51,
You're such a personable fellow. Making friends everywhere on this forum.
But, you're not winning your little AGW debate. Proves one thing though about pot users. They can't do math.
Your bud,
nero
Have you been drinking today? Too many Buds in front of the TV?
This has been fun but I think we've reached a dead end, Fartwad.
Edit note: The above is directed at Old Fart. Zero does not exist - as in nothing, ya nappy-headed foo.
__________________ "...let us not ignore the truth among ourselves, that we are the aggressors and they defend themselves. The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down."
David Ben-Gurion (the father of Israel) "When fascism comes to America it will be draped in a flag and holding a cross." Sinclair Lewis I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands. One nation, indivisible, with liberty, and justice for all.
Gee, I wonder if hacked data could be manipulated? Do you think that might be possible?
How precious. LOL!
Ya I suppose it could always be possible except for the part where the guy from CRU suspiciously forgot what he meant by that remark, instead of saying he never made such a remark.
You MMGW fanatics were freaks then and even bigger freaks now that it's been leaked out and you're too immature to be outraged by the fact that an entire group of ppl were looking to SCAM the world and bilk taxpayers out of more $$$$$$$$$$$$. Really, you should be ashamed of yourself, go jump off the GGB already.
Oh wait, I forgot, I will be next year. What next? Boxers or briefs?
__________________ "...let us not ignore the truth among ourselves, that we are the aggressors and they defend themselves. The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down."
David Ben-Gurion (the father of Israel) "When fascism comes to America it will be draped in a flag and holding a cross." Sinclair Lewis I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands. One nation, indivisible, with liberty, and justice for all.
Ya I suppose it could always be possible except for the part where the guy from CRU suspiciously forgot what he meant by that remark, instead of saying he never made such a remark.
You MMGW fanatics were freaks then and even bigger freaks now that it's been leaked out and you're too immature to be outraged by the fact that an entire group of ppl were looking to SCAM the world and bilk taxpayers out of more $$$$$$$$$$$$. Really, you should be ashamed of yourself, go jump off the GGB already.
Better explain that, XTURD . Bilk the taxpayers?
I really, really find it amusing that from one or more ten-year old e-mails that are so ambiguously worded, and that no one seems to remember or can explain what they were talking about so long ago, you guys jump to the conclusion that there was a grand conspiracy about fooling the world into believing GW. Toward what end? Do you fear that evil scientists could take over the world? Give me a break. You nuts are nuts. How many gunmen were there again? Yeah, I'm really ashamed of myself. Hah, hah.
This is becoming surreal.
Gag, why don't you come talk to these whack-jobs for awhile. I'm tiring of the insanity.
__________________ "...let us not ignore the truth among ourselves, that we are the aggressors and they defend themselves. The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down."
David Ben-Gurion (the father of Israel) "When fascism comes to America it will be draped in a flag and holding a cross." Sinclair Lewis I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands. One nation, indivisible, with liberty, and justice for all.
How does 51 pass a drug test for an employer? If he worked for me as soon as the results came back he'd be out the door before he took his jacket off.
As soon as I saw Fart I knew this would be good. You just make me shake my head and laugh.
A drug test for what? Red Bull? Starbucks? Dom Perignon?
Oh, you must mean the plant who's affects only last about 30 minutes to four hours, depending on whether you smoke it or eat it. Well, how does what someone does in the privacy of their own home a whole half day before work have anything to do with safety in the workplace? It doesn't. Drug testing for pot is nonsense because it is detectable in the blood even though the affects passed many hours ago. In fact, since it lodges in the fat, it can even be detectable a month after last use. Are people stoned a month after use if you were a heavy user? Of course not. They aren't even stoned the next day. Not one bit. Again, the rules that society comes up with concerning weed are a joke. One big fat joke. That's why society is a joke. So many people lack knowledge and common sense. You are one of the ignorrant. Sorry, but you're an idiot on this matter...and a few others. Nanny state. Why don't you find a real issue instead of an immaginary one. Big brother lover. Just admit it. You want to fire a toker because you hate him for ignorrant reasons, not because his action affects his performance. You're a marijuana biggot. Probably because you are old enough to remember hippies or some other dumb shit reason...dumb s
Oh, forget it.
By the way, I wouldn't work for anyone who did drug testing on anyone who wasn't under the influence AT WORK. I believe in freedom too much to participate in that chirade. Reminds me too much of Iran.
__________________ "...let us not ignore the truth among ourselves, that we are the aggressors and they defend themselves. The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down."
David Ben-Gurion (the father of Israel) "When fascism comes to America it will be draped in a flag and holding a cross." Sinclair Lewis I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands. One nation, indivisible, with liberty, and justice for all.
the part where the guy from CRU suspiciously forgot what he meant by that remark, instead of saying he never made such a remark.
Your reaction to this is a good example of your extreemism. His reaction is the normal reaction of an honest person - to not deny - to honestly say I don't know. Newsflash: IT WAS TEN FRIGGIN YEARS AGO. Do you remember nebulous sentences in your ten-year old e-mails? Your bias is amazingly evident.
__________________ "...let us not ignore the truth among ourselves, that we are the aggressors and they defend themselves. The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down."
David Ben-Gurion (the father of Israel) "When fascism comes to America it will be draped in a flag and holding a cross." Sinclair Lewis I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands. One nation, indivisible, with liberty, and justice for all.
Here we see evidence of religious zealots unwilling to concede points evidently true but not supportive of their beliefs. It’s what religious bigots do to atheists and other religions; they use lies and omissions because facts do not support what they fervently believe in. It is a corruption of scientific method, and for what purpose – to support their global warming religion. It is intolerance, rejection of diversity, and clearly a religion; it certainly isn’t science. But it is what liberals do.
Oh, and the NY Times will not be printing any of the emails. Why? The Times states that since the emails were not meant for public viewing the Times will respect the authors. Yea,right... same as with those interrogation documents and many other State secrets you got hold of, right? Hello?
And remember - these emails are between those "highly respected scientists" that some of you hold in such high esteem.
Man-Made Global Warming - one of the largest scams ever pulled on the public.
Tuesday, November 24, 2009
EDITORIAL: Hiding evidence of global cooling
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
Scientific progress depends on accurate and complete data. It also relies on replication. The past couple of days have uncovered some shocking revelations about the baloney practices that pass as sound science about climate change.
It was announced Thursday afternoon that computer hackers had obtained 160 megabytes of e-mails from the Climate Research Unit (CRU) at the University of East Anglia (UEA) in England. Those e-mails involved communication among many scientific researchers and policy advocates with similar ideological positions all across the world. Those purported authorities were brazenly discussing the destruction and hiding of data that did not support global-warming claims.
Professor Phil Jones, the head of the Climate Research Unit, and professor Michael E. Mann at Pennsylvania State University, who has been an important scientist in the climate debate, have come under particular scrutiny. Among his e-mails, Mr. Jones talked to Mr. Mann about the "trick of adding in the real temps to each series ... to hide the decline [in temperature]."
Mr. Mann admitted that he was party to this conversation and lamely explained to the New York Times that "scientists often used the word 'trick' to refer to a good way to solve a problem 'and not something secret.' " Though the liberal New York newspaper apparently buys this explanation, we have seen no benign explanation that justifies efforts by researchers to skew data on so-called global-warming "to hide the decline." Given the controversies over the accuracy of Mr. Mann's past research, it is surprising his current explanations are accepted so readily.
There is a lot of damning evidence about these researchers concealing information that counters their bias. In another exchange, Mr. Jones told Mr. Mann: "If they ever hear there is a Freedom of Information Act now in the UK, I think I'll delete the file rather than send to anyone" and, "We also have a data protection act, which I will hide behind." Mr. Jones further urged Mr. Mann to join him in deleting e-mail exchanges about the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change's (IPCC) controversial assessment report (ARA): "Can you delete any emails you may have had with Keith re [the IPCC's Fourth Assessment Report]?"
In another e-mail, Mr. Jones told Mr. Mann, professor Malcolm K. Hughes of the University of Arizona and professor Raymond S. Bradley of the University of Massachusetts at Amherst: "I'm getting hassled by a couple of people to release the CRU station temperature data. Don't any of you three tell anybody that the UK has a Freedom of Information Act!"
At one point, Mr. Jones complained to another academic, "I did get an email from the [Freedom of Information] person here early yesterday to tell me I shouldn't be deleting emails." He also offered up more dubious tricks of his trade, specifically that "IPCC is an international organization, so is above any national FOI. Even if UEA holds anything about IPCC, we are not obliged to pass it on." Another professor at the Climate Research Unit, Tim Osborn, discussed in e-mails how truncating a data series can hide a cooling trend that otherwise would be seen in the results. Mr. Mann sent Mr. Osborn an e-mail saying that the results he was sending shouldn't be shown to others because the data support critics of global warming.
Repeatedly throughout the e-mails that have been made public, proponents of global-warming theories refer to data that has been hidden or destroyed. Only e-mails from Mr. Jones' institution have been made public, and with his obvious approach to deleting sensitive files, it's difficult to determine exactly how much more information has been lost that could be damaging to the global-warming theocracy and its doomsday forecasts.
We don't condone e-mail theft by hackers, though these e-mails were covered by Britain's Freedom of Information Act and should have been released. The content of these e-mails raises extremely serious questions that could end the academic careers of many prominent professors. Academics who have purposely hidden data, destroyed information and doctored their results have committed scientific fraud. We can only hope respected academic institutions such as Pennsylvania State University, the University of Arizona and the University of Massachusetts at Amherst conduct proper investigative inquiries.
Most important, however, these revelations of fudged science should have a cooling effect on global-warming hysteria and the panicked policies that are being pushed forward to address the unproven theory.
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2001 ST4 Mod Rod
Built by BCM in 2004 and still running like a clock. 120 HP at the rear wheel. 55 mpg. Thanks Bruce (and Jay)!
As soon as I saw Fart I knew this would be good. You just make me shake my head and laugh.
A drug test for what? Red Bull? Starbucks? Dom Perignon?
Oh, you must mean the plant who's affects only last about 30 minutes to four hours, depending on whether you smoke it or eat it. Well, how does what someone does in the privacy of their own home a whole half day before work have anything to do with safety in the workplace? It doesn't. Drug testing for pot is nonsense because it is detectable in the blood even though the affects passed many hours ago. In fact, since it lodges in the fat, it can even be detectable a month after last use. Are people stoned a month after use if you were a heavy user? Of course not. They aren't even stoned the next day. Not one bit. Again, the rules that society comes up with concerning weed are a joke. One big fat joke. That's why society is a joke. So many people lack knowledge and common sense. You are one of the ignorrant. Sorry, but you're an idiot on this matter...and a few others. Nanny state. Why don't you find a real issue instead of an immaginary one. Big brother lover. Just admit it. You want to fire a toker because you hate him for ignorrant reasons, not because his action affects his performance. You're a marijuana biggot. Probably because you are old enough to remember hippies or some other dumb shit reason...dumb s
Oh, forget it.
By the way, I wouldn't work for anyone who did drug testing on anyone who wasn't under the influence AT WORK. I believe in freedom too much to participate in that chirade. Reminds me too much of Iran.
Your post shows your inexperience with the pitfalls of business ownership, one of which is "due dilligance", you HAVE to drug test your employees BEFORE you hire 'em. If you don't, and one of 'en screws the pooch, and runs someone down in a company vehicle, or any number of other things, YOU will be judged to have meen negligent for not screening substance abusers out. Sheet, you won't even get an insurance broker to write you a policy without a regimen in place. The way I look at it, anyone who's too fookin' stupid to not figure out how to pass a pre-employment drug screen, I don't want working for me......In addition, if they are ever injured on the job, you need to have them tested to comply with insurance demands. (the ins. company is looking for ANY loophole to avoid paying out on a claim! ) This my friend, is the reality of being a small business owner.
Semper Fi!
-Rocky-
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Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, because they live in the gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat."
Your reaction to this is a good example of your extreemism.
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Your bias is amazingly evident.
Holy shit dude, you really need a shrink if you cant see the irony in those two sentences.
Remembering what one said 10 yrs ago isn't the issue here, what is the issue is the fabrication of an event that really is NOT caused by man but a natural occurrence. Also, the collusion of a number of these imbeciles working together to keep the recent global cooling trend a secret from us.
Regarding the bilking tax payers remark, it's pretty clear to me that weed isn't the only thing you're vaporizing. Go read the first dozen or so pages to refresh that fried brain.
The morons who think MMGW is a hoax are just that: morons.
Polar bears are ****ing like kangaroos, intelligent design is 'real' lol, they'll greet us as liberators, the fundamentals of the..aw shite, the list goes on forever.
Mocking a dangerous, critical resource as if it's a competition of gotchas... what a bunch of stupid ignorant, idiotic fools!
It's just not worth trying to convince them that the world is changing. They would still champion cigarettes if LardBlaugh told them "liberals" were behind the misinformation.
Show them the world is filling up to 'never seen before' levels, getting denser(like you guys) and things are compounding and what do you get? Typical, ignorant, childish bullshit. Same bullshit that claims they know god. Leave it to right wingers and we'd see ourselves with Middle Eastern mentalities and shit, hillbilly philosophies. More prisons, more spying, more bombing, more torture and all that RW "jazz". They should be bannned from social discourse because they bring lies and childish, reckless abandon to such a critical fields. They dismiss the earth as readily as EL Smith dismissed icebergs. They're nowhere to be found when it comes to ruminating and learning. They're busy dodging, trying to stay out of jail, hushing scandals and telling more lies. Barforama.
Run science run! The ding-a-lings want to replace you with politics, ignorance and religion! Run!
Even if you are an outside contractor (such as an electrician) and worked inside drug-free facilities such as factories, you should hope to hell you never are injured or injure someone else at their site. See if insurance pays if the party tests positive.
Yea, I got mad when I first found out there was no Santa Claus, so I understand your need to lash out. And to pass your time you cango here and read all the emails from the serious scientists, the guys in the know, the one's who are big fans of MMGW. You know, the ones like you who know that MMGW is real and is a terrible threat to planet Earth.
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2001 ST4 Mod Rod
Built by BCM in 2004 and still running like a clock. 120 HP at the rear wheel. 55 mpg. Thanks Bruce (and Jay)!
I won't even ATTEMPT to read this thread as it seems to have devolved into a pissing contest . Answering the OP ... the melting of glaciers and the rapidly declining polar bear population a short distance north of my home aren't in my imagination .
rapidly declining polar bear population a short distance north of my home aren't in my imagination .
CITE?!?!?
According to the person who filmed his reply to Bore's documentary (Inconvenient Truth) engages Bore himself asking him about the 7 inaccuracies in his film, one of them about the polar bear population. This person corrected Bore in saying that the P.B. population is actually on the rise so I would like to see where you're getting your information.
Another interesting article about this debacle. The only thing missing from the liberal kooks is the link/tie to big bad Bush being involved in this somehow.
I deliberated keying this, as it's essentially a case study echo of policy as per Rockys post.
Here's how it works 51toker...
About 5-8 years ago I had an employee that fell off a ladder during work. Broke his arm, contusions, concussed, etc. At the hospital they did the blood draw routine and well lookie here what we found. A little antihistamine, and some smokiepoo floatin in the red stuff. Patched him up and sent him home.
Naturally HR quickly got a condensed yet red flagged hospital report through the insurance company. Upon his return two weeks later I did what I'll now coin as the A51 ground loop. Canned him with the jacket still on. Unless you've done it, you can't believe the amount of paperwork OSHA, the ambo chasers, and insurance companies need completed.
A decent guy but I can't help but think maybe a little residual buzz was a component of the accident. His option of maintaining company insurance for 90 days was elected.
Based on his event and tests, part of the policy is an outpatient drug rehab program for 30 days. I got a very, like waayy nasty call from him when he got a letter from the DA as they were deliberating a misdemeanor on him as the program has it's own reporting criteria. More likely a scare than anything else but perhaps it worked. Note that this data is also filed with the state insurance commission. I'm sure this will haunt the guy for years in his employment success. Again, this chem habit screwed up a good guy that has 2-3 kids, nice wife, was a good worker etc. Buy you can't circumvent reality .
Toke on bro! Come work for me and you'll be peeing in a cup weekly.
You have kids and still smoke that huh?
) This my friend, is the reality of being a small business owner.
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