interesting , perhaps an explanation of why our resident lefties hate god ?
Not believing in something, which is actually nothing, because it doesn't seem to exist, is not hate. Unless of course your a neo con. Then, everything is hate, I guess. You know: "they hate us 'cause were free". That kind of thing.
Do you ever wonder why nuts want to stop stem cell research but they don't seem to give a damn about the daily destruction of frozen embrios? I mean, why aren't they clammoring for the sustenance of all frozen embrios forever? Because all they care about is stopping "immoral" people from having indiscriminate sex and safe abortions. They don't REALLY give a damn about embrios. Ending stem cell research is just a means to an end. And their end is less freedom for the rest of us. It's just more conservative hypocrisy.
Believing in MMGW is not faith because there is clear and convincing (unquestionable fact?) evidence that it is real. Aren't you aware of the measured correlation between CO2 levels and temperature rise? Don't you understand that burning fossil fuels creates CO2? And aren't you aware that decreasing vegetation means decreasing CO2 intake? And aren't you aware of the heat zones that now exist around large cities? And haven't you heard about the abnormal rate of ice melting? And aren't you aware that most of the scientists who have been speaking out against the global warming theory were payed to say that by big industry?
There are natural cycles that exist in climatology but ice core records and other things tell us that we are at least partly to blame. We stopped ozone destruction and we can slow down GW...
If only we had some real leaders...and fewer dullards on the right.
I am aware of all the speculative science.
I don't believe that humans are the main cause, sorry.
If you substitute subscribe for prescribe it is almost intelligible.
But- I still can't see why the word RELATIVE is used to modify "moral" platitudes.
Relative to what?
What are you trying to say?
Ok sorry, I used the wrong word. My bad. subscribe, got it.
relative moral platitudes: I am speaking of the inconsistent moral outrages and standards that liberals hold themselves and others to. Do you understand? If you do, do you have an actual response to the statement or what?
I don't hate god, or santa claus or the easter bunny. I just don't waste my time waiting for them to come down my chimney, bring me candy or award me extended play in the game of life.
I love how conservatives will naysay evolution and global warming because it is "only theory" while basing their lives around whatever the preachers and politicians tell them to do. Then they cry about not being able to afford anymore taxes for schools or healthcare while donating 15% of their income to... you guessed it... the church.
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interesting , perhaps an explanation of why our resident lefties hate god ?
Hey you're entitled to worship anything you want, if GW does it for you so be it.......just dont ask me to pay anymore taxes towards some plan with unknown results towards a topic with so many unknowns....
As for tithing, I believe most faiths call for 10% of gross.....but Ill cut you some slack since you are so ever clueless.
Now, here's a question. Let's say you belong to a Church with 100 middle class familes regularly attending. Average gross family income is 60k, and the average family gives 8% of their gross. What does the church do with all the money? We're talking about $480,000 per year tax free.
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As for tithing, I believe most faiths call for 10% of gross.....but Ill cut you some slack since you are so ever clueless.
My father is a pastor, so I'd like to think I can handle this question.
Church budgets are reflective of the tithing of its' members.
Tithing money goes to:
Paying administrators, pastors, janitors, etc
Paying bills, upkeep, general maintenance, expansion, etc.
Donations to charities
Creation of charities
Church vans, transportation
I can't say that all churches are honest with what they do with their income, but that is just the jist of where the money goes.
It is a fact that America's churches are more effective and more generous to people in need than any gov't organization. Of course, that's not just limited to the US. In Africa, the majority of hospitals are funded with and founded by church donations. More than 70% of clinics are church sponsored.
Some people bash the Christian church for pushing their agenda on non-christians, but in reality, churches commit more time and resources into the needs of others than they do chastising sinners. My
From Scientology to Catholicism, it's all about the money, suckers.
Oh really? So you're saying they bring back members from all the 3rd world nations they visit, put them to work just so they could collect their tithing?
IMO, the ppl who are willing to ante up for all the MMGW programs before knowing the facts are the "suckers".
Of course plenty of religious organizations have figured out how to make themselves rich, and there are also plenty that do good and sincere work with the money they generate. Not all churches are good, and not all churches are bad. But since I assume you aren't tithing, at least you can rest comfortably knowing that one of the bad guys isn't buying a new boat with your 10% this year.
Both are interesting reading, if you care about this stuff and you read slowly. I still don't care much about what either one says, but isn't it fun to pretend there might still be a debate, even if Al Gore tells us there isn't?
Hardly mainstream, Gray also expects global cooling in a few years
Updated: 11:18 a.m. ET April 30, 2007
DENVER - Challenging the climate science community, noted hurricane forecaster William Gray said that global ocean currents, not human-produced carbon dioxide, are responsible for global warming, and the Earth may begin to cool on its own in five to 10 years.
I am aware of all the speculative science.
I don't believe that humans are the main cause, sorry.
I think you are confusing "speculative science" with "logical conclusion". At this point the speculation is coming from the ones who don't believe. It's wishful thinking. Bury your head in the sand. We can do no wrong. It's out of our hands. It's too late to do anything about it. Sun spots. There is no end to the hemming and hawing....and lack of leadership. Once again, our future is held hostage by lust for the all-mighty dollar.
I think you are confusing "speculative science" with "logical conclusion". At this point the speculation is coming from the ones who don't believe. It's wishful thinking. Bury your head in the sand. We can do no wrong. It's out of our hands. It's too late to do anything about it. Sun spots. There is no end to the hemming and hawing....and lack of leadership. Once again, our future is held hostage by lust for the all-mighty dollar.
I say we give it 10 years. Let's see in 10 years just how hot and flooded our world is. Until then, speculation and hysteria just aren't going to do it for me.
I apologize that I don't the same FAITH that you have in MMGW.
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