Good for politics or bad??

[dabyabby]

What do you guys think, will it be good for politics for one party to have all of the control or not??? Let er RIP!!!!

I think if the party in control screws up it will set them back for quite sometime in the eyes of the public!

[sburns2421]

History has shown that when either party controls all three it is not very effective. If the super-majority happens as is forcasted, the Democrats will have no one but themselves to blame in four or eight years. Savvy Republican politicians will have to ride the fine line of sitting back and watching them implode (thus not putting a target on their backs in the meantime), and picking and choosing a few fights to have along the way (having the appearance that they tried to stop the implosion).

So to answer your question, no I don't think it will be a good thing.

Guys like Limbaugh or Hannity privately must be loving this. They are assured of plenty of material and a pissed-off listenership for the next four years, at least.

[Gog]

Originally Posted by sburns2421

If the super-majority happens as is forcasted, the Democrats will have no one but themselves to blame in four or eight years.
Sounds like you think Republicans now have the right to trash "the other side". I'll bet they can end up costing America more than they did creating the financial crisis and holding up the bail out combined.

Savvy Republican politicians will have to ride the fine line of sitting back and watching them implode (thus not putting a target on their backs in the meantime), and picking and choosing a few fights to have along the way (having the appearance that they tried to stop the implosion).
I'll bet that "smart" republicans will work tirelessly to see that these dreams of failure come to fruition
We define "savvy" differently.

Can you imagine voting for a captain of a soccer team and having the half that lost their choice work against the other? That makes the team a loser before the game starts.
Despite the right wing hypo-hypocritical yankoffs who publicly smeared Clinton for dabbling in what every healthy, real man dreams of, Clinton did a fantastic job as president. Despite the lies, hatred, ignorance, smears and envy. He left it in better shape than he found it.
When the neocon god arrived he proceeded to fark everything up royally and what did you guys do? Elected him again...
How can 50% of people still support Ted Stevens?
Mind boggling... hard to comprehend.
Oh the days when conservatives were on the ball...

Chris Corrigan » The death of smart conservatism

[Gog]

Originally Posted by dabyabby

What do you guys think, will it be good for politics for one party to have all of the control or not??? Let er RIP!!!!
I think if the party in control screws up it will set them back for quite sometime in the eyes of the public!

I think that unity, sustainability, accountability, cooperation, education and science are a low priority to Republicans so I hope that Dems get enough numbers to prevent Filibusters. Oh the boat anchors in politics.

Could leave a big, cozy spot for independents in the future...

[sburns2421]

Originally Posted by Gog

...who publicly smeared Clinton for dabbling in what every healthy, real man dreams of...

Sorry, no Monica fantasies for me. if you were in the ol' six-nine with her you wouldn't even be able to hear the TV!

[nero]

Originally Posted by Gog

...Despite the right wing hypo-hypocritical yankoffs who publicly smeared Clinton for dabbling in what every healthy, real man dreams of, Clinton did a fantastic job as president....

Whew, that's rich. Every healthy man dreams of adultery, sodomy and cigar abuse, huh ? I guess I'm not a "real man", whatever that is.
When these lefties take over and "spread the wealth" they're going to make such a mess of this economy that what you got now will only be remembered fondly.
There'll be no one else to blame. "Jimmy Carter redux". Just hope I survive the next 4. That's all they'll get.

[Gog]

Originally Posted by nero

Whew, that's rich. Every healthy man dreams of adultery, sodomy and cigar abuse, huh ? I guess I'm not a "real man", whatever that is.
When these lefties take over and "spread the wealth" they're going to make such a mess of this economy that what you got now will only be remembered fondly.
There'll be no one else to blame. "Jimmy Carter redux". Just hope I survive the next 4. That's all they'll get.

Haha... What's rich is saying Dems will make a mess of it.... hello? If they dont, like Clinton, make a mess of the mess you will be finding other shit to whine about. In a few, short months it will be all their fault anyway...

Amazing how eight years of comprehensive, complete failure leaves you guys aching for more! WOW!

As for oral sex, taboo sex and forbidden sex... yip every man's dream(nightmare). Monica was Bill's choice. Just because she's a douche to me and you, doesnt mean REAL, married, single, young, old, black, white, fat, and skinny men dont think of young women and hide the salami.

Whats weak is the long list of sad ass, Republican, right wing accusers who fell, one by six after another, after pointing fingers and promising family values. Now thats all shit and you know it.

Reaganomics is a failure... F A I L U R E !

[Area 51]

I've always thought it was a terrible idea to have one party control everything - still do. But after electing, then re-electing Bush and the gang of thieves, and all the other congressional BS, and the constant use of social warfare, and Christians trying to take over our government...well, I think the Dems deserve it all and I'm now 100% on their side. Four years, or even two, from now and I'm sure that'll change, that's just the way politics works.

[RockyMt]

gag, I wouldn't do whoremonica with YOUR dick (not that she'd feel it anyway....) Your soccer team analogy was priceless, like that isn't what the dems have been doing for eight years?!?! (remember harry (gag, puke!) reed saying "we lost the war"?!?!) No I didn't think so.......I can't wait to hear the screaming that the "fix" was in when they lose next tuesday.....

-Rocky-

[Gog]

None of us like Monica...lol.

So tell me, Is there such a thing as winning the Iraq war?
What do you have do, change the definition of winning?
Is deregulation to blame for the financial collapse?
Somehow, the Clinton years are defamed by you guys, history is changed and blame is reassigned. Dont you now wish that Bush was 1/2 as good as Clinton?

Fact: Clinton did a great job as Pres.
Fact: Bush did the worst job, as president, in the history of America.
Fact: You guys are now lying about both.
Fact: Sarah Palin is an embarrassment to America.
Fact: Killers are not Christians. If people call for death, they dont know the word of Jesus, God or spirituality.
Fact: The Republican Party is bankrupt.. socially, intellectually, morally and financially.
Fact: Rush Limbaugh is a big, fat idiot.
Fact: It is time for a change and Obama is going to bring it despite hillbilly protests, lies, exaggerations, misdirection from the far wrong..err.. right.

You guys need to learn to get more from your leaders(assuming you vote the right ones in to start). Why do you answer a criticism/question with a fact check of the other party? Does comparing yourself to wrong liberals make you right? Do you think a matter is settled if you can find another guilty party to justify your own actions?

[sburns2421]

Gog,
You need to learn the difference between facts and opinions. All but one of your "facts" are really opinions or conclusions you have formed based on your experiences.

All except the Christian one (which also applies to Jews). Thou shall not murder versus thou shall not kill are two totally different things. Research the correct translation and get back to us...

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but not their own facts.

[Area 51]

Originally Posted by RockyMt

...(remember harry (gag, puke!) reed saying "we lost the war"?!?!) No I didn't think so.......I can't wait to hear the screaming that the "fix" was in when they lose next tuesday.....

-Rocky-

1. We won the war by defeating the standing Iraqi military, and when we captured Saddam and shot holes in his sons. We lost the peace through piss poor planning and misunderstanding of what we were in for. Let's all admit it, the military did their job but once again the civilians let us down, way, way down.

2. Polls are very accurate. If Obama looses then electronic voting machines made by a Republican company will be the first thing to look to. Second will be voter suppression in close states like Ohio. With all that we've seen in the last two elections it doesn't take a genius to figure out that Republicans give lip service to democracy.

[RockyMt]

Originally Posted by Area 51

1. We won the war by defeating the standing Iraqi military, and when we captured Saddam and shot holes in his sons. We lost the peace through piss poor planning and misunderstanding of what we were in for. Let's all admit it, the military did their job but once again the civilians let us down, way, way down.

2. Polls are very accurate. If Obama looses then electronic voting machines made by a Republican company will be the first thing to look to. Second will be voter suppression in close states like Ohio. With all that we've seen in the last two elections it doesn't take a genius to figure out that Republicans give lip service to democracy.

Or how 'bout asking "did you vote last election?" as opposed to "who will you vote for?" (a HUGE percentage of "voters" will sit at home with their bong watching Springer rather than voting.......GOOD for the rest of us...)

-Rocky-

[Area 51]

Originally Posted by RockyMt

(a HUGE percentage of "voters" will sit at home with their bong watching Springer rather than voting.......GOOD for the rest of us...)

-Rocky-

Frankly, I seriously doubt that many, if not most, of the actual voters know the facts. Some of them even think Obama can't get a security clearance, or that he can't be President because he was not born in the U.S. (he was actually born in Hawaii). They even think he attended a madrassa or that he's a muslim, or that he "palls around with terrorists". Coincidentally, most of those people voted for Bush.

[Gog]

Originally Posted by sburns2421

Gog,
You need to learn the difference between facts and opinions. All but one of your "facts" are really opinions or conclusions you have formed based on your experiences.

All except the Christian one (which also applies to Jews). Thou shall not murder versus thou shall not kill are two totally different things. Research the correct translation and get back to us...

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but not their own facts.

One question.. is Jesus love?

[sburns2421]

Originally Posted by Gog

One question.. is Jesus love?

I'm not qualified to answer that question. My answer would be...sometimes.

It depends on which Jesus you speak of: the loving Jesus who was inclusive of all people, or the crazy pissed-off Jesus who threw the merchants out of the Temple.

[Gog]

The truth shall set you free...

Tell me, Clinton didnt do a great Job as pres? Thats not a fact? It isnt the truth? Really.. tell us why two terms and a 65% approval doesnt qualify it in numbers. Unless figures can lie..what you figure?

[sburns2421]

Originally Posted by Gog

The truth shall set you free...

Tell me, Clinton didnt do a great Job as pres? Thats not a fact? It isnt the truth? Really.. tell us why two terms and a 65% approval doesnt qualify it in numbers. Unless figures can lie..what you figure?

Again, define "great". Approval ratings really mean nothing, some great Presidents on both sides have had low numbers.

Was it great to raise taxes just a few months after taking office when he promised not to do so?

Was it great to disrepsect the office by getting a hummer while on the phone with Arafat?

Was it great to only half-ass do nothing and let millions die in Bosnia and Rwanda?

Was it great to introduce NAFTA which has pulled jobs from the US and sent them north and south of the border?

Was it great to have Bin Laden literally in the sights of the drone, and not have the balls to pull the trigger?

Was it great to launch missles and kill innocent people the day his impeachment trial started?

BTW, Clinton claimed to be a Baptist Christian. I remember the photo-ops when he would leave the church Sunday morning with his black Bible with giant oversized gold leaf HOLY BIBLE written tucked in his arm, positioned just so that his hand left all the letters visible.

So you should hate him, no?

[Gog]

Originally Posted by sburns2421

Again, define "great". Approval ratings really mean nothing, some great Presidents on both sides have had low numbers.
Oh...duh.

Was it great to raise taxes just a few months after taking office when he promised not to do so?
When you leave a surplus..YES!

Was it great to disrepsect the office by getting a hummer while on the phone with Arafat?
Man you are really gone. Have you noticed what kind of fruit is borne through threats, lies and intimidation?... SFA!

Was it great to only half-ass do nothing and let millions die in Bosnia and Rwanda?
lol! Damned if he did, damned if he didn't.

Was it great to introduce NAFTA which has pulled jobs from the US and sent them north and south of the border?

You tell us!

Was it great to have Bin Laden literally in the sights of the drone, and not have the balls to pull the trigger?
Yet another excuse to cover Bush's mind boggling failures.

Was it great to launch missles and kill innocent people the day his impeachment trial started?
The comparison of Clinton's impeachment to Bush, subversion. You are totally forgiving of real criminals and completely ignorant of you own constitution.

BTW, Clinton claimed to be a Baptist Christian. I remember the photo-ops when he would leave the church Sunday morning with his black Bible with giant oversized gold leaf HOLY BIBLE written tucked in his arm, positioned just so that his hand left all the letters visible.
Oh, that religious bullshit. Lemme guess, he doesnt have a star on his belly.

So you should hate him, no?

Love hate, whatever. He is regarded as a fine president who left things better than he found them. Now Bush, your hero, he's a complete moron and a criminal. Thats a fact.

[Area 51]

Originally Posted by sburns2421

Was it great to have Bin Laden literally in the sights of the drone, and not have the balls to pull the trigger?

That is complete BS. So is the story about Somalia handing BL to us on a silver platter.

Since you don't know much I assume you also don't know how many cruise missiles Clinton launched into the Afghan training camp when BL was reported to be there.