BTW, to another poster asking about his mother being a US citizen makes him a citizen is true. But the requirement for President is a naturally-born US citizen. This means physically born in the US or one of its protectorates. John McCain was born in Panama, but he was still naturally born because his father was in the military and thus the base is considered US soil.
If Obama was born in Kenya, he would not be eligible to hold office. Simple as that.
one thing people need to get straight before they go shooting off at the mouth is how wrong the assumtion is that just because i detest Obama means im in love with Bush.......wrong wrong wrong..... although i do believe the economic status of our country was not all Bush's fault ( it actually started way back with Carter when he signed bills requiring banks to lend money for homes to unworthy buyers) but i do think Bush is an idiot.......he was the leader of our country and he could hardly hold a conversation without studdering all over himself.....everyone knows he had an oil adgenda and all the other things that we know he screwed up (yes he was a PART of the economy) ...... I do not support Bush, I do think we need change, just not in the form of the single most liberal voting political officer ever in history. If you think Bush was too conservitive just wait till Obama is done and the pendulum swings away from his crazy liberalism. and for some of you to say that things like the birth certificate are rummors (the cert from snopes was proven to be a fake, it has the exact same markings and imperfections as a blank copy that was used to create other fakes just like it).....you are cowards afraid of the ugly truth about a man you voted for.... and i dont blame you , who would want to admit that they voted for a person like Obama unless you immediately dismiss any negative FACTS as soon as you hear them.
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Oh, do tell, what exactly does "a person like Obama" mean? That is the kind of phrase that NEEDS to be explained.
Also (your sounding a little crazy), who proved the birth certificate that is listed at Snopes to be false? Snopes is highly respected by both liberals and conservatives - it is about as nuetral as you can get. I get the funny feeling that you heard this BS on Rush.
__________________ "...let us not ignore the truth among ourselves, that we are the aggressors and they defend themselves. The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down."
David Ben-Gurion (the father of Israel) "When fascism comes to America it will be draped in a flag and holding a cross." Sinclair Lewis I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands. One nation, indivisible, with liberty, and justice for all.
-read my first post....its just a few down from the top of this thread......but if that stuff doesn't do it for ya,
a person that does no like saying the pledge
a person who thinks that our national anthem is a sign of oppression, not a song of victory, pride and patriotism
a person who married a woman who thinks that the black race is far superior to the white race (please note her thesis paper that she wrote while in Princeton)
a person who serves on "educational boards" only to re-route money to accorn affiliated groups and watch the actual education system tumble as test scores and student ratings plumited
a person who chose to have his "meet the candidate" gathering IN THE LIVING ROOM of a known anti-American Socialist ex-terrorist who still thinks about his bombing career "we didn't do enough"
a person who said he would "stand by his Muslim brothers" if things got bad
i could go on like this all day.....but it seems pretty clear to me that you are going to jump to conclusions, think that i sit around giving Rush and Bush slowjax.....
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I've gotta go but I'll read your first post later.
On your little YouTube smear:
This calls for a RTFLMAO. How pathetic. In fact, desperately pathetic. I don't know if your trying to be funny or are just sick. Anyway, we'll talk later.
__________________ "...let us not ignore the truth among ourselves, that we are the aggressors and they defend themselves. The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down."
David Ben-Gurion (the father of Israel) "When fascism comes to America it will be draped in a flag and holding a cross." Sinclair Lewis I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands. One nation, indivisible, with liberty, and justice for all.
yeah uh... i dont see the comedy in a forged birth certificate.......seeing as he is our prez now and all. and even if the youtuber is a faux....with all the question still out about his birthplace, if he was truly born here, why does Obama not hold a 10 minute press conference and present his damned birth certificate. why o why whould a person ignore, hide from, and avoid a very serious issue unless he had something to hide.......i mean, if i was trying to get a job and the employer asked me for a copy of me birth certificate i would go to my files grab it, show it to him, and make a frigin copy.....its not like there is anything embarassing on it.......its a birth certificate for Gods sake, show the think so idiots like me can shut about it.....and if he cant provide one himself that isnt forged, his birth should be further investigated.....
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One last question, and try not to run away from it.......in the majority if not all major cities where the schools are FUBAR'ED what party do you think is primarily in control?
STILL WAITING A51.....
I'll let you answer the question before I continue my rant.
Be more specific, wibbly, how is this nation destroyed?
Wibbly, what about you man? The USA is destoyed how?
the state of your nation bre-bush compared to post-bush is a disgrace.... the word "Destroyed" was obviously used to get a point across, but it's pretty clear you're in FAR worse shape for having Bush in the whitehouse than you perhaps may have been.
although i don't think al gore would have been any good either, but maybe if he were president he'd have had less time to blow off all his global warming co2 bullshit.
either way you guys are ****ed, we're ****ed, everyone's ****ed. and there doesn't really seem to be anything any cocksucking president can do about it
I agree with the majority of what you said, just want you to expand on this thought a bit.
thanks
Thanks for the compliment. I haven't got the time to examine every single member of the Obama "cabinet" but here are a selected few:
Dennis Ross, chief advisor for the Middle East and "special envoy" to Iran. His avowed sympathy for Israel does not make him the ideal candidate to talk to Iranian leaders (Ahmaminedjad is just a puppet: US politicians should do as Putin did and talk with Ayatollah Sistani directly. He's the one running the show). Worse yet his interventionist ideas are very well known and Palestinians remember very well how he pushed the US to support settlements in the West Bank back in the '90s.
Rahm Emmanuel, Chief of Staff. He was a dual US-Israeli citizen, don't know if he renounced the latter. During the First Gulf War he joined the army. No, not the US Army, fighting to liberate Kuwait, but the T'sa'hal, the Israeli Army. He is a staunch supporter of any Middle East venture that can help Israel becoming the hegemon power. In short he's an hardcore Neo-Sionist.
Robert Gates at the DoD. He staunchly supports an Afghanistan "surge" of roughly 70.000 men, bad enough for me. Not only that but he hasn't got much sympathy for the Russians, which happen to own an impressive nuclear arsenal and immense natural resources many faithful US allies depend on. Obama is wisely trying to appease the Russians on the "Western" front (Eastern Europe) but what about Central Asia, an area the Russians have always considered their backyard?
Hillary Clinton at Foggy Bottom. She's a shrewd politician but sadly she's also absolutely ruthless. She pushed her reluctant husband into sending troops to Haiti and Somalia, areas which posed zero threats to US interests, in a well calculated move to win the sympathies of the strong Black Democratic wing. She unconditionally approved the war in the Balkans, whose long-term consequencies are just beginning to show up. Finally she is not very much into trying to find a peaceful solution to the Iranian "problem".
As Murray Rothbard said "Are we to be spared nothing?".
the state of your nation bre-bush compared to post-bush is a disgrace.... the word "Destroyed" was obviously used to get a point across, but it's pretty clear you're in FAR worse shape for having Bush in the whitehouse than you perhaps may have been.
although i don't think al gore would have been any good either, but maybe if he were president he'd have had less time to blow off all his global warming co2 bullshit.
either way you guys are ****ed, we're ****ed, everyone's ****ed. and there doesn't really seem to be anything any cocksucking president can do about it
Thnx but as an American living here I dont quite see the "destruction" as outsiders do.
Unfortunately for Bush, he inherited Office from a do nothing towards an organization that despised us far before he ever stepped foot inside the WH.
-read my first post....its just a few down from the top of this thread......but if that stuff doesn't do it for ya,
a person that does no like saying the pledge Rush Limbaugh
a person who thinks that our national anthem is a sign of oppression, not a song of victory, pride and patriotism Rush Limbaugh
a person who married a woman who thinks that the black race is far superior to the white race (please note her thesis paper that she wrote while in Princeton) Anne Coulter
a person who serves on "educational boards" only to re-route money to accorn affiliated groups and watch the actual education system tumble as test scores and student ratings plumited Rush Limbaugh
a person who chose to have his "meet the candidate" gathering IN THE LIVING ROOM of a known anti-American Socialist ex-terrorist who still thinks about his bombing career "we didn't do enough" G Gordon Liddy
a person who said he would "stand by his Muslim brothers" if things got bad Rev Falwell... He did fall well didn't he?
i could go on like this all day.... No doubt
.but it seems pretty clear to me that you are going to jump to conclusions, think that i sit around giving Rush and Bush slowjax.....
XFBO, I'll try to answer your question. While I'm no sure about the major cities with failing school, and I would venture a guess that your under the assumption that those cities were under democratic control at the time since they were major cities... This problem extends far beyond the major cities though, also as in a lot of areas since school funding is determined by property taxes the schools in nicer areas tend to have better funding regardless of who is in office.
The only city where I have personal experience was in a predominately republican controlled county and we had Jeb Bush as our governor. During that time the funding for our school completely collapsed, to the point where the administrators had to buy paper to make photocopies of referrals because the school couldn't afford the carbon paper they are usually on. Also the lunch completely sucked, the school could only afford nachos or crappy chicken sandwiches so that's what we ate for almost every single meal. All of those funding problems were caused almost completely by Jeb Bush's policies. From what I hear from my friends who are now working in the education system (that graduated at the same time as I did) conditions are even worse now due to the failed no child left behind program.
Thnx but as an American living here I dont quite see the "destruction" as outsiders do.
Unfortunately for Bush, he inherited Office from a do nothing towards an organization that despised us far before he ever stepped foot inside the WH.
9/11 changed everything.
yeah 9/11 did change everything.. it created the biggest excuse in the world to start the biggest mess of a war... i honestly don't think you can legitimately justify any of the war measures from gwb's regime outside of the initial invasion of afganistan. the sheer fact alone that they didn't even capture bin laden (who was supposedly responsible) shows how important 9/11 really was... yeah, major event, but they seemed more interested in bringing to justice sadaam than bin laden. weird.
Some analysts, more versed into the economics than their colleagues, are beginning to liken the Bush/Obama transition phase to the Hoover/Roosevelt transition phase.
In short we have a recession starting because of bad monetary politics which is turned into the Great Depression by an obstinate interventionist policy. Most of all ordinary folks know quite well that pumping money into moribund institutions is not only morally wrong, since the money is taken through one mean or another from the productive areas of the economy (honest hardworking Joes), but also useless. Just look at the British car industry for a clear example: not even direct government ownership could save it in the end.
To learn more read Murray Rothbard's America's Great Depression : it can be read for free here http://mises.org/rothbard/agd.pdf .
XFBO, I'll try to answer your question. While I'm no sure about the major cities with failing school, and I would venture a guess that your under the assumption that those cities were under democratic control at the time since they were major cities... This problem extends far beyond the major cities though, also as in a lot of areas since school funding is determined by property taxes the schools in nicer areas tend to have better funding regardless of who is in office.
The only city where I have personal experience was in a predominately republican controlled county and we had Jeb Bush as our governor. During that time the funding for our school completely collapsed, to the point where the administrators had to buy paper to make photocopies of referrals because the school couldn't afford the carbon paper they are usually on. Also the lunch completely sucked, the school could only afford nachos or crappy chicken sandwiches so that's what we ate for almost every single meal. All of those funding problems were caused almost completely by Jeb Bush's policies. From what I hear from my friends who are now working in the education system (that graduated at the same time as I did) conditions are even worse now due to the failed no child left behind program.
IBD- thank you for taking a stab at it but it lacks detail.
If we use all major cities in this country as an example, you'd be hard pressed to find one that's been republican controlled long enough to have made a difference.....if at all. Personally, a democratically controlled city, even if located, inside a predominantly republican controlled county or state doesnt mean anything to me. For starters, I'd like to know where that's the case cuz most times the city population dwarfs the remaining county usually making it democratically in control.
Just for giggles, let's use Chicago for an example. The city, county and state are all democratically controlled iirc. But yet their public school system is in shambles, ashame that Barry couldnt fix that before moving onto larger projects.
My position is that the democratic party has too many ideas for spending and not enough money to go around. The failing schools in their control seem to strengthen my view.
yeah uh... i dont see the comedy in a forged birth certificate.......seeing as he is our prez now and all. and even if the youtuber is a faux....with all the question still out about his birthplace, if he was truly born here, why does Obama not hold a 10 minute press conference and present his damned birth certificate. why o why whould a person ignore, hide from, and avoid a very serious issue unless he had something to hide.......i mean, if i was trying to get a job and the employer asked me for a copy of me birth certificate i would go to my files grab it, show it to him, and make a frigin copy.....its not like there is anything embarassing on it.......its a birth certificate for Gods sake, show the think so idiots like me can shut about it.....and if he cant provide one himself that isnt forged, his birth should be further investigated.....
Please excuse my language but...you dumb ****! What do you think, anyone who runs for President is not fully vetted by our government, probably the CIA? If you don't qualify, your campaign will never even find the light of day. I swear, the rumours and inuendo that people will buy into is amazing. Did you go to college? Did you even graduate from high school? Stop listening to the rumour mill because you obviously are not able to discern the difference between truth and complete bullshit.
Did you happen to vote?
__________________ "...let us not ignore the truth among ourselves, that we are the aggressors and they defend themselves. The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down."
David Ben-Gurion (the father of Israel) "When fascism comes to America it will be draped in a flag and holding a cross." Sinclair Lewis I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands. One nation, indivisible, with liberty, and justice for all.
Unfortunately for Bush, he inherited Office from a do nothing towards an organization that despised us far before he ever stepped foot inside the WH.
9/11 changed everything.
You just shot down your own argument. 9/11 changed everything. Bush would have done pretty much the same thing Clinton did pre-9/11. Clinton would have done pretty much what Bush did post 9/11 (except for blow our wad in Iraq).
And lets not forget how Richard Clark tried and tried to get the Bush boys to take al Qaeda seriously - but they were focused on Saddam from day one. And lets not forget the NIE that Bush got saying "al Qaeda preparing to strike inside the United States". And let's not forget Condolezza Rice not doing her job, being Bush's Yes Mamm. Any time you compare Bush to Clinton, concerning al Qaeda, you loose.
__________________ "...let us not ignore the truth among ourselves, that we are the aggressors and they defend themselves. The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down."
David Ben-Gurion (the father of Israel) "When fascism comes to America it will be draped in a flag and holding a cross." Sinclair Lewis I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands. One nation, indivisible, with liberty, and justice for all.
although i do believe the economic status of our country was not all Bush's fault ( it actually started way back with Carter when he signed bills requiring banks to lend money for homes to unworthy buyers) but i do think Bush is an idiot.......he was the leader of our country and he could hardly hold a conversation without studdering all over himself.....everyone knows he had an oil adgenda and all the other things that we know he screwed up (yes he was a PART of the economy) ...... I do not support Bush, I do think we need change, just not in the form of the single most liberal voting political officer ever in history. If you think Bush was too conservitive just wait till Obama is done and the pendulum swings away from his crazy liberalism. and for some of you to say that things like the birth certificate are rummors (the cert from snopes was proven to be a fake, it has the exact same markings and imperfections as a blank copy that was used to create other fakes just like it).....you are cowards afraid of the ugly truth about a man you voted for.... and i dont blame you , who would want to admit that they voted for a person like Obama unless you immediately dismiss any negative FACTS as soon as you hear them.
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