why couldnt he gave more speeches like that? I think the out come would be different if he had
I now agree with those who theorized that McCain never wanted to be President. After what happened in 2000, perhaps he just wanted to prove that he could win the Republican nomination. Since then his whole campaign was a big F.U. to the Republican Party.
He's now free to enjoy the rest of his life... and I'm sure his home in Arizona is a better place to spend time than the Oval Office!
we know have a democratic President, Senate, and House... not to mention gubernatorial majority... Looking forward to some actual work getting done instead of a continuation of the filibuster/veto fest.
Many have been very vocal about criticizing the Bush administration.
Obama will inherit several challenging situations. You could probably say that about any President Elect, but it certainly applies in this case.
The question I pose to all of the Bush-haters is this: if Obama makes mistakes, breaks promises, or does things that are Bush-like...will you be man (or woman) enough to also criticize him?
The Democrats control everything, so any success or failure rests squarely on their shoulders.
why couldnt he gave more speeches like that? I think the out come would be different if he had
Not at 72 with Palin in the wings. McCain's time was 2000. Bush, Cheney and Rove ruined everything.
I wasn't aware that the Dems controlled everything. Did they get the 60 seats? I haven't been paying attention to that yet. Didn't even watch the drama last night (but saw Obama's speech) - I was watching my new UB40 and Joe Satriani DVDs .
__________________ "...let us not ignore the truth among ourselves, that we are the aggressors and they defend themselves. The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down."
David Ben-Gurion (the father of Israel) "When fascism comes to America it will be draped in a flag and holding a cross." Sinclair Lewis I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands. One nation, indivisible, with liberty, and justice for all.
The Senate is currently 56/40 with 4 seats still not decided, although Republicans lead in those races by very slim margins. Minnesota is only a few hundred votes, for example.
So the Democrats will control both Houses and every committee within. They will control the White House as well. The only "power" the Republicans will have is the filibuster in the Senate, and even that is just a temporary measure to test the resolve of the majority.
In a year or two, if things go downhill, I certainly hope that the Democrats try to blame this minority of Republicans for the problems of the country. It will make them look incredibly stupid. They have had an easy scapegoat in Bush for the last two years. He is not innocent of course, but to say that everything falls on his shoulders is also incorrect.
Obama will find out soon enough that it isn't so easy being at the top.
With that said, I sincerely hopes that the country rebounds under his administration. I know there will be things that I oppose. But unlike many, I am also rational enough to realize if the good outweighs the bad.
Gee, I guess this means the rest of us can sit on the sidelines and scream "he's not MY president" and blame EVERYTHING that happens (earthquakes, floods, etc.) on him for the next 4 years......(IF he lasts that long!). Maybe this is what America needs, for some of his socialist ideas to get tried and go down in flames...........we'll see............I truly hope for my country I'm wrong.
-Rocky-
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Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, because they live in the gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat."
Bush is innocent...lol. What a joke. He's guilty, he should be in prison along with his degenerate group of failure, liars, cowards and cheaters and taitors... and, he's moron. Palin's Down Syndrome child could have done better than Bush. Ah but of course he's innocent in your eyes. You see blacks and libs and think... NO matter how badly Bush has done, he's white and republican so, he's good... wrong. That time is over!!!! Thank God almighty, you're free at last.
Bush may be the last white ass you see in your "White" house for quite some time.
I had predicted earlier that it wouldn't take but a day for Bushies to blame Bush's disasters on others... I was right. Now we see the expected distortions, denials and fabrications. Anything but the truth. You failed in politic, philosophy and pragmatism.
You voted for the worst President in US history, that should be enough to curtail your adulation but, sadly, it doesn't. That is why you voted Palin, because you think they're doing a hec of a job...LOL!
Run your economy like your politic, see what you get.
Run your party like your mouths... see what you get.
Run your campaign like Palin/Rove wanted... see what you get.
Run your industries like Bushie & scientists want.. see what you get.
See? My bad, you guys cant see with you eyes gouged out.
Bush is innocent...lol. What a joke. He's guilty, he should be in prison along with his degenerate group of failure, liars, cowards and cheaters and taitors... and, he's moron. Palin's Down Syndrome child could have done better than Bush. Ah but of course he's innocent in your eyes. You see blacks and libs and think... NO matter how badly Bush has done, he's white and republican so, he's good... wrong. That time is over!!!! Thank God almighty, you're free at last.
Bush may be the last white ass you see in your "White" house for quite some time.
I had predicted earlier that it wouldn't take but a day for Bushies to blame Bush's disasters on others... I was right. Now we see the expected distortions, denials and fabrications. Anything but the truth. You failed in politic, philosophy and pragmatism.
You voted for the worst President in US history, that should be enough to curtail your adulation but, sadly, it doesn't. That is why you voted Palin, because you think they're doing a hec of a job...LOL!
Run your economy like your politic, see what you get.
Run your party like your mouths... see what you get.
Run your campaign like Palin/Rove wanted... see what you get.
Run your industries like Bushie & scientists want.. see what you get.
See? My bad, you guys cant see with you eyes gouged out.
My post clearly stated that Bush was NOT innocent, you moron.
I feel sory for you really, come January who are you going to focus all that hate toward?
America spoke loudly and said now more fascist fundamentalist fear mongers need apply.
I was glad to see McCain toss this election, I guess he knew what we all know...
Time for change is critical and his administration is stuck with 1950's values and so called morals that only create friction for progress and hinders the evolution of our society.
The GOP snuck in a secong term in 2004, I hope they had fun because I doubt they will be in office for a very long time, but it will be fun to watch them in the sidelines blaming Obama for all the problems he inherited from the Bush admin.
Hopefully the new start will silence the petty attacks, and the change will silence the blinding hate that still lives in the hearts and minds of the dwindling few Americans who never met or befreinded a black person.
Hopefully that ignorance they set their platform for hate on disapears once they relize that the worse of the black community they see is only what they wanted to see, and not what is reality.
America spoke loudly and said now more fascist fundamentalist fear mongers need apply.
I was glad to see McCain toss this election, I guess he knew what we all know...
Time for change is critical and his administration is stuck with 1950's values and so called morals that only create friction for progress and hinders the evolution of our society.
The GOP snuck in a secong term in 2004, I hope they had fun because I doubt they will be in office for a very long time, but it will be fun to watch them in the sidelines blaming Obama for all the problems he inherited from the Bush admin.
Hopefully the new start will silence the petty attacks, and the change will silence the blinding hate that still lives in the hearts and minds of the dwindling few Americans who never met or befreinded a black person.
Hopefully that ignorance they set their platform for hate on disapears once they relize that the worse of the black community they see is only what they wanted to see, and not what is reality.
Serious question. When does the impact of Bush's administration end and Obama's own mistakes begin?
I agree that Obama will have to deal with issues that were not his responsibility, namely Iraq and the credit crisis and recession. However, he pledged to get us out of Iraq, so we will see in 18 months or so if that does happen and how.
The recession will right itself soon enough. I am predicting right now that by Febuary you will see positive reports about the economy, and the press will convince us we are going to be OK, just as they convinced us that soup lines were imminent a few weeks ago.
So after the recession, then it will be Obama's economy, and he can choose to either let it flourish or drag it down.
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Anyway, given the choices, my state did well today. Too bad we don't live in the United States of Kentucky. I blame y'all for the mess that's coming. And in fact, the Obama folks got started early in my neighborhood on the redistribution thing. All three vehicles at my house were broken into last night, and Sirius radios were redistributed to those who didn't feel like buying them. These guys could have at least waited for Obama to win! I was caught off guard thinking I had one last night of sound sleep, so the damn German Shepard woke everyone in the neighborhood except me. But things are gonna change around here. No more chain. More ammo.
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My post clearly stated that Bush was NOT innocent, you moron.
I feel sory for you really, come January who are you going to focus all that hate toward?
Sorry, that was the post I meant to reply to. Baasinator's obvious, pathetic, hillbilly, childish racism. I understand my disgust and hatred of GWB&Co. I know why I feel this way. I see/read the racists beotches and I just see red.(pardon the expression)
Anyho, this election should pretty well make pinkos of the reds.
gag, if I were you, (God forbid!) I'd be hoping things go smoothly, because as you know (but refuse to believe) Americas the dog wagging Canada (the "tail") Our "ups" and "downs" are yours. At least we get to choose our poison.
-Rocky-
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Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, because they live in the gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat."
Serious question. When does the impact of Bush's administration end and Obama's own mistakes begin? When he can't find his own ass when a Hurricane hits and he does nothing for a few days!!! I mean it is different if a Tornado hits but we know about hurricanes for days, even weeks in advance!
I agree that Obama will have to deal with issues that were not his responsibility, namely Iraq and the credit crisis and recession. However, he pledged to get us out of Iraq, so we will see in 18 months or so if that does happen and how. Tell them to stand up and fight for their own land, or just give to us and we can build a middle east Las vegas!
The recession will right itself soon enough. I am predicting right now that by Febuary you will see positive reports about the economy, and the press will convince us we are going to be OK, just as they convinced us that soup lines were imminent a few weeks ago. I just heard that the housing numbers in my area have started to possibly turn around but the prices have dropped to 2003 prices!
So after the recession, then it will be Obama's economy, and he can choose to either let it flourish or drag it down.
Hopefully we can get past petty bullcrap and work as a nation and let the government worry about big issues and not religous or moral issues!
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America spoke loudly and said now more fascist fundamentalist fear mongers need apply.
Already they're talking Palin in 2012. If America spoke, the base is not listening. Sarah, get out and see what the world is like before you try to run it. There's a whole lot more out there than new gymnasiums and people who look like you. Please try to de-shrill your voice a little too, pretty please.
Gog, you need to learn how to be a gracious winner. By now, even the base knows Bush has his thumb up his ass, even if they won't admit it.
__________________ "...let us not ignore the truth among ourselves, that we are the aggressors and they defend themselves. The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down."
David Ben-Gurion (the father of Israel) "When fascism comes to America it will be draped in a flag and holding a cross." Sinclair Lewis I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands. One nation, indivisible, with liberty, and justice for all.
Serious question. When does the impact of Bush's administration end and Obama's own mistakes begin?
I agree that Obama will have to deal with issues that were not his responsibility, namely Iraq and the credit crisis and recession. However, he pledged to get us out of Iraq, so we will see in 18 months or so if that does happen and how.
The recession will right itself soon enough. I am predicting right now that by Febuary you will see positive reports about the economy, and the press will convince us we are going to be OK, just as they convinced us that soup lines were imminent a few weeks ago.
So after the recession, then it will be Obama's economy, and he can choose to either let it flourish or drag it down.
That's the beauty of it all, it's a clear finger to wave after Bush's mess is cleaned up (it's quite a mess) and we will see what happens, but I feel confident that special interests, greed, cowboy politics, and disassociation with the nation isn't going to be our problem anymore.
I'm very eager to see how the rest of the world responds to him as well, I can't see anything wrong with the direction we are going, and the only complaints I seem to hear is ignorant, racist and or jumping the gun remarks, apparently not even the right side can come up with anything substantial, and to be honest it's not really fair to judge before he is even in office.
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