I hope they legalize it nationwide... regulate it, tax it, and stop sending people to jail for stupid stuff like minor possession. We've got worse criminals our cops should be looking for.
the "drug war" erodes personal freedom/responsibility, fills prisons, feeds violent criminal cartels, bloats government... but maybe some illicit proceeds will be funneled to the Contras
There's waaaay too many people making waaay too much money on the "war on drugs...."
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Gambler, what the hell you doin'. Your little Scott Baio post is pure and absolute BS. How could anyone not know that? Do you know that?
Never in the history of mankind has there ever been a recorded case of ANYONE dying from pot overdose, period.
I'm gussing your ferry-in-red photo is a gag since there are only 37 million people in Cali.
Should marijuana be legalized?
Hell no! You'd have to grow twice as much to make a living.
What the government needs to do is get all these muther phuckin' Mexicans out of our national forests and send them back to Mexico. That's job one. Job two is respecting states rights and keeping the feds jack boots off our necks. Job three is destroying gang activity in inner cities. Job four is eliminating the influence of political contributions by corporations. Job five is to go back and do the other jobs right.
__________________ "...let us not ignore the truth among ourselves, that we are the aggressors and they defend themselves. The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down."
David Ben-Gurion (the father of Israel) "When fascism comes to America it will be draped in a flag and holding a cross." Sinclair Lewis I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands. One nation, indivisible, with liberty, and justice for all.
If Area51 finds out about this, his carbon footprint will be gi-normous as he bong-vaporizes whole forests of weed.
Actually, there is no combustion in the vaporizing process. You're merely heating the fluids to the point of vaporization but not burning the solids. You see, pot heads be green people (most of them).
Nero, since you're a cheap bastard, you might want to try eating your stash. That way it lasts for hours and any cheap stuff will work (even leaves). Let me know if you need help with anything else.
__________________ "...let us not ignore the truth among ourselves, that we are the aggressors and they defend themselves. The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down."
David Ben-Gurion (the father of Israel) "When fascism comes to America it will be draped in a flag and holding a cross." Sinclair Lewis I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands. One nation, indivisible, with liberty, and justice for all.
I find ironic that the State which has been so instrumental in banning tobacco smoking pretty much everywhere in the civilized world is considering legalizing another kind of smoke.
Also how will the repression apparatus respond? Roughly half of the persons in jail in the US (and Europe) are there because of drug-related crimes, mostly possession and sale. Legalize hemp and you'd have policemen, wardens, attorneys, judges etc in open riot since they'd be losing a fair share of their power. And if I remember correctly some of these unions are among the most powerful pressure gourps in California.
Also how about people in jail on hemp-related charges? Would they be pardoned?
I hope they legalize it nationwide... regulate it, tax it, and stop sending people to jail for stupid stuff like minor possession. We've got worse criminals our cops should be looking for.
This in another fine example of ignorance in this country......ppl with "minor possession" do NOT go to jail.
So let's look for another 'valid' reason to legalize it, ok kid.
This in another fine example of ignorance in this country......ppl with "minor possession" do NOT go to jail. Not so black and white!
So let's look for another 'valid' reason to legalize it, ok kid.
Depends how many convictions they have. The pro pot ideas are NOT just the ideology behind legal debates but the negative expenses of having police chase, arrest, transport and testify against "drug people" while raping and thieving people get away with murder.
The costs of jails, courts, cops and others. The profits made by really, really bad folks. The infringement on privacy, the fear of relaxation! Oh the priorities!
but the negative expenses of having police chase, arrest, transport and testify against "drug people" while raping and thieving people get away with murder.
Yes cuz the police dont care about those kind of crimes they just focus on the druggies.
Yes cuz the police dont care about those kind of crimes they just focus on the druggies.
It's not an emotional issue.
Do the benefits outweigh the risks? Do the costs of regulation and punishment reflect the damages wrought upon society? Cannabis is not opium, moonshine is not beer. Go read up on prohibition. See who got rich, who got dead and who acted retarded and religiously perverted against all logic, common sense or sustainability!
Americans love to drink! We could probably agree that bad drugs are bad and it takes good cops to fight the bad guys. You could probably agree with me that most cops dont want to bust easy going, responsible citizens because they like to giggle or chill, in private with respect to others.
It wouldnt be that bad if it was handled like beer sales. Safer, cleaner and putting many bad guys outta business whilst making quid.
I have always had problems with the whole drugs/alcohol/smoking thing.
Hemp is bad for your health? So is tobacco. So is alcohol.
So why I can buy legally enough cigarettes and booze to destroy my lungs and liver but not hemp?
And if health is the major driving force behind hemp prohibition why not apply the same treatment to alcohol and tobacco?
One answer may be the fact that while booze has been around as long as civilization and tobacco became a hit once man set foot in the Americas, hemp began gaining popularity in the first days of mass medias. In the '30s you had all kinds of newspaper articles about the dangers of marijuana. You had radio shows and you had short movies showing the "horrors" of hemp use. Often these things were so ridicously bad and inaccurate as to be laughable nowadays (look up "Reefer Madness" on Youtube and prepare to laugh) but back at the time they were believed by people.
Also marijuana was usually associated at the time with Mexicans and other "outcasts" and "unwanted": back then everybody could grow its own so it was the poor man's way of "getting out" of everyday's misery.
Hell, but I am no sociologist so my guess is as good as anybody else's.
I have always had problems with the whole drugs/alcohol/smoking thing.
Hemp is bad for your health? So is tobacco. So is alcohol.
So why I can buy legally enough cigarettes and booze to destroy my lungs and liver but not hemp?
And if health is the major driving force behind hemp prohibition why not apply the same treatment to alcohol and tobacco?
One answer may be the fact that while booze has been around as long as civilization and tobacco became a hit once man set foot in the Americas, hemp began gaining popularity in the first days of mass medias. In the '30s you had all kinds of newspaper articles about the dangers of marijuana. You had radio shows and you had short movies showing the "horrors" of hemp use. Often these things were so ridicously bad and inaccurate as to be laughable nowadays (look up "Reefer Madness" on Youtube and prepare to laugh) but back at the time they were believed by people.
Also marijuana was usually associated at the time with Mexicans and other "outcasts" and "unwanted": back then everybody could grow its own so it was the poor man's way of "getting out" of everyday's misery.
Hell, but I am no sociologist so my guess is as good as anybody else's.
I remember reading, years ago, that business had something to do with the outlawing of hemp. Something to do with hemp products outselling the competition. I am too lazy to google it... Area51? What's the history?
Sadly, I don't see it becoming truly "legalized" because there is no currently available test to determine wether you are currently "high" only that you have recently (the last 45 days or so) used. THAT's the key, as insurance companys need a reliable field test as with alcohol to determine if you are CURRENTLY under the influence. Until then, their money and lobbyists will kill any bill.
Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, because they live in the gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat."
The Donald Scott case = Scary... I can earnestly say that if he was my Kin they murdered, there would have been at least one cop who would have had his smile physically removed from his face with extreme prejudice.
Yes, there was also that issue abot hemp.
Most of the paper produced before the '20s was made using hemp: it was the simpler and cheaper way to make paper back then, thanks in no small part to the large US hemp-growing industry, an heritage from the English rule (hemp being turned into ropes and riggings used on both Indiamen and man'o'war... just in case somebody had different ideas). Dupont had envisioned a process to make cheap paper out of woodpulp (the vast expanses of the Pacific Northwest having recently been opened to logging), problem is hemp-paper was still so cheap as to be a formidable opponent. So Dupont jumped on the prohibition bandwagon throwing its financial and political might in.
That's easy. Just tell the suspect, "Here's a cookie. If you eat it, I'll arrest you." If they can't keep from eating it then they are under the influence.
Seriously, I gotta say, isn't it absolutely spinelessley pathetic how all that matters is money? Never mind that it's just a wonderfully enjoyable plant that does no significant harm on it's own. "We need money so now we want it legalized - just so we can tax it." It makes me wonder, do these people have a moral compass or do they just love taxes? The hypocritic irony of the sudden call to legalize is inescapable.
__________________ "...let us not ignore the truth among ourselves, that we are the aggressors and they defend themselves. The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down."
David Ben-Gurion (the father of Israel) "When fascism comes to America it will be draped in a flag and holding a cross." Sinclair Lewis I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands. One nation, indivisible, with liberty, and justice for all.
Could legal marijuana help California's finances?
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