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[Gog]

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Ok Rocky, the fog has lifted! F5(McCain is so old, they lost him for a while during a walk in the petrified forest).... damage report Captain!

[sburns2421]

Why should I care what someone who can't even vote for McCain or Obama thinks about the election?

[zen748]

Can you imagine the state of North America if not for the strong leadership and defense of the USA.

[RockyMt]

God forbid, 1/2 would be speaking French (gag!) and the other half Spanish.............(with EVERYONE demanding free health care!)

Rocky-

[Gog]

I just want to blow something up.

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[zen748]

Originally Posted by RockyMt

God forbid, 1/2 would be speaking French (gag!) and the other half Spanish.............

Rocky-

...and Chinese

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[Gog]

If you guys could see something other than black or white... you'd see that it's entirely possible to take care of all your citizens without killing capitalism.

[zen748]

Actually, it is possible in America for (most) our citizens to take care of themselves.

The travesty is that many are raised without this belief and this is in large part because they are raised with the belief that they are entitled for whatever reason.

Handouts only perpetuate this cycle.

Obviously, there are some that truly can not fend for themselves, like the severely mentally or physically disabled, but they are a tiny minority.

[drthompson65]

Danger Will Robbison, DANGER!

[Area 51]

Originally Posted by sburns2421

Why should I care what someone who can't even vote for McCain or Obama thinks about the election?

Because they are the only ones who see things clearly (without partisan foolishness). But an independant voter like me would do too: Obama!

[sburns2421]

So are you voting for Obama or against McCain?

What realistically do you think Obama will do while in office to make the country better?

For the record, I'm not overly thrilled with McCain, but from the choices now (as well as choices in Republican primaries) he is the best we have. I also don't think Obama is a bad guy (and you would have to be retarded to think he is Muslim), just not the guy for the moment.

[Area 51]

Originally Posted by Gog

If you guys could see something other than black or white... you'd see that it's entirely possible to take care of all your citizens without killing capitalism.

But they don't want to take care of anyone. They want one country for themselves and one country for the rest of them. So they can look down and feel big, and have plenty of gardeners and dishwashers. You see, if everyone had a piece of the pie then there would be less for the money hoarders. Conservatism runs on greed. John McCain: 7 houses (or is it eight? Gee, even he doesn't know), a $300,000 dress and jewelery (that looked like puke). I wonder how much taxes they've avoided paying over the years. And how much of that wealth is the result of just knowing the right people - a seperate thing from good, old-fashioned, hard work.

That should give you neo-conjobs something to chew on (besides your cancer-causing cigars).

[Area 51]

Originally Posted by sburns2421

So are you voting for Obama or against McCain?

What realistically do you think Obama will do while in office to make the country better?

For the record, I'm not overly thrilled with McCain, but from the choices now (as well as choices in Republican primaries) he is the best we have. I also don't think Obama is a bad guy (and you would have to be retarded to think he is Muslim), just not the guy for the moment.

Four years ago I would have voted for McCain but now I know too much about him. Abortion, supporting Bush in '04, ties to lobyists (40 in his election committee vs. 20 in Obama's), too much militarism talk, and then the move that busted the bank: Sarah Palin. Her choice proves that he has lost his soul and would do anything to win. He's not the man he used to be and she's not the woman they are attempting to sell.

[sburns2421]

Originally Posted by Area 51

But they don't want to take care of anyone. They want one country for themselves and one country for the rest of them. So they can look down and feel big, and have plenty of gardeners and dishwashers. You see, if everyone had a piece of the pie then there would be less for the money hoarders. Conservatism runs on greed. John McCain: 7 houses (or is it eight? Gee, even he doesn't know), a $300,000 dress and jewelery (that looked like puke). I wonder how much taxes they've avoided paying over the years. And how much of that wealth is the result of just knowing the right people - a seperate thing from good, old-fashioned, hard work.

That should give you neo-conjobs something to chew on (besides your cancer-causing cigars).

Your complete argument regarding greed goes out the window if you voted for Kerry. So did you or not?

[Gog]

Cindy McCain gives me the creeps. Really, she's dead behind the eyes. Sarah makes my gonads retract. She's got every Archie Bunker in America humping her poster. I guess God's soccer mom IS everywhere SHE should be, leaving HER 'chosen' children to foster more choice children,(out of wedlock), while she rids the empire of the corruption she was for but now she's against.

I like John McCain a bit but he's 27 years now, being a professional politician round and about, from the top to the underbelly in Washington, loaded up to his gills with lobbyists, he's filthy, stinking rich, and voted 95% with Bush. If I were hiring(voting), I'd take a pass on the odds that he would do what he said, regarding cleaning up Washington, making anything work, uniting, saving or fixing squat, or that he'd turncoat on his friends and business partners. Do the math.

What I like about Obama is that he acknowledges reality. On the ground, in the water and in the air. He's speaks intelligently because he's extraordinarily intelligent. That is what America needs now, extraordinary intelligence!!!
America doesn't need the old Gaurd greasing their lousy palms again while the world falls into kaos from their rapturists actions.
If you cant see how amazing Obama is, simply for even being in this race, against staggering odds, then I guess you cant see ANY alternatives to eight years of total, miserable failure.

What I'd like to see is the Right Wing ding aling conservative Republican people of America to sign a waiver... If McCain makes is worse, they all pack a big suitcase, with a gagged and drugged Canadian conservative in it, and fly straight to the Mars Hilton.

[zen748]

Originally Posted by Gog

Cindy McCain gives me the creeps. Really, she's dead behind the eyes. What a f*ckin tool, to bash someones wife for standing behind him. Sarah makes my gonads retract. She's got every Archie Bunker in America humping her poster. I guess God's soccer mom IS everywhere SHE should be, leaving HER 'chosen' children to foster more choice children,(out of wedlock), while she rids the empire of the corruption she was for but now she's against

I like John McCain a bit but he's 27 years now, being a professional politician round and about, from the top to the underbelly in Washington, loaded up to his gills with lobbyists, he's filthy, stinking rich, and voted 95% with Bush. He has crafted more reform legislation than Obama has even voted for...or against.
If I were hiring(voting), I'd take a pass on the odds that he would do what he said, regarding cleaning up Washington, making anything work, uniting, saving or fixing squat, or that he'd turncoat on his friends and business partners. Do the math. He's 72 and married to a hot rich babe!! He can't be bought!

What I like about Obama is that he acknowledges reality. You are obviously taking advantage of the lacks pot laws in your country if you really ment the previous statement.
On the ground, in the water and in the air. He's speaks intelligently because he's extraordinarily intelligent. That is what America needs now, extraordinary intelligence!!! I bet you were your professors pet in college. They're profs because making it in real business or the real world is Harder!!
America doesn't need the old Gaurd greasing their lousy palms again while the world falls into kaos from their rapturists actions. McCain has no need to greese his palms!!
If you cant see how amazing Obama is, simply for even being in this race, against staggering odds, then I guess you cant see ANY alternatives to eight years of total, miserable failure. 1. you are an Obama leg humper!! and 2. the last 8 years have not been a miserable failure (I will expand when I have the time).

What I'd like to see is the Right Wing ding aling conservative Republican people of America to sign a waiver... If McCain makes is worse, they all pack a big suitcase, with a gagged and drugged Canadian conservative in it, and fly straight to the Mars Hilton.

I am better off now than I was 8 years ago. That seems to be the mantra of the fagocrats "are you better off than you were 8 years ago", and my answer is yes.

Why?
I started my own business!
I worked my ass off!
I worked hard to be a good Dad!
I worked hard to be a good husband!
The government didn't take too much of my earnings!
I exercised, and took care of my body! (kept health care cost in check)

The only thing I didn't do was save more, and that is my own damn fault, and I take responsibilty for it, and do not expect the government to step in and take care of me because I chose motorcycles and track days instead of savings!!!

Obama is a Prof!

McCain is a bad ass who married smart and loves his country!

You would not be sitting up there spouting your sh*t if it were not for great men like John McCain!!


That said, if your ever down in Texas, I'll treat you to a track day! I love discussing the theater of politics!!





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[Gog]

Originally Posted by zen748

I am better off now than I was 8 years ago. That seems to be the mantra of the fagocrats "are you better off than you were 8 years ago", and my answer is yes.

Why?
I started my own business!
I worked my ass off!
I worked hard to be a good Dad!
I worked hard to be a good husband!
The government didn't take too much of my earnings!
I exercised, and took care of my body! (kept health care cost in check)

You and McCain are delusional. You're better off??? Thats laughable man, so you've found a way to not pay taxes despite Iraq, Fannie may Mac Freddie, collapsing dollar and eroding infrastructure, foreign debt etc. etc.. Congratulations! You're a good poster boy for GWB's policies that work for a few but scratch your country's eyes out!! Maybe thats why you cant open them.

Obama is a Prof!
McCain is a bad ass who married smart and loves his country!
You would not be sitting up there spouting your sh*t if it were not for great men like John McCain!!
Hahahahahahahaaaaaaaa!
That said, if your ever down in Texas, I'll treat you to a track day! I love discussing the theater of politics!!
Ok, loser(slowest) leaves town!

Your idea of keeping healthcare costs low is to exercise? lol.

McCain is uber rich(loses count of his houses). He's stating still that America's economy is strong...duh? Now he is trying to say the the worker is the base of the economy and that the worker is strong... Gee, those union boys and girls sure do flip flop between being a burder to a backbone. Why you wish for second rate leaders I will never understand. The fear of liberals blinds you to the poor choices your party is offering you. McCain = full of shit rich guy.

Listen: While McCain and Cindy have world class medicine and health care for their numerous health issues, others, within miles of their numerous houses, are dying because they cant afford shit, not even a scan to see if the are cancerous like McCain. They should hit the treadmill but maybe they cant even afford a treadmill to cure themselves. It seems that is easily dismissed by you but... it is just plain wrong. The selfish claims of R wingers to tell people to exercise is just too much. Your leader just said yesterday that it was unAmerican to not help our citizens. People in right wing circles want to be the authority over others to decide who is exercising enough to deserve a dole.
It's not unlike the Bush doctrine of Jesus says, thou shalt not kill, every life is sacred, at any stage, we are all God's children, Only God has the authority to kill, God has a plan... in the meantime he became the most executing Governor in Texas history... and vaporized 100,000 Iraqis.. gone without a trace.
Now we hear, how much the right cares for the middle class, all the shallow, selfish promises by a bunch of mama's boys who cant run shit unless it's into the ground.

So, in the Republican America, the sky is blue, everything is better than it was before Bush took over...with a surplus and the house in good order. Bush improved life for you, the party, your ilk but not for the earth, the Republican brand, the United States of America or the average citizen. There was no lie re: war, there is no global warming, Cheney is a good man, all the scandals are acceptable and Palin is going to make a great president.
Mrs. Buffalo Chip and the lying MooseHunter! Too phunny.

Just read a coupla quotes and tell me true(Obama and the left wing, socialistic, liberal communists aside), does nothing concern you about the Son of Cain?

"[Sarah Palin] knows more about energy than probably anyone else in the United States of America. ... And, uh, she also happens to represent, be governor of a state that's right next to Russia." --after being asked about Sarah Palin's foreign policy experience, interview with WCSH-6, Portland, OR, Sept. 12, 2008

haha What a joke They claim Alaska supplies 20% of American power...try3.5%
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"It's easy for me to go to Washington and, frankly, be somewhat divorced from the day-to-day challenges people have." --speaking at the ServiceNation forum in New York, Sept. 11, 2008



"She's a partner and a soul-mate." --on his vice presidential pick, Sarah Palin, whom he had met only once before offering her the job, "FOX News Sunday" interview, Aug. 31, 2008

"In the 21st century nations don't invade other nations." --on Russia's military action against Georgia, Birmingham, Mich., Aug. 13, 2008

"I'm running for president of the United States, because I want to help with family values. And I think that family values are important, when we have two parent -- families that are of parents that are the traditional family." --interview on "This Week," July 27, 2008

"Maybe that's a way of killing them." --responding to a report that $158 million in cigarettes have been shipped to Iran during Bush's presidency despite restrictions on U.S. exports to that country, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, July 8, 2008

Once again the republicans want to lower the bar because they think war is the way to express their manhood. Thinking two steps ahead... not a quality we see from the right wing.

[nero]

Socialism vs. Individual liberty. It's really that simple !

[Gog]

Top Republican says Palin unready


Senator Chuck Hagel could be influential with independent voters

Senior Republican Senator Chuck Hagel has voiced doubts about Sarah Palin's qualifications for the vice-presidency.
John McCain's running mate "doesn't have any foreign policy credentials", Mr Hagel told the Omaha World-Herald.
Mr Hagel was a prominent supporter of Mr McCain during his 2000 bid for the US presidency, but has declined to endorse either candidate this year.
He was opposed to the Iraq War, and recently joined Mr McCain's rival Barack Obama on a Middle East trip.
'Stop the nonsense'
"I think it's a stretch to, in any way, to say that she's got the experience to be president of the United States," Mr Hagel told the Omaha World-Herald newspaper.
And he was dismissive of the fact that Mrs Palin, the governor of Alaska, has made few trips abroad.
"You get a passport for the first time in your life last year? I mean, I don't know what you can say. You can't say anything."

Mr Hagel also criticised the McCain campaign for its suggestion that the proximity of Alaska to Russia gave Mrs Palin foreign policy experience. "I think they ought to be just honest about it and stop the nonsense about, 'I look out my window and I see Russia and so therefore I know something about Russia'," he said.
"That kind of thing is insulting to the American people."
BBC North America editor Justin Webb says Mr Hagel's opinion of Mrs Palin will have an effect on independent voters.
A senior member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Mr Hagel was a close ally of Mr McCain, but the two men parted company over the decision to go to war in Iraq.
Mr Hagel skipped this year's Republican National Convention in favour of a visit to Latin America.
Mr Hagel's decision to accompany Mr Obama this summer on a trip to Iraq and Israel, as part of a US Congressional delegation, led to speculation that he would throw his support behind the Democratic nominee.
However, a spokesman for the Nebraska senator insisted in August that "Senator Hagel has no intention of getting involved in any of the campaigns and is not planning to endorse either candidate".

[RockyMt]

Originally Posted by Gog

Cindy McCain gives me the creeps. Really, she's dead behind the eyes. Sarah makes my gonads retract. She's got every Archie Bunker in America humping her poster. I guess God's soccer mom IS everywhere SHE should be, leaving HER 'chosen' children to foster more choice children,(out of wedlock), while she rids the empire of the corruption she was for but now she's against.

I like John McCain a bit but he's 27 years now, being a professional politician round and about, from the top to the underbelly in Washington, loaded up to his gills with lobbyists, he's filthy, stinking rich, and voted 95% with Bush. If I were hiring(voting), I'd take a pass on the odds that he would do what he said, regarding cleaning up Washington, making anything work, uniting, saving or fixing squat, or that he'd turncoat on his friends and business partners. Do the math.

What I like about Obama is that he acknowledges reality. On the ground, in the water and in the air. He's speaks intelligently because he's extraordinarily intelligent. That is what America needs now, extraordinary intelligence!!!
America doesn't need the old Gaurd greasing their lousy palms again while the world falls into kaos from their rapturists actions.
If you cant see how amazing Obama is, simply for even being in this race, against staggering odds, then I guess you cant see ANY alternatives to eight years of total, miserable failure.

What I'd like to see is the Right Wing ding aling conservative Republican people of America to sign a waiver... If McCain makes is worse, they all pack a big suitcase, with a gagged and drugged Canadian conservative in it, and fly straight to the Mars Hilton.

Gee gog, how 'bout Barbara (gag!) Streisand and Robert (puke!) Redford, Michael (psycopathic liar) Moore and all the other Hollywierd fags (F.ilm A.ctors G.uild) moving to canada (intentional small "c") like they "threatened" to do if G.W. was elected to a 2nd term. FAGS!....Just wishfull thinking I guess.

-Rocky-