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Old 11-02-2008, 02:17 PM
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CNN.com - Drone may have spotted*bin Laden in 2000 - Mar 17, 2004
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Old 11-02-2008, 02:36 PM
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Oh man. hopeless. Try some reality.
Drone may have spotted bin Laden in 2000...
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Old 11-02-2008, 03:09 PM
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I'm sure the camps were just full of bosses in his trademark flowing white robes that stand a foot taller than everyone else.

Meanwhile, you idiots believe every conspiracy theory about Bush proposed.
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I'm sure the camps were just full of bosses in his trademark flowing white robes that stand a foot taller than everyone else.

Meanwhile, you idiots believe every conspiracy theory about Bush proposed.
So what is the reality? Bush went after Bin Laden and succeeded? Bush gave a shit? Bush understood? Bush cared? WTF man, what do you need? I think if Bush himself were to tell you he's a buffoon, you'd argue with him.
Get this... There is no conspiracy!!!! I gave you bush in his own words.. the record is crystal clear. You are refuted and yet you deny. That is why your science, politic and philosophy are skewered into a pigeon hole that only a bird brain would understand.
Your revisionist, non factual bias is preventing you from a massive, overdue reevaluation of your situation. Blaming Clinton for not capturing Bin Laden..heheh not much room to work with you on this one.
Your fuzzy logic reminds me of BigFoot or the Abominable Snowman.

Take some responsibility!!!! When you fail, please remember to be humble and thoughtful about how and why you failed..lest you fail again. You wouldn't want to checker you politics with failure would you?

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Old 11-02-2008, 07:36 PM
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I thought we were talking about how great CLINTON was a President, not Bush?
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Old 11-02-2008, 09:41 PM
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I thought we were talking about how great CLINTON was a President, not Bush?
I dont understand what 'Rosetta Stone' you are using to gauge your esteem of people. Methinks its cartoonish and juvenile because the subtle or blatant facts just seem to not factor into your esteem quotients.

What more do people have to do? Observing right wing republicans distort reality is like watching criminals make up stories to explain DNA evidence against them! Really, it's that glaring.
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Old 11-03-2008, 04:39 PM
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gag, "fuzzy logic?" THATS CLASSIC, this coming from "Mr. Global Warming".........

Better check that granola didn't come from China, madness is an early sign of mercury poisoning......

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Old 11-03-2008, 06:44 PM
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So? It MAY have been bin Laden and the drone WAS unarmed:

"The possibility that the figure in the tape might have been bin Laden helped speed the decision to arm the Predator drone aircraft with "Hellfire" missiles, which can be fired by remote control, officials said."

1. This was pre-9/11 so no one would have fired any missiles even if they were available, including Bush (who ignored bin Laden all the way up to 9/11).
2. Have we lowered ourselves to firing on tall people in white robes? Besides, every picture that I've seen of OBL he has been in earth-toned rags just like his soldiers - aren't you paying attention. I hope our allies don't read your ranting suggestions. That kind of attitude takes the wind out of our sails when we try to deflect all the other questionable things we've done fighting these wars...like shooting old men and then placing bomb-making materials on them to make it look like a justified murder.
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I think if the party in control screws up it will set them back for quite sometime in the eyes of the public!

I am waiting to see what the Democrats will do with this new power. I've seen what the Republicans did and it was highly partisan, greedy, and generally bad for the country. For this they have been justly removed from power. If the Democrats act similarly they, too, should be removed.
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I am waiting to see what the Democrats will do with this new power. I've seen what the Republicans did and it was highly partisan, greedy, and generally bad for the country. For this they have been justly removed from power. If the Democrats act similarly they, too, should be removed.
And replaced with whom? This is the genius of the two party system we have. They offer only two very similar choices, really talk up their minor differences and laugh all the way to the bank after the election. It let's the people feel like they've "thrown the bastards out" when, in reality, they've just rotated people in the same tyranny.
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Amazing how the two side are so similar now. Practically/virtually indistinguishable! Does that mean we lift up your failures or lower our winners?
Staggering to see the "shift" of claims arriving like the Titanic in New York harbor.
It never happened, the iceberg, the sinking, the loss...never happened. I didnt do it, Dont look at me, It's his fault.

Cling to your sophomoric wrestler's statement. It is such a banal, incoherent analogy that I think I need electric shock just to understand your flushing pride of it.
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The irony is that if the Titanic had hit the iceberg head-on it probably would have survived, attempting to turn made it a glancing blow which ripped a large hole in the side and flooded too many chambers. Sort of like just gritting your teeth and taking the hit, rather than attempting to avoid the inevitable and having the end result being much worse.
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Amazing how the two side are so similar now. Practically/virtually indistinguishable! Does that mean we lift up your failures or lower our winners?
Staggering to see the "shift" of claims arriving like the Titanic in New York harbor.
It never happened, the iceberg, the sinking, the loss...never happened. I didnt do it, Dont look at me, It's his fault.

Cling to your sophomoric wrestler's statement. It is such a banal, incoherent analogy that I think I need electric shock just to understand your flushing pride of it.
Ok, are you schitzo? In the other thread you agreed the left's socialist agenda is a threat (as you should) along with the right's nation-building bent. Which is it? Are the Dem's the "lesser of two evils" to you or are they the saviors of the USA?
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Old 11-06-2008, 08:31 PM
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Ok, are you schitzo? In the other thread you agreed the left's socialist agenda is a threat (as you should) along with the right's nation-building bent. Which is it? Are the Dem's the "lesser of two evils" to you or are they the saviors of the USA?
Isn't it obvious that without an exhaust stroke the engine will blow? Please word your response carefully because we dont want the crazy V4 crowd taking over the war room.
I have stated that either side left unattended, unopposed will destroy the machine. Thats just common sense. I assume you are a libertarian or independent? Then you should know, more than the others, how important it is NOT to let things go too far one way. Somewhere in between dictatorship and communism is where we have to ply our politics. I want neither dictatorship or communism but I see stupid people offering both.

Those who would eliminate liberalism are dangerous indeed and the same for conservatism. I think the democratic party is more in line with my thinking but that may be because of the religious, fuktards that have been running the American conservative machine. BTW running it into the ground.

Now, as far as the environment... I have not met many "true" conservatives who would knowingly destroy their homes to make money. Burn their living room for heat, eat their offspring or sell their future but, thats another thread.
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The irony is that if the Titanic had hit the iceberg head-on it probably would have survived, attempting to turn made it a glancing blow which ripped a large hole in the side and flooded too many chambers. Sort of like just gritting your teeth and taking the hit, rather than attempting to avoid the inevitable and having the end result being much worse.
The point is that they never should have hit it in the first place. Even if we study what happened after the collision.. total incompetence.
Withing this event lies illumination on the problems with ego and the erroneous beliefs in unsinkable ships, countries or political parties. The leaders become drunk on pride and arrogance, exactly like the Bushies and Co. One iceberg warning after another and still, full steam ahead into the dark.
The Titanic story contains so many life lessons. When I see some dick flouting America's might I think of the dumb asses who sank that ship. Couldn't even mitigate their disaster with post crash professionalism.

We are lunging full steam ahead with planet earth at the moment. Have you read the latest ice warnings?
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Isn't it obvious that without an exhaust stroke the engine will blow? Please word your response carefully because we dont want the crazy V4 crowd taking over the war room.
Keep Larry out of this thread!

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I have stated that either side left unattended, unopposed will destroy the machine. That's just common sense. I assume you are a libertarian or independent? Then you should know, more than the others, how important it is NOT to let things go too far one way. Somewhere in between dictatorship and communism is where we have to ply our politics. I want neither dictatorship or communism but I see stupid people offering both.
What's sad is that the two parties have led people to believe that there actually is a difference between communism and a dictatorship. The truth is they are both the same: a totalitarian state with coercive control over its citizens. Communism or a dictatorship? A move toward either one is a move closer to both. FYI, count me as a minarchist Libertarian.

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Those who would eliminate liberalism are dangerous indeed and the same for conservatism. I think the democratic party is more in line with my thinking but that may be because of the religious, fuktards that have been running the American conservative machine. BTW running it into the ground.
the Democratic party has bastardized liberalism as much as the Republican party has distorted conservatism. Both favor increasing government at the expense of personal freedom.

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Now, as far as the environment... I have not met many "true" conservatives who would knowingly destroy their homes to make money. Burn their living room for heat, eat their offspring or sell their future but, thats another thread.
Another thread indeed.
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Old 11-07-2008, 02:25 PM
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The biggest difference I see is between the trickle downers and the socialists. One group believes that the uber wealthy should run the economy and their choices, profits and crumbs can be shared amonsgt the leftoverss. The other believes in spreading the wealth. Anyone who searches through history will tell you where each will likely beach themselves in the oceans of time.

I was affected deeply by reading Charles Dickens. I dont believe in robber barons or blue bloods. As a matter of fact, I hate them, except their gorgeous, rich, rebellious daughters.
I loathe and detest communism too. The horrid, bi-polar opposite of trickle down. I have been deeply affected by the misdeeds of the Soviet Union and its human tragedies. Big brother can take a flying fuk at a rolling donut.

The middle is looking good but the left and right 'fringies' are crowding us out. I say again, not caring for either left or right elements of the democracy will assure a failure or a meltdown or, at least, a sub par standard of life and legacy.

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By definition, people who talk about "trickle down" economics do not know what they are talking about. There is no trickle down theory in economics, and there is no economist who supports said non-existent theory. It's simply a derogatory buzz word used by those who don't understand supply-side economic theory, but they know it's something bad because somebody told them so.
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By definition, people who talk about "trickle down" economics do not know what they are talking about. There is no trickle down theory in economics, and there is no economist who supports said non-existent theory. It's simply a derogatory buzz word used by those who don't understand supply-side economic theory, but they know it's something bad because somebody told them so.
LOL
I was so distracted dummying down my concepts and language to you that I was late to realize you were condescending to me...haha.

When you tune into Rush and spew his crap afterward, you make him wealthy. Then he pisses all over what you claim to hold dear and defend. It trickles down to you... making you a peon. The hiddens files in all this? The corruption trickles down a tad bit slower than the money. As if you dont know this.

If I show you a hundred of your political leaders referring to "trickle down", it would still be "non existent' in your little mind. Go check, half your political icons are touting it as hail Reaganomics, which failed and soon, I expect, you'll disassociate yourself with that and blame it on lefties... Bet you'll get your wordage from O'Limbaugh too.
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The biggest difference I see is between the trickle downers and the socialists. One group believes that the uber wealthy should run the economy and their choices, profits and crumbs can be shared amonsgt the leftoverss. The other believes in spreading the wealth. Anyone who searches through history will tell you where each will likely beach themselves in the oceans of time.
Both those groups you mention have been expanding government. That's the real root of our problems. Government produces nothing, distorts markets and just plain gets in the way of our economy.
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