I suppose we've come round in some kind of circle. Now the poor, ignorant, greedy leaders and pandering flock want to be the experts.. the deciders. It's obvious you guys are racists, bigots and (un)naturalists. Of course you're going to reject anything complicated or diverse. You do it with races and genders, you do it with creatures and resources and you do it with people. This is what narrow minded, indoctrinated fools do.
You will probably twist this around, and I'm not even sure this proves anything, but you should know that I adopted an orphan child of another race, as well as recently supporting a charity that helps train and fund doctors in third world countries to perform life-changing (life-saving?) cleft pallete surgeries for impoverished children.
I am no saint, and will prove it now when I tell you to go f*** a dead goat you ignorant piece of s***.
You will probably twist this around, and I'm not even sure this proves anything, but you should know that I adopted an orphan child of another race, as well as recently supporting a charity that helps train and fund doctors in third world countries to perform life-changing (life-saving?) cleft pallete surgeries for impoverished children.
I am no saint, and will prove it now when I tell you to go f*** a dead goat you ignorant piece of s***.
I suppose when a racist blathers his ignorant snout here, your silence should not inflect a complacency in racism, tolerance of hate, casual conversation or silent nod. I should have known that. I should know that you dont believe in beating people, spying, naked aggression... Just because you never object to racism and vote for lies and lame ducks, I should know that you're really dead set against those ideas and actions.
I applaud your charity support. May your rainbow family breathe freely and drink safely forever and your children's children enjoy life on earth freely and unhindered by inequality or poverty. Further than you have dreamed in your philosophy
Finally the answer I have been waiting for. The Great and All-Knowing Gog can't give an answer of even a ballpark number of man's responsibility for Global Warming. You as well as everyone else in the field doesn't know. Don't have a ****ing clue in fact. All you can conclude is that the Earth is warming, and people burn fossil fuels...therefore we must be the only cause.
I believe earlier in this thread I posted something about liberalism and/or atheism is such a self-centered view. MAN is all-powerful. MAN must be the only cause, as he is master of the world. MAN is therefore the only possible way to cure this issue. This does not require a particular religion, or any religious beliefs for that matter. But it does require that you be rational and attempt to assess the possible causes and their impact, you clearly are not rational, I feel sorry for your wife unless she is just as nuts as you. These Global Warming Crusaders are the new communists. Kill all human motivation to better ourselves under heavy-handed laws which will ultimately be futile.
When I ask the question about what percentage is due to man, this is to illustrate that we don't know the number, therefore we also cannot ascertain the effectiveness of whatever measures we may take to stop it. That doesn't mean we shouldn't do anything, in fact I have supported alternative sources of energy and conservation. Even in the company I work for, the single biggest user of utilities in a city of 300,000. But that will only happen worldwide if it makes or saves money. It is the ultimate irony that the anti-capitalists will never be able to solve this issue, it will take ingenuity driven by entrepreneurs that will finally make smokestacks a quaint relic of the past and all our personal transportation run on seawater.
It would be entirely possible that we could ban the internal combustion engine, execute people in developing nations who burn forests, and slaughter all the methane belching cattle worldwide. We could do all this, and the Earth might STILL warm. What do we do then?
If I can slip in another ?
It's NOT anything to do with any particular religion or lack of belief, nor any kind of "ego" that leads all rational people to understand the effect Man has had on the planet.
You only have to spend a while in the strip-mines of Papua New Guinea, look at the open pits of the diamond mines near Jo'berg, watch as the lumber is dragged off the Amazon basin to clear the land for farting cattle to make beef-burgers for farting sheep, watch the slurry swilling over the dead coral reefs, count the number of dead fish and birds as they bob in the red tide that licks at the shores all around our planet, look at Google Earth as it peers through the thick haze of funk and smog that swarms like a living thing down the Rhone valley, or crawls over the San Fernando valley, chokes the basin around Teheran, and fugs the sky over the oil-wells in Arabia.
We have as much, if not more effect on our ecosystem as the Solar radiation and sunflares that get some Deniers all excited.
We are a thousand times worse than the swarm of locusts that teem like flying waves across the fertile heartlands.
But we're here. We're not going away, so isn't it better to start thinking and working TOGETHER to find solutions ?
We've created most of this current mess, isn't it not outlandish to understand that we can possibly UN-DO the damage, or at least minimize it by our actions ?
Communism or what-ever "ism" you've been told is linked in with the "Green" movement is NOT the solution, but creative, ethical capitalism may well be. Seen much of that, lately ?
As for your reasoning that the "eco-warriors" are the "neo-communists", c'mon, your whole presumptive dogma falls apart like the ice-fields here. Dynamic growth and responsibility is what the new green energy researchers are looking for, and employment is one of the keys. It may mean such terrible ideas as profit-sharing and ethical behavior, though...
Finished, the old days of belching factories and dumping because it enhanced profits for a tiny minority, we're all in this together, and this blinkered view of how "bad" the greening of our thought and industrial processes needs to become is plain wrong.
Again, look at acid rain, and the bitchin' and moanin' from the automobile and industrial lobbies over the EPA, and now look at the trillions saved and indeed earned by simply being a little more conscientious and actually THINKING about what we were doing.
The only people still whinging are either those who have NOT understood the benefits of a cleaner planet, or those who have not grasped that even the Third World are making the effort that they can ill afford, but that a tiny handful of über-rich are resisting in the West their right (!! ) to have gold-plated swimming pools...and they're paying sly lobbyists and cunning manipulators to get you to trot along behind their reeking shadow.
I guess I still believe in doing something, and not nothing. But I like to try and understand WHAT it is I should do and why first.
I think I have. Do you ?
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Finally the answer I have been waiting for. The Great and All-Knowing Gog can't give an answer of even a ballpark number of man's responsibility for Global Warming. You as well as everyone else in the field doesn't know. Don't have a ****ing clue in fact. All you can conclude is that the Earth is warming, and people burn fossil fuels...therefore we must be the only cause.
Mano man, how pathetic. Your great cosmic understanding of man is to say other planets are warming too, therefore, dont pay attention to the FACT that these other planets dont have 7 billion people and an industrial revolution based on burning the greenery(which, they also dont have). The earth has had many cycles but NEVER have we seen one species cause such global change. You think rapture will eliminate the need to make too extensive a plan B.
I do know what I see when I travel. I dont hear of your great travels or observations. Maybe the air and water is fine in Possum Creek. I hear only retarded, redundant, unanswerable, pre packaged tripe loaded with self inflating religious bullshit. In the end you justify your childish views with;
"We could do all this, and the Earth might STILL warm. What do we do then?" Heavens forbid we take precautions and use logic instead of faith.
WTF. You're saying it might not work so dont bother cuz we may waste some money or look foolish. You sound just like McCain last night. trying to talk down to Obama about walking softly but not too thoughtful of his bomb Iran comments or his annihilate N. Korea or a dozen other threatening, condescending, neocon ass wipery statements he has gaffed upon a disapproving public.
I heard if Barack gets in he's going to bomb heaven...oh no. Run Jesus run!
I believe earlier in this thread I posted something about liberalism and/or atheism is such a self-centered view. MAN is all-powerful. MAN must be the only cause, as he is master of the world. MAN is therefore the only possible way to cure this issue. Who the **** else is there? Oh man, this is just childish.
This does not require a particular religion, or any religious beliefs for that matter. But it does require that you be rational and attempt to assess the possible causes and their impact, you clearly are not rational, I feel sorry for your wife unless she is just as nuts as you. These Global Warming Crusaders are the new communists. Kill all human motivation to better ourselves under heavy-handed laws which will ultimately be futile.
WTF .... now your party and people are motivated? Hahahahahah black is white, up is down and religious people should just move to Wasilla and be silent. Just be quiet and wait....
Unfuking believable.... The motivation to be very careful with the "utimate resource" that alarmed people feel is now "heavy handed" but the motivation that has been completely absent from your vote and voice is just what? A solution?
There are crusaders on this planet. They come in the form of Bushies, religious asses, capitalist Nazis. Your political beliefs encompass all of these losing ideologies. Your lack of scientific knowledge puts you at odds with nature(go figure). I could ask you the same dumb ass, juvenile questions but. alas, I know what awaits. You can actually lecture people that deforestation combined with burning another, entire, underground forest is not going to affect the planet in a very serious way. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a lefty communist... We need only to follow your imprinting to understand why it shows up in your ridiculous posts.
If you want to play grown up science... grow up. If you're too busy with your head up your ass, STFU. Who needs your disproved concepts, failed thinking and massive failure list?
Right wingers never admit that they are wrong or uniformed or that they're been scammed jammed or lost in space. Just rant about a lefty conspiracy to understand the natural world and the dangers of industrialism and greed.
When I ask the question about what percentage is due to man, this is to illustrate that we don't know the number,(it illustrates how childish and arrogant you are) therefore we also cannot ascertain the effectiveness of whatever measures we may take to stop it. Hahahaha, nice one Rush.
Man you are so full of yourself. You wanted so badly to have an answer. OK, how many filthy rich capitalists are getting into heaven? Just as retarded as your question... you probably have an answer!noooo!
That doesn't mean we shouldn't do anything, in fact I have supported alternative sources of energy and conservation. (I vote for a man who is clueless about the ecology but I support ecology otherwise)Even in the company I work for, the single biggest user of utilities in a city of 300,000. But that will only happen worldwide if it makes or saves money.
That wont happen with stupid, greedy assholes, that you vote for, making decisions.
It is the ultimate irony that the anti-capitalists will never be able to solve this issue, it will take ingenuity driven by entrepreneurs that will finally make smokestacks a quaint relic of the past and all our personal transportation run on seawater. You voted for an idiot who puts contempt, ignorance and profit before nature and conservation. Your vote drowns any greenery you promoted at work or play. If you dont understand this, you're further gone than I thought you were.
It would be entirely possible that we could ban the internal combustion engine, execute people in developing nations who burn forests, and slaughter all the methane belching cattle worldwide. We could do all this, and the Earth might STILL warm. What do we do then?
Frustrating when you can't indoctrinate someone as easily as the starbucks crowd you lord over.......
-Rocky-
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Dude, you yet again have confused who you are arguing with. You answer or refute nothing and only attack.
So how much electricity have you wasted arguing in this thread? How many kilos of CO2 were released in the production of the computer you use to type your inane rantings? How do you travel the world, by bicycle using organic rubber retread tires?
You sir, are a the worst type of lunatic. A hypocritical dumbass who thinks they are "saving" the world, when in truth you are no different than everyone else. You consume, and while you could consume less, you have reached a level of consumption where you feel it is your right to look down your sanctimonious nose at everyone else.
I never thought I'd say this to anyone, but you make mrgrn actually look intelligent.
I don't think the lower level of gags consuption is due to anything other than his minimum wage job. (or is it welfare?)
-Rocky-
PS> Guess that degree in lesbian studies 'aint helping much in a down market huh?
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Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, because they live in the gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat."
Finally the answer I have been waiting for. The Great and All-Knowing Gog can't give an answer of even a ballpark number of man's responsibility for Global Warming. You as well as everyone else in the field doesn't know. Don't have a ****ing clue in fact. All you can conclude is that the Earth is warming, and people burn fossil fuels...therefore we must be the only cause.
It would be entirely possible that we could ban the internal combustion engine, execute people in developing nations who burn forests, and slaughter all the methane belching cattle worldwide. We could do all this, and the Earth might STILL warm. What do we do then?
Goggoid:
As conifers (pine trees for you) emit more hydrocarbons than some internal combustion engines, will you take up the fight to have them cut down?
YES, I am using resources. I am consuming nature. I am eating food that is grown in fields that were once trees. I have always had a motorcycle, or two, for 35 years... some of them stinky, I also a run a small van. a house and some nice antique furniture, micro, computer, (NO TV ra ra ra)!!
I have also traveled extensively by bike, car, train, airplane, ship, boat. I have clothed myself in cottons, nylon, plastic, poly whatever. I have painted shit, broken shit, consumed and wasted shit. I am guilty and a admit it. But I am humble in nature, singing it's hymn, as best I can and speaking out against arrogant mothers who never seem to know a current, a stream, a breeze or the living world surrounding them. I do with less not because I cant afford it but because I dont want to go to bed at night thinking about my mindless consumption and output of trash and banal consumerism.
I admit, have bludgeoned, gutted, cooked and eaten many amazing sea critters and devoured them. I used to consume nameless, faceless, chemical laced and cruel supermarket meats(28 years now NOT), I have eaten stuff I didnt even know where it came from. When I was arrogant and immature like you guys, I did things I still wish, to this day, I hadn't done. I am sorry that more people are not humbled by Earth and that less people treat it with respect, especially as they "grow" and "learn" and "evolve".
I make a daily, concerted efforts to reduce, reuse and recycle. I haven't thrown a battery in the trash for 20 years. I have recycled just about anything that can be recycled. I am careful about who I support with my purchases. I am fervently avoiding as many shit Chinese(and other) products as possible. I buy locally whenever I can. I will spend time looking to make sure too!
I read a lot about the planet, it's people and our history together and try to understand what I can do to reduce my impact/footprint. What can I do to prevent the future from being deadly or in hospital to my grand kids?
I dont use poisons on my property for any reasons. Nothing liberal, commie or lefty about it. No I cannot give you a scientific or mathematical number of how much I have reduced my impact regarding poison, greenhouse gas, carbon emission etc. I support my Green party and I practice what I preach to the best of my abilities. Many days I feel it's not enough and many days I feel foolish for even worrying about it. Many days I am disheartened by fellas like you who act as if you're god's gift to earth. You're not, God is dead, he ran away from his failed, human science experiment.
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As conifers (pine trees for you) emit more hydrocarbons than some internal combustion engines, will you take up the fight to have them cut down?
There really isnt much one can do with an asinine statement like that. It illustrates just how much stupidity is contained in the right wing mind. The complications of religious indoctrination are shielding grown adult men from manly observation of the planet they survey. It reminds us of how many arse fuk battles remain with a group of idiot thinkers who seem bent on breaking everything with arrogant abandon. It's exhausting to butt into the non stop platform of dumb ideas coming from the controlling, fringe right. Oh, Non stop battle to help these creationists/capitalists understand that the earth is more than four thousand years old.
In the end, those who attempt to reduce their consumption, buy green, mitigate footprints, think ahead and care enough to try some common sense, maybe sacrifice some luxuries and do the right thing, these are people that make sense to me. The arrogant, greedy consumer is just a juvenile sack of non compostable shit to me.
Maybe your judgments of Earth are fairing better than mine. Maybe you know something I dont. Could be. I doubt it though. I see you guys as the same people who plundered the money markets while your unscrupulous elected officials gave reassurances that all was OK. You voted them in, you cheer lead for them, you sang their praises and you did it twice in a row and now stand, proudly, ready to do it again...what a sad, sad lot.
Maybe you're the looters who smash and grab the ecology and you want leaders who make that an easy pleasure. "I only voted for them" you say.... I say you're the numbnuts who bomb nature and culture , without hesitation, truth, research, consultation or diplomacy for a stupid chant, a lame ass excuse, ruthless and a greedy fraternity. The people you vote in are your implements, they are your tools, not your masters. Ra ra ra for the bullies who cause so much grief and cost so much to the spirit of humanity. I see it as so. Somehow, diplomacy means shock and awe in your peon mentality.
You should be ashamed but you are proud. You should make an adaptation but you unabashedly plunder on. You should open your lame eyes while you read and research but you accept input from proven scoundrels and charlatans because you cant stop saluting goldfish! This ancient wing of humanity has been blighting us for thousands of years. Look to where we have lost and you will find this losing mentality. Somewhere along the line a humanoid must have facked a neanderthal's pet monkey and left some stubborn, recessive genes that have been plaguing the smartest humans and the general good ever since...
Some of us want to stop this type of thing because we see it as the Freddie and Fanny approach to ecology. We know that McCain and flock would dismiss it as treehugging-hippy wishes whilst saying the fundamentals of the ecology are string. I believe you guys call it free market or capitalism or deregulation. Expect the same, sniveling, ignorant asswipes to fuss and block corrective measures or bitter still, to vote against alternatives to this kind of slash and burn. ...
Dear Hippy. I'm greener than you! I have no kids therefore no future grand kids to tear this planet up. I hear Canadian national health is running a special on vasectomys this month.
Wow... Look at all those conifers. That's gotta pollute more than 5000 SUV's. Start cuttin bro.
Dear gag,
Just wanted ya to know that after reading your poetic little rant, I ate a Slim Jim, had a giant Slurpee, and will now drive my HUGE Suburban (9 MPG!) home to watch my 60" plasma (probably made by 3rd world slaves) eat a HUGE steak and go for a swim in the 30,000 gallon pool I keep at 80 degrees ALL YEAR LONG! I'm glad there morons like you offsetting the ecological havoc I wreak upon this planet, 'cause otherwise I would've felt guilty......no need for that now eco-boy, ya see, it's a wash!
Love,
-Rocky-
PS This weekend I'm gonna watch the evil Blue Angels fly for Fleet Week over San Francisco Bay, so please cut back some more on yer carbon footprint, cuz those bad ass FA-18's burn a shitload of fuel.
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PS This weekend I'm gonna watch the evil Blue Angels fly for Fleet Week over San Francisco Bay, so please cut back some more on yer carbon footprint, cuz those bad ass FA-18's burn a shitload of fuel.[/quote]
Thanks Rock for the reminder.
To the esteemed hippy, could you pop me a couple carbon creds? I have a huge half dead elm that has to come down and I have to burn some diesel and gas to cut and split it this Saturday. Not to worry, I'll plant some conifers in its place for ya. Thanks bud, I knew I could count on you. You're a prince.
That was a great post, Gog.
I've seen a level of disconnected arrogance and a kind of ignorance that I never thought possible in the run-up to this General American Erection of their neo President, but it still seems incredible that people skilled enough to ride motorcycles are capable of being in denial of reality to such a degree.
Old fart, I had you down as someone with a clue. Please back up your statement that a conifer produces more hydrocarbons than a small internal combustion engine. The only way I could see this happening is by burning it, or by spinning figures, but then, that wouldn't be below some people.
Surprise me, I'm ready.
Rocky, no surprise from you.
I guess you can't lead a stubborn, thirsty and blinkered mule to water, you just have to find some way to clean up the carcass after it dies through aggravated stupidity.
Although, your bones sticking out of the dry, sandy wastes would look kinda poetic....
Tumbleweeds scurrying past as the arid wind blows across the Neo-dustbowl that California had become as the Deniers elected another Moron to REALLY finish themselves off.
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That was a great post, Gog.
I've seen a level of disconnected arrogance and a kind of ignorance that I never thought possible in the run-up to this General American Erection of their neo President, but it still seems incredible that people skilled enough to ride motorcycles are capable of being in denial of reality to such a degree.
Old fart, I had you down as someone with a clue. He does have loads of clues. He's just slamming me back for the terse, "leftish" rant.
Please back up your statement that a conifer produces more hydrocarbons than a small internal combustion engine. The only way I could see this happening is by burning it, or by spinning figures, but then, that wouldn't be below some people.
Surprise me, I'm ready. Me too.
Rocky, no surprise from you.
I guess you can't lead a stubborn, thirsty and blinkered mule to water, you just have to find some way to clean up the carcass after it dies through aggravated stupidity.
Although, your bones sticking out of the dry, sandy wastes would look kinda poetic....
Tumbleweeds scurrying past as the arid wind blows across the Neo-dustbowl that California had become as the Deniers elected another Moron to REALLY finish themselves off.
Like a broke back moment...
I watched a neocon crowd last night chanting anti Obama slogans. Domestic terrorist, swindler, unAmerican, liar et al. Simply staggering that these people would treat a fellow American with such racist pride. It illustrates what kind of mind is behind the Republican campaign. I can see, almost to a phrase, the alarming parallels to the KKK and the Nazi party. They feel entitled to the golf course and think that "niggas" should not be allowed to play! They can actually falsify and spin a story that Phil Mickelson is a better golfer than Tiger. The spin, the hate, the failings. If only Hilter realized that the master race is made of mongrels. Poor Adolph didnt understand the science of ethnic vigor and that the same principals apply to ideas!.
Poor wing jobs dont understand the vigor of cooperation. Maybe, when the last breath of respect is lost, Americans will learn that the environment is being choked in a symphonic harmony, by stupid asses next door and from far away lands,... by those who are 50 years behind the times but hellbent on ownership of consumer goods. Ah yes, too stupid to supply them green goods for $$$. At this point, the "diplomacy" would be a day late and a holler short.
I thought maybe the people from other countries would be alarmed that a vicious swift boat is rearing it's ugly head again. Combined with voting fraud and overt hatred it's likely going to affect the elections... most dont give a shit about America any more! Too much neo con garbage, aggression, damage, lies and bumbling idiots. The world's respect for America is dangerously low.
With all their self righteous pride turned to conceit, there is little hope for the ecology. How unmanly to not protect our seed, our fertility, our constitution, our homes, our wives, children, heritage, our past or our future. Only a complete stupido would risk heading, or allow navigation to anyplace remotely associated with cellular destruction.
Maybe all that is left is joking...
Another classic post from a true PINHEAD, let see, anyone who votes against Hussein is RACIST?!?! (how 'bout we think A) he's got ZERO experience in the executive levels of govt. B) we disagree with his (and you) concept of re-distribution of wealth (socialisim) C) we have problems with his foreign policy (let sing kum-ba-ya with Iran) And to suggest that voter fraud is being brought on by republicans, what a clueless **** you truly are, EVERY case of fraud this election season has been tied DIRECTLY to dem. organizers (acorn etc) thru filing false registrations for illegals, dead people etc. But as sure as the sunrise, you and the rest of your ilk (sniveling LOSERS) will surely cry foul if things don't go your way. How sad. How pathetic!
-Rocky-
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Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, because they live in the gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat."
I have been waiting for this to be the subtle undertone of the medie and lunatics if it looks like Obama has any chance of losing: if you don't vote for Obama you are racist.
Voting FOR Obama because he is black is racist. Not voting for Obama because of the issues, regardless of his color, is not racist.
Sadly, I expect some percentage of the brainless electorate to vote for Obama as some sort of purge for their own "white guilt". Voting for Obama won't change the past, and might actually guide the future for the worse if everyone assumes that now race relations are perfect if Obama is elected.
Nobody said if you didnt vote for Obama that you're a racist. When you listen to Rush and other haters non-whitek races, when you chum with overt racists, when you chant for racist slogans, when your first instinct is to bomb other nations, beat black citizens, execute outrageous ratios of Blacks to Whites and wish death and ills upon the poorer legal or illeagal people of your society... that makes you racists.
Voting for McCain and Palin make you stupid. If you were running a business it would be bankrupt.. wait you did run your business bankrupt! You voted for the dumbest guy on earth...twice...shame on the lot of ya.
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Sadly, I expect some percentage of the brainless electorate to vote for Obama as some sort of purge for their own "white guilt".
Woser, the lost minds of the lunatic right. Wowser.
Wake up.. the smartest guy happens to be black...
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Another classic post from a true PINHEAD, let see, anyone who votes against Hussein is RACIST?!?! (how 'bout we think A) he's got ZERO experience in the executive levels of govt. B) we disagree with his (and you) concept of re-distribution of wealth (socialisim) C) we have problems with his foreign policy (let sing kum-ba-ya with Iran) And to suggest that voter fraud is being brought on by republicans, what a clueless **** you truly are, EVERY case of fraud this election season has been tied DIRECTLY to dem. organizers (acorn etc) thru filing false registrations for illegals, dead people etc. But as sure as the sunrise, you and the rest of your ilk (sniveling LOSERS) will surely cry foul if things don't go your way. How sad. How pathetic!
Rocky, taking care of people doesnt mean the end of Capitalism or free markets. I know you dont see color but maybe you can see a grey area. You want to ruin your country? Keep up the good work. You want your constitution wrecked by Benedict Arnolds? Good job Rocky. You want to "gag" on your own exhaust? Great job Rocky.
I know a racist when I smell one and, IMHO you settle for the worst leaders because they give you a huge palette of frightening things to whip you up and make you rally, protect and swerve...
Face it... You're white and you're lame...git TF off the dance floor.
Maybe America can produce another Reagan... wait, that means Hollyweird needs to swerve to the right..hahahaha.
Yer right my guilt riddled little boy, I AM white, and like most other Americans, we will put our collective heads down, get to WORK, and solve the financial problems facing us. (in the meantime bailing the rest of the world out while we're at it!) You, and your poor me/poor us loser friends will continue to bemoan their (self imposed) lot in life, rail out against "The Man" for all the percieved injustice in your tiny world, and continue to be nothing but a burden on society. Ya see, losers know how to lose, whereas winners, when faced with adversity, learn, adapt and find a way to win. We also refuse to lower our (earned) standards of living out of "guilt" for all the losers like yourself, who in a less civilized society would have starved generations ago, because there was no welfare "back in the day", you earned your (and your family's) keep. or you were some wolves dinner. You sir, would be dinner! (bon apetit!) By the way, in case yer wondering, I'm down "high" 5 figures as of yesterday in the stock market, but like most who understand whats going on, I also see some incredible opps in the current devalued market, and am ready to take full advantage of those opps. Crying in yer beer is for your type, seeing the glass as 1/2 full is for the rest of us. You can go back to reading Mao junior the rest of us will take care of things (and YOU!) Your "white guilt" makes you look like more of a loser than ever, playing the race card is soooo 1995.......
-Rocky-
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Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, because they live in the gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat."
You mean like a president who sends several hundred Americans to their death in Lebanon even though the CIA warned him not to? Or like someone who delays the funding of AIDS research by several years because he is a biggot, and by doing so guarantees that probably hundreds of thousands (if not more) will end up dead before a cure is found? Or do you mean the kind of president who takes credit for the fall of the Soviet Union even though they were long on the road to collapse due to their own failed system?
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