaping up to be a real mess. 1 down, 34 to go.

[Le Kiwi]

Jones was a good man, and a visionary.
Beck is a simpering fascist running dog licking at the trough of his corporate whore masters.

Same shit, different day.

I guess I shouldn't be surprised that someone who speaks the truth (calling Republicans "assholes" for example..) would be lambasted by the Reich-wing and it's jeering poltroon Beck. That's always the way tyranny starts. Silence the truth-speakers.

Of course, the simple-minded, propaganda-fed fools and gullible sheeple, or Rocky and Nero (Nerocky ?) will believe that Van was "am evil Marxist who am hatin' America...and am racist and hate teh polis" because Beck sneeringly feeds their ignorance.

Yeah, Van sounds like a Marxist...

"We are entering an era during which our very survival will demand invention and innovation on a scale never before seen in the history of human civilization. Only the business community has the requisite skills, experience, and capital to meet that need. On that score, neither government nor the nonprofit and voluntary sectors can compete, not even remotely.

So in the end, our success and survival as a species are largely and directly tied to the new eco-entrepreneurs — and the success and survival of their enterprises.
Since almost all of the needed eco-technologies are likely to come from the private sector, civic leaders and voters should do all that can be done to help green business leaders succeed.
That means, in large part, electing leaders who will pass bills to aid them. We cannot realistically proceed without a strong alliance between the best of the business world —and everyone else."


Luckily he's not the sort of sneering, vicious yellow jerk that Beck is.

"On the eve of historic fights for health care and clean energy, opponents of reform have mounted a vicious smear campaign against me. They are using lies and distortions to distract and divide.

I have been inundated with calls -- from across the political spectrum -- urging me to 'stay and fight.' But I came here to fight for others, not for myself.

I cannot in good conscience ask my colleagues to expend precious time and energy defending or explaining my past. We need all hands on deck, fighting for the future."


Bravo.


"The bombs the government drops in Iraq are the bombs that blew up in New York City. The US cannot bomb its way out of this one. Safety at home requires justice abroad."

--Van Jones

Speak Truth To Power Defender

[nero]

Originally Posted by Le Kiwi

Jones was a good man, and a visionary...I guess I shouldn't be surprised that someone who speaks the truth (calling Republicans "assholes" for example..would be lambasted by the Reich-wing and it's jeering poltroon Beck....Of course, the simple-minded, propaganda-fed fools and gullible sheeple, or Rocky and Nero (Nerocky ?) Van was "am evil Marxist who am hatin' America...and am racist and hate teh polis" because Beck sneeringly feeds their ignorance.

Yeah, Van sounds like a Marxist...

"We are entering an era during which our very survival will demand invention and innovation on a scale never before seen in the history of human civilization. Only the business community has the requisite skills, experience, and capital to meet that need. On that score, neither government nor the nonprofit and voluntary sectors can compete, not even remotely.

So in the end, our success and survival as a species are largely and directly tied to the new eco-entrepreneurs — and the success and survival of their enterprises.
Since almost all of the needed eco-technologies are likely to come from the private sector, civic leaders and voters should do all that can be done to help green business leaders succeed.
That means, in large part, electing leaders who will pass bills to aid them. We cannot realistically proceed without a strong alliance between the best of the business world —and everyone else."


Luckily he's not the sort of sneering, vicious yellow jerk that Beck is.

"On the eve of historic fights for health care and clean energy, opponents of reform have mounted a vicious smear campaign against me. They are using lies and distortions to distract and divide.

I have been inundated with calls -- from across the political spectrum -- urging me to 'stay and fight.' But I came here to fight for others, not for myself.

I cannot in good conscience ask my colleagues to expend precious time and energy defending or explaining my past. We need all hands on deck, fighting for the future."


Bravo.


"The bombs the government drops in Iraq are the bombs that blew up in New York City. The US cannot bomb its way out of this one. Safety at home requires justice abroad."

--Van Jones

Speak Truth To Power Defender

LeZeroGag, ( and I believe you deserve that amalgamation now too ) whenever the light is shined on marxists / socialists, they scatter like rats or cockroaches from a flashlite's beam. Also, the worldwide community of "useful idiots" ( of which the three of you belong ) begin sobbing and whining and striking out at those who expose the rats and roaches. Never do they account for the track record of socialist past and if pressured to explain the history of their creed, they only can mutter that "it was just necessary to do these things to achieve the ends". Uncle Joe for ex.

How pitiful it's track record. How pathetic the useful idiots of the world. They are many and I believe it comes from the college and university professors of our time. Or at least since Karl M started preaching his new religion. Can you not learn from the past or is the track record of death and misery that socialism has left appealing to you ?


I'm not sure it's possible to find a more pathetic social path than the one you've adopted.

[Le Kiwi]

Yet, dear comrade Nerocky, if you had bothered to learn up on "comrade" Van, instead of swallowing your Beck in a single gulp, you'd have understood that he spurned Stalin and the other scumbags as much as you.

Being open to the ideas of Marxism, which, incidentally, has proved utterly accurate and startlingly precise concerning the inevitable demise of our current greed-based system does NOT mean that you happy-clapped along to whatever comrade Joe or the other perverter's of the Socialist ideal got up to.

One of the things many on the Right overlook is that we're NOT blinded by dogma, out here on the Left. Autocriticism is a primary part of understanding Marxist principles, and if you actually climbed, slightly groggily and weaving a little, down off your high bar horse and bothered to listen to what Van Jones actually says, maybe you'd be agreeably surprised at how people can change as they grow and understand Reality.

Being a radical in your youth is par-for-the-course, but this generally evolves over time into a person of surprising insight and wisdom. Unlike, sadly, many Connedservatives, who are rigidly hard-wired into their dogmatic straight-jackets. See Rocky for further examples.

That, BTW, is a shame.

Clink clink.

[Baasinator]

I couldn't care less what Van Jones thinks. I just love watching somebody get their ass kicked after picking a fight.

And the idea that he was acting alone is laughable, too. Let's see, it's the biggest job of his life. But he's going to throw that away by getting into a pissing match in his spare time with a TV personality who insulted his boss? OK...

[nycstripes]

next....Van Jones is history. Let him crawl back into the dark pit of communist snakes that spawned him. He and his type will not be missed.

[Baasinator]

Originally Posted by nycstripes

next...

Fair enough...

Now can we talk about that horrible speech Obama gave to the school kids today? Shame on him! I kid... I kid...

Let's talk about Rangel. He still has a job for some reason.

[RockyMt]

Unfortunately, I fear we haven't heard the last of Mr. jones. I'm sure he's lined up another position at the public trough, probably back into the trainwreck of an administration/city that Oakland Ca.is. Surely he'll also hit the lecture merry-go-round and cash in on his newfound fame as the whipping boy of the Right Wing, he could expouse to all on his support of convicted cop killers, communisim, or how the Bush admin. masterminded (with help from the evil Zionists) the attacks of 9/11, and how we all deserved it. Or maybe how "white America" is intentionally poisioning blacks is a plan Himmler would be proud of..........Mark my words, van's another attention whore who won't go away when he's exposed, he'll just become a higher profile "victim". Makes you wonder how fookin' clueless the barry White House is to not have seen this coming fromm a mile away, his reputation preceeds him by years, great job of vetting out the flakes ladies.....

-Rocky-

[Gog]

The real point is: Anyone watching. listening or "tuning in" to Glenn Beck, for information, is an asshole, pretty simple. The guy is a total wanker deluxe. I mean, if you tune into him for pretty much ANY reason, you gotta be some kind of dipshit yourself... It kinda makes you related to the ass who gives money to TV evangelists who are filthy rich perverted liars. You give your time to Glenn Beck...hahahahah. One simple minute of watching/listening should do it for ya, you dont have instincts left? Of course, if they talk anti liberal, democratic witch hunting bullshite, you guys are in like the peanut gallery, damn the instincts! Ya, God really thinks the world of your hate speech and lust for conflict.

Who are you NOT tuning into for good information and direction?

The tiny, minuscule of a micro excuse left to call yourselves "conservatives" is just pathetic. You're really medieval scribes that pick the weakest men and women to shout the loudest in fields that need our smartest, best and brightest... STFU!!!!
Oooo the mongol hoards that surround you, ooo the Muslims, oooo the French.. ooo the "others"...F that. As if that substitutes for quality philosophy, science or spirituality. F that.

I dont get the endless political parade of right wing idiots. WhereTF do you find these hillbilly asswipes and why do you propagate their utter childishness? Is there nobody left on the right, who can talk sense? Go ahead, back up. The old right wing reversal is just juvenile crap: deny we've failed beyond measure, deny we're frothing racists, homophobes, zealots and environmental buffoons... say you're not but demonstrate you are.
You guys wave your dicks at Beck and Rush and Hannity and all the douchebags that spell guaranteed failure. ..lol Wanky beyond measure.
What does it take? More Palin crap? More Bush style catastrophic disasters? More division, lies, poor quality, bad value, narrow vision and revision of reality? More piss poor management?< translation to conservaspeak=deregulate. Instead of being ashamed and humiliated by the deceptive performance and hypocrisy of your elected leaders you just parrot the horrid party line of stay the course? WHy even your uber idiot said "It was never about stay the course"...heheh

The only thing you seem to have left is reassuring yourselves between yourselves...
Try reinventing yourselves... it's overdue.

[G8RDuc]

Yet people like yourself brag about Al Franken or Bill Maher...

Originally Posted by Gog

The real point is: Anyone watching. listening or "tuning in" to Glenn Beck, for information, is an asshole, pretty simple. The guy is a total wanker deluxe. I mean, if you tune into him for pretty much ANY reason, you gotta be some kind of dipshit yourself...

[Baasinator]

Originally Posted by Gog

The real point is: Anyone watching. listening or "tuning in" to Glenn Beck, for information, is an asshole, pretty simple.

Of course I didn't read the rest, but FYI I've never seen Glenn Beck's FOX show. Not once. I did see his old CNN show a few times when I was in a hotel that only had 13 channels. I thought he was very annoying, even if I agreed with what he was saying. And then I heard him on the radio twice in Indiana. I thought he was easier to listen to, but still annoying.

[nycstripes]

Nothing changes the fact that Beck dismissed this radical asshole with a little bit of light projected in the direction of the Whitehouse...


If any of the mainstream news agencies would have picked up on this, Beck wouldn't have gotten nearly half of the press he's getting over it. Name one major news source that made an issue over Van Jones' unsuitability for the position...Beck might be annoying..but he was right.

[Baasinator]

Originally Posted by nycstripes

Beck might be annoying..but he was right.

I think that's often the case! I usually agree with what I hear he's saying, or things I used to see him write for cnn.com. I think his personality just rubs me the wrong way, but that's true of most of these professional commentators. I'll check out his books eventually, I'm sure.

Actually, I might start watching him this week just as a tribute to Gog.

[Gog]

Originally Posted by Baasinator

I think that's often the case! I usually agree with what I hear he's saying, or things I used to see him write for cnn.com. I think his personality just rubs me the wrong way, but that's true of most of these professional commentators. I'll check out his books eventually, I'm sure.

Actually, I might start watching him this week just as a tribute to Gog.

Noooooo!
I dont listen to leftist bull dung anyhow, not even as homage or tribute to you guys. Not even to counter the uber crap that is oozing out of right wing central.
What we need is common, smart and credible assessment of today's situation. Not suspicious crap about C Marx & Co. The evil socialists/communists/domestic terrawrists. haha. Like I said before, at least, when it comes to socialism, there's something to show for it. Not like Enron, Exxon or Wall St. pulling ponzis on stupidos who salute goldfish in the name of fear and loathing. You cant have your Ron Paul's and eat Rush Limbaugh's too.
Marx & friends said what they said, they reasoned what they thought was best for what they knew. We know more and we know better. Not much to fear there folks.
Cant imagine ANYONE lashing out against Darwin these days..still, they do! Cant imagine anyone feeling warm and fuzzies regarding Sarah Palin et ilk..however, they do. Best load up the silver seeds and ship the senseless off to the starfields...

[RockyMt]

Lemme see, you say "God dislike hate speech" and then go on to call anyone who you dis-agree with "asshole", "wanker", "dipshit", and "hillbilly asshole" among others......Your lack of class is eclipsed only by your hypocricy. When the left wants to pigeonhole someone they'll call them "birther" in reference to the allegations that barry wasn't born in the US, but when someone from the left spouts off that 9/11 was a Bush & Co. plot, they get a pass, no? Or when they defend cop killers, they're just "questioning authority" YOU sir are as blinded (no make that MORE blinded) by your dogma than those you attempt to disparrage. YOU sir are about as "fringe group" as they come, look in the mirror.

-Rocky-