I rarely will post up on a subject that is controversial. Trying to explain physics to a "paint an emotional picture for my dependent personality then I'll understand" person like Gog is simply a waste of time. Wow, please do go on Mr. "I love Bush not matter what".
Tell us Gog, why is the temperature on the other planets in our solar system rising at the SAME rate that ours is? Also, can you provide is data of the temperature trends on your home planet of Gogulon? Then I'll believe you.
Tell me man, you always look to uninhabited planets for clues to your own planets human population/pollution explosion? What's that, some kind of interplanetary astrological litmus test? You praying to God for understanding? We're OK here if mars is OK? Tell me, we're in trouble here if Pluto over heats? Does you claim withstand reverse hypothesis?..um no. Have you ever thought that the Sun heats all Earth but one can find oneself freezing or searing to death on the same day? You cant tally cars, trucks, smoke stacks, clear cuts, carbon emissions and general, global dumping numbers, rising populations and consumption? Anyone who is counting consulting or caring is a hippie?
It's that kind of idiocy that crashes economies, cultures, eco systems and civilizations.
Tell me OF, when are enough failures enough? Where you're the laughing stock of the world? When you gag from pollutants?
I dont expect much from people who cheerlead for lying constitution rapers and trickle down. WTF... how many damn examples do you want? Not happy until you ram planet earth into the iceberg? We all know where the right wing rapture rappers/deniers end up.. in the life boat dressed as women.
Hippy..lol. By all account... Jesus was a Hippy!
You guys need to make a joke about everything until disaster time and then, typically, you start blaming others, lying and looking for boogeymen.
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Tell us Gog, why is the temperature on the other planets in our solar system rising at the SAME rate that ours is?
That is a question you'll have to ask Sarah Palin because she looked up, saw the stars, prayed to god and now, she's an astrophysicist... . It demonstrates a childish, stunted conception of air, water, land, eco systems etc. Now that kind of ignorance wouldn't be so bad if it was just a bunch of ding-a-lings on a internet BB, but you guys vote in people as dumb, or dumber than yourselves. Yes the sun can make an object warmer/cooler if it's within/outside the range of it's rays. Tell me, do you know how it is the earth has ice and desert... all at the same time?
Please explain your position on planet Earth and the human condition. Is a planet the same whether it has a zero human inhabitants or 7 billion.. no difference? No need to pay attention? No need to adapt behaviors as changes increase, lessons are learned and knowledge is obtained? No need to protect ourselves? No regulation required? No lessons to be learned from exemplary social microcosms or well documented history? No need to apply even, kindergarten physics to the thought pool? No wonder you voted Bush.
I'll venture a guess that you know very little about the natural world and care even less...
This is your idiocy... Dog help us all.
Witch moose you want to hunt?
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Thanks for the video Gog. I don't know what to say about Sarah Palin. I'm just dumbfounded that she is even considered for #2 of a whole country, even a small whole country. McCain and Republicans have taken it to a whole 'nuther level.
For those who didn't make it to the end of the video, the lady in the Alaska feed concluded her report with this analysis of Alaskans impression of this pastor:
"It's even weird for Alaskans, I assure you."
Weird.
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To the esteemed Mr. Gogula:
Perhaps I expected a legitimate response to the question of what the temperature rise is on Gogulon. My apologies. All I got were denials and a switchy spinny to a political party causing the big bang.
Aah, lessee. I have to scroll a bit to review and respond to your musings.
Uninhabited planets. Last time I checked they are in our relative vicinity (an easy commute for you apparently) and with rising temps at the same rate as inhabited planets. Mine and yours. It's cyclic, get over it.
God (not Gog) and Jesus the hippy have nothing to do with the planet warming. Get a grip. BTW, was that Gog in the tree hugger video? I think you should leave the beautiful province of NS. You would be in your element if you moved to Oregon. Mmmm, love, peace, and your agenda. Nirvana! Maybe Algore can share his hoax hard earned millions with you.
Sara Palin is just another political candidate and has nothing to do with the chicken little philosophy of planet warming. Like politicos here and in Canada they're pretty much useless. I don't hunt and moose is a crappy meat. I prefer liberals. Tastes like chicken.
There will be more industrial and other commercial failures in the US and Canada. Many are the trickle down effect of the enviro movement. Once they occur the planet will cool down and we can again sell highly profitable ice cubes.
Human condition? Simple. The planet has to know when to stop screwing. Good luck on that one !!
Again, could you find the planet temperature trends for us and post with your superior insight?
Oops,, look down. Dude... you dropped your doobie.
To the esteemed Mr. Gogula:
Perhaps I expected a legitimate response to the question of what the temperature rise is on Gogulon. My apologies. All I got were denials and a switchy spinny to a political party causing the big bang.
Aah, lessee. I have to scroll a bit to review and respond to your musings.
Uninhabited planets. Last time I checked they are in our relative vicinity (an easy commute for you apparently) and with rising temps at the same rate as inhabited planets. Mine and yours. It's cyclic, get over it. Oh right, all planets have an industrial revolution and spiraling population of consumers, toxic economies that should be left unchecked because .00000000000 of surface degrees differ us from planets that share the same 'oxygen' levels as us. You're talking Palin points here. Repeat after me, We havent found humans on any of those planets yet!
God (not Gog) and Jesus the hippy have nothing to do with the planet warming. Get a grip. BTW, was that Gog in the tree hugger video? I think you should leave the beautiful province of NS. You would be in your element if you moved to Oregon. Mmmm, love, peace, and your agenda. Nirvana! Maybe Algore can share his hoax hard earned millions with you. Doesnt matter where I live on this planet dufus, it's one small, fragile environment that doesnt respond well to neocon handjobs and greedy assholes who know nothing of Earth,(like they knew nothing of Iraq, except there was oil there) nothing of it's history, it's eco systems or our long term, human needs. Stupid people like you are damaging the future because you cant pull your ass out of your head.
Sara Palin is just another political candidate and has nothing to do with the chicken little philosophy of planet warming. WOW possibly the next president of America Like politicos here and in Canada they're pretty much useless. I don't hunt and moose is a crappy meat. I prefer liberals. Tastes like chicken. Dude, face it, you'll never amount to even a toenail of Al Gore. Your loon brigade has failed... get it? please get it. Your diatribe against logic is simply..well, for lack of a better word... simple.
There will be more industrial and other commercial failures in the US and Canada. Many are the trickle down effect of the enviro movement. Once they occur the planet will cool down and we can again sell highly profitable ice cubes. Hmmm, fool.
Human condition? Simple. The planet has to know when to stop screwing. Good luck on that one !! Start by electing people who dont screw your constitution
Again, could you find the planet temperature trends for us and post with your superior insight?
All the information you'll ever need is contained somewhere(buried deep) in your lapsed lobes. The common people refer to it as common sense. I know that if you were up north trying to pass that lacky denier shit outlook on anyone, you'd be left for the Arctic ticks and desperate bear. Your unsophisticated sophomore shit doesnt fly in a critical environments and, thanks to your ignorant ilk, we're becoming more critical each day. All because ignorants are telling each other that there's nothing no worry about, no change required, no adaptation needed...sigh.
Oops,, look down. Dude... you dropped your doobie.
You make me want to smoke dude.
What you're saying is that other planets are "relatively" close and therefore we can base our behavior and future on what we think their surface temperature is... are you crazy AND stupid?
Why dont you keep looking for an inhabited planet for some gleanings? After all dude, if you look up to the night sky, you're an astrophysicist!(according to Palin anyhow) Oh, wait, there's nothing to worry about, stay the course is it? Hahah surely you jest.
What you are saying is this: If we use science to determine that temps are rising around the universe we can be sure that the complications of global warming(proved by the same science) are out of our control. The quotient of 7 billion busy beavers(and counting) doesent even need to be factored...
Mission accomplished I guess...
Sounds like Bush skipped over an excellent war strategist by not consulting you, you could have illuminated us much quicker than Dumbsfeld & Co. I guess you'd have know the history of Iraq before you invaded though huh? You'd have known the differences between Shiite and Sunni. Let me guess, you'd have voted against renewable energy and sent your children off to the desert sands...You could have consulted your astrolgy charts for an astrophysiological impression of what a Martian would do under the same situation...
Here was a golden opportunity to reset the global trip meter to 0 and start out with green air, green money and greener pastures but nooo, gotta go forward with these special needs, right wing whack jobs clinging to fears of Medevil witchcraft and hooga boogeymen...
we're facked...
Screw this political stuff. Are you guys ok with the hurricane coming through NS?
Not too bad a hit but enough to trigger memories of the mighty Juan five years ago this month.
It's funny you mention that cuz I was thinking that maybe God was sending messages to my hostiles in Texas via high winds and high water... then I got hit...ow... How humbling and how ridiculous a thought I suffered.
Cool. As much as I like being close to an ocean I'm sorta glad I don't live by one. We got the tail end of the last one while I was at the Indy GP. What a mess.....
Cool. As much as I like being close to an ocean I'm sorta glad I don't live by one. We got the tail end of the last one while I was at the Indy GP. What a mess.....
Try Cali, earthquake every 100 years or so, no worries...
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Try Cali, earthquake every 100 years or so, no worries...
-Rocky-
Caught NorthRidge... that's enough for one lifetime.
Shit, I saw people in Texas on the tele last night...coming back to hell. Kinda makes the politics melt away. Freakin heartbreak, depression and dismay. This summer I was away for a while and my basement window leaked a bit in the extra heavy rainfall, it was scorching hot afterward, the mold grew and, when I got home, there was an awful musty smelll in my house. It took a month to get rid of it.
Well, I saw people's homes FULL of water and thats real shitty. I'm thinking their homes are infused with mold now and their possessions gone or ruined... sigh. I couldn't wish that on even my most contentious right wing adversaries.
I think the heart of socialism is that we all look out for each other, now... to do it without policing free markets or killing capitalism... Gotta be a way!
Try Cali, earthquake every 100 years or so, no worries... -Rocky-
I was there for the Northridge and a couple years later for the back to back morning wakeup 5's.
For those who haven't experienced a quake it's pretty freaky. Ok, things start rockin and rollin with a sub audible rumble. No big deal, this building can stand the motion it's not too bad. But in 3 seconds your brain kicks in and you think 'how much more intense will this get'. 'How long will it last'. At 4 seconds your heart is thumping like crazy. Although equally as devastating, at least with a hurricane you can see what you are getting in advance.
I worked in Newport Beach for 4 months in 05 until a biz venture failed and I'd still move to Cali tomorrow if I could find a decent job. Friends and family are in Laguna, SD, and the inland empire. And the roads,, oh the canyons, oh the mountain roads. Sportbike paradise! And I don't have to shovel frickin snow.
Caught NorthRidge... that's enough for one lifetime.
was scorching hot afterward, the mold grew and, when I got home, there was an awful musty smelll in my house. It took a month to get rid of it.
Don't screw around with mold. That shit WILL kill you. Don't listen to the "experts". Even that it's now gone use several gallons of chlorine bleach in a garden sprayer and SOAK the hell out of your basement walls and floor. An older guy down the street had basement flooding from rains early this summer. He let it go for a couple months before he did the remodeling tear out. Nasty staph infection from black mold that put him in the hospital for 3 months. Pneumonia etc., and now he has only one lung.
Don't screw around with mold. That shit WILL kill you. Don't listen to the "experts". Even that it's now gone use several gallons of chlorine bleach in a garden sprayer and SOAK the hell out of your basement walls and floor. An older guy down the street had basement flooding from rains early this summer. He let it go for a couple months before he did the remodeling tear out. Nasty staph infection from black mold that put him in the hospital for 3 months. Pneumonia etc., and now he has only one lung.
Holy shit, I have just gotten off antibiotics for sinus infection which, I've never had before. It's very serious stuff and not something to ignore. My problem was relatively light compared to a soaked home... ouch.
I know what you mean about missing SoCal when the Autumn is over and the big chill is knocking at the doors and windows...brrr. We have the Atlantic a few feet away and it definitely helps to mitigate the deep freeze. You have winters in Wisconsin that would freeze the nuts off a bridge! I just couldn't do that again. Ottawa Canada has Wisconsin like winters. People who havent felt that kinda cold just dont realize how vicious it is.
What is the Global Temperature this year compared to the last few?
Yes..GW That reminds me.. it's GWB's fault...
Actually, moldy basements can serve as a great microcosmic metaphor. The first, few days that the moisture was in my basement, the problem wasn't that big because the temperature wasn't all that hot. I left it unchecked and went away again for the hot spell. During that heat it went from an organic kind of smell to a toxic mess.
I think that rises in Earth's temperature should be on everyone's minds.
Actually, moldy basements can serve as a great microcosmic metaphor. The first, few days that the moisture was in my basement, the problem wasn't that big because the temperature wasn't all that hot. I left it unchecked and went away again for the hot spell. During that heat it went from an organic kind of smell to a toxic mess.
I think that rises in Earth's temperature should be on everyone's minds.
I gave you an opportunity, you probably should have looked it up.
What is the Global Temperature this year compared to the last few?
Hot, my man, well hot. A bit cold, too...
This was the snap view of last year...
"The year 2007 tied for second warmest in the period of instrumental data, behind the record warmth of 2005, in the Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS) analysis. 2007 tied 1998, which had leapt a remarkable 0.2°C above the prior record with the help of the "El Niño of the century". The unusual warmth in 2007 is noteworthy because it occurs at a time when solar irradiance is at a minimum and the equatorial Pacific Ocean is in the cool phase of its natural El Niño-La Niña cycle."
2008 is coming up like this, which seems about right to me, because I don't think I've ever seen an odder year.
"2008 is set to be cooler globally than recent years say Met Office and University of East Anglia climate scientists, but is still forecast to be one of the top-ten warmest years.
Each January the Met Office, in conjunction with the University of East Anglia, issues a forecast of the global surface temperature for the coming year. The forecast takes into account known contributing factors, such as El Niño and La Niña, increasing greenhouse gas concentrations, the cooling influences of industrial aerosol particles, solar effects and natural variations of the oceans."
This is from the Brits, with their stiff upper lip, but jolly damn fine and precise facts.
I was glad to see the storms didn't hit too hard in all your necks of the woods, despite some pretty fierce weather warnings.
We've had an odd year down here in the South of France. Lots of rain, some big storms, but nothing really dramatic. Some heat, but no big bush-fires, and the strangest "vendange" or grape-picking for quite some time. In fact, since records began, about 2000 years ago.
Champagne should have a good year, but the Bourgogne and other regions, including Bordeaux have had a strange old time, a lot of mildew due to the rain, and the cold, followed by the heat, followed by hail, followed by dry, dusty wind....
Nice to see you all again, even you, Rocky.
Hi Nero, SBurns and the other dudes.
Salut Gog, eh !
So, where were we ?
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"The year 2007 tied for second warmest in the period of instrumental data, behind the record warmth of 2005, in the Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS) analysis. 2007 tied 1998, which had leapt a remarkable 0.2°C above the prior record with the help of the "El Niño of the century". The unusual warmth in 2007 is noteworthy because it occurs at a time when solar irradiance is at a minimum and the equatorial Pacific Ocean is in the cool phase of its natural El Niño-La Niña cycle."
2008 is coming up like this, which seems about right to me, because I don't think I've ever seen an odder year.
"2008 is set to be cooler globally than recent years say Met Office and University of East Anglia climate scientists, but is still forecast to be one of the top-ten warmest years.
Each January the Met Office, in conjunction with the University of East Anglia, issues a forecast of the global surface temperature for the coming year. The forecast takes into account known contributing factors, such as El Niño and La Niña, increasing greenhouse gas concentrations, the cooling influences of industrial aerosol particles, solar effects and natural variations of the oceans."
This is from the Brits, with their stiff upper lip, but jolly damn fine and precise facts.
I was glad to see the storms didn't hit too hard in all your necks of the woods, despite some pretty fierce weather warnings.
We've had an odd year down here in the South of France. Lots of rain, some big storms, but nothing really dramatic. Some heat, but no big bush-fires, and the strangest "vendange" or grape-picking for quite some time. In fact, since records began, about 2000 years ago.
Champagne should have a good year, but the Bourgogne and other regions, including Bordeaux have had a strange old time, a lot of mildew due to the rain, and the cold, followed by the heat, followed by hail, followed by dry, dusty wind....
Nice to see you all again, even you, Rocky.
Hi Nero, SBurns and the other dudes.
Salut Gog, eh !
So, where were we ?
At least in the US, January was the second-coldest on record.
At least in the US, January was the second-coldest on record.
Yeah, it was an odd year here, so far, too.
I'm surprised by the fact that it was still one of the warmest years overall, but then again, in parts of the planet, it sizzled.
The ice banks are melting like a kids icecream cone as he stands bedazzled by the clowns.....
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