Wow!!!! Eye opening, nothing I didn't already assume, but wow!! Just wow....I/We can only hope he does well, and brings us all wealth prosperiety, and protects our civil liberties...excuse me now, I need to go shove my head back into the sand....
Go sit through a jury duty panel and you'll find people are equally clueless on multiple levels. You'll find that your average citizen is happily living in the dark. Ignorance is truly Bliss.
Gives credence to the notion that Americans have been dumbed down for decades.
We'll see how things go after the transition happens, but I doubt it if people will ever willingly wake up.
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IQ51 still fits, i see...
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There are plenty of morons on both sides of the ticket. Democracy and freedom are not synonymous with each other. 50+1 = mob rule.
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After the election, Nate Silver rated the pollsters by how accurate they'd been. Out of 32 major pollsters, Zogby rated next to last, beating only the Columbus Dispatch.
hahah funny how the "people" that eleceted Obama were uninformed but then to take your information form a site called howobamagotelected.com is use of better judgement.... I'm not calling you out sburns but pointing out the irony of everything, regardless of whether the electorate was informed or not... it's safe to assume that they never are.
People seek out information that is consistent with their beliefs and surround themselves with influences and people that reaffirm these. The only people that are rather good at breaking this mold are those in society known as scientist, but even they may be victim to political stupidity.
A accurate question might be to ask yourself whether the electorate who decided the past 8 years was informed.... or for that matter whether the president of the last 8 years was EVER informed...
John Ziegler doesn't make a secret of his conservative (actually more libertarian) views. He is an interesting guy. He is an avid golfer and tongue-in-cheek believes that Tiger Woods is secretly God.
This doesn't change the results of the poll. Would McCain supporters fare any better? We'll never know, Zogby has already refused to do that one.
The point I think he was trying to make was that the media in general gave a slanted view. Prickly issues with Obama were largely ignored, while anything remotely negative about Palin was reported for days. The survey does seem to support this.
This is why the title of the thread was whether Obama supporters were well-informed as opposed to their intelligence.
It does make it look like we are speeding up to Idiocracy.
That may be the case... The general population is far from informed on most topics.
I disagree with the assertion that Obama was given a free ride in any way by the media. When every person who you've dealt with in the past years is dragged through the mud too...
In the end, I do my best to stay informed on the topics and current events and Obama was my pick. So regardless of any idiots out there who may have assisted in his victory, I got the outcome I wanted
I don't know if anyone watched Palin pardon the turkey yesterday, then give an interview as they are slaughtering turkeys right behind her, it was almost painful to watch. Almost funny in a pathetic sort of way.
If she is the future of the Republican party, the media won't have to help Obama in 2012.
hahah funny how the "people" that eleceted Obama were uninformed but then to take your information form a site called howobamagotelected.com is use of better judgement.... I'm not calling you out sburns but pointing out the irony of everything, regardless of whether the electorate was informed or not... it's safe to assume that they never are.
People seek out information that is consistent with their beliefs and surround themselves with influences and people that reaffirm these. The only people that are rather good at breaking this mold are those in society known as scientist, but even they may be victim to political stupidity.
A accurate question might be to ask yourself whether the electorate who decided the past 8 years was informed.... or for that matter whether the president of the last 8 years was EVER informed...
The question I raise is whether any electorate should be allowed to control how others choose to live their lives.
The question I raise is whether any electorate should be allowed to control how others choose to live their lives.
No. hahah govt is in position to make laws to allow us to live our lives ....but lately it seems that there is a movement to control lives instead of providing a minimal frame work within which we are able to do what we wish.
Like this morning... I was stopped by port authority police to have my bagges searched on my way to school cause I fit the description of a terrorist to a T
The Federal governments job is to protect us from foreign aggressors, and LEAVE US THE F*#K ALONE! We have become a friggin' nanny state where speach, actions, EVERYTHING is regulated so as not to be remotely offensive or controversial to ANYONE. A major bank in the UK just lost a lawsuit for offering "piggy banks" to new customers as a sales promotion, however apparently some muslim clients were offended by the sight of such an "impure" icon, and sued and WON!
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The Federal governments job is to protect us from foreign aggressors, and LEAVE US THE F*#K ALONE! We have become a friggin' nanny state where speach, actions, EVERYTHING is regulated so as not to be remotely offensive or controversial to ANYONE. A major bank in the UK just lost a lawsuit for offering "piggy banks" to new customers as a sales promotion, however apparently some muslim clients were offended by the sight of such an "impure" icon, and sued and WON!
-Rocky-
sheesh.... people always getting offended.... drives me crazy. Sure, if someone is blatently out to offend another then that is wrong, but being too sensitive in what should be a secular and free nation is BS. If you hold that strongly to your beliefs then go practice them elsewhere....
Oh geezus! That poor woman! Can you believe she would even do that interview? Did you see the turkeys struggling in the background? And again with that voice - screetch, screetch, screetch, golly shucks. What a caracature. That solidifies my belief that John McCain has no business picking a VP, a cabinet, even a dog. Sarah, please do us all a favor and go into hiding.
And then there is the turkey loser. I mean, I eat turkey okay but to run a business where you feed them and care for them, then you kill them in some kind of funnel while they struggle for survival? You've got to be a real piece of work to live like that.
Still can't believe she did that interview. The Dems. will have that one lined up for 2012 if needed.
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Fact is only 13% of the American population know who Nancy Pelosi is. The media has done everyone in this country a disservice. If only 13% know who Nancy Pelosi is , how many do you think could possibly know what really led to the economic meltdown we are currently in and what politicians are behind it?? Your moronic comment about the president is also evidence of the same media. BTW, where are you from??
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hahah funny how the "people" that eleceted Obama were uninformed but then to take your information form a site called howobamagotelected.com is use of better judgement.... I'm not calling you out sburns but pointing out the irony of everything, regardless of whether the electorate was informed or not... it's safe to assume that they never are.
People seek out information that is consistent with their beliefs and surround themselves with influences and people that reaffirm these. The only people that are rather good at breaking this mold are those in society known as scientist, but even they may be victim to political stupidity.
A accurate question might be to ask yourself whether the electorate who decided the past 8 years was informed.... or for that matter whether the president of the last 8 years was EVER informed...
If only 13% know who Nancy Pelosi is , how many do you think could possibly know what really led to the economic meltdown we are currently in and what politicians are behind it??
The deregulation of the lending and securities markets coupled with greed and poor business models?
Were Obama voters well-informed?
I'm not calling you out sburns but pointing out the irony of everything, regardless of whether the electorate was informed or not... it's safe to assume that they never are. 
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