Why are you using the name of a gay roman emperor?
What a dick. I won't address your second point, but nero isn't only a roman emperor. It means black as in the color in italian. This was an Italian bike forum, remember ?
Lighten up 2-69
I remember you used a bust of nero as your avatar at one time.
And you're not black.
Why not just come out? We won't think any less of you.
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What a dick. I won't address your second point, but nero isn't only a roman emperor. It means black as in the color in italian. This was an Italian bike forum, remember ?
Lighten up 2-69
I think you are overcompensating with all the black stuff.
Also- don't think think there is any reason for name calling.
If you revere a notoriously gay emperor and request that a certain male forum member "get his tongue over here"... that's OK, although PM would probably be more apropo.
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Near-record cold in Alaska and abundant snow in the southeast Strong and widespread cold described March this year all across Alaska. Temperatures throughout the mainland were more than 8°F below average and the most extreme temperature departures of more than 16°F below average were observed in the central Interior. Areas along the Arctic coast and the southeast panhandle had relative warmth with temperature departures less than 8°F below average. The portions of the state that had extreme cold also received little in the way of precipitation as clear and sunny skies dominated. A location that received more than its fair share of snowfall was Juneau, breaking daily, monthly, and seasonal snowfall records. The vernal equinox, or time of year when daylight and darkness are approximately equal across the earth, occurred on March 20th. This a time of year in Alaska with rapid changes in daylight from day to day and large diurnal temperature ranges.
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Yea, Yea, Yea the temperature has risen in the past 75 years. The point of my post was to show how anything that conflicts with the Religion of Global Warming is rarely reported.
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Yea, Yea, Yea the temperature has risen in the past 75 years. The point of my post was to show how anything that conflicts with the Religion of Global Warming is rarely reported.
That is what the guy at newsmax was saying.
First it was a near record not a record, it seems the press likes to write about records, and it was a single month was the winter season warmer or colder than normal (significantly)?
First it was a near record not a record, it seems the press likes to write about records, and it was a single month was the winter season warmer or colder than normal (significantly)?
The UN? Well then if that's what THEY say then we better get busy...
Let's face it people - we need to get serious about Global Warming and Man-Made Climate Change and Pollution and Social Inequalities and Other Bad Things We All Know About.
So I present to you something I found on the Internet which was invented by Algore (edited to make it easier to understand and even easier to implement)
The Liberal, Rational, Logical Guide to How To Fix Global Warming Because The UN Made It Perfectly Clear We're In Trouble And It's Worse Than We Thought It Was In The 70's.
Now we all agree that the earth is warming: the UN says so and so do every single scientist in the whole world, well every single good scientist in the whole world says it's hotter now and it's hotter than it was when it was cooler and it's hotter because we're dirtying up the planet that we have no right to destroy. It's been scientifically documented so how much more do we need? I mean, we need to get going and do something, anything NOW. We should replace coal and oil power generating plants with nuclear, hydro, solar, and wind turbines. We should build them now and tear down the bad power sources right away so Global Warming stops or slows down and gets better. We should have a national electrical grid constructed next week to ensure maximum utilization and fair distribution of the clean power plants we built this weekend and the beginning of next week.
It's really important that dams and big storage reservoirs be built and rivers be rerouted via a national canal system that we creat the week after next. We should open up many new desalination plants along the coasts to ensure potable water. This is something we need to do because we need water to take a shower and wash our feet too and make spaghetti.
The highest priority thing we need to do is have adequate food/livestock, and water, and power to ensure our complete self sufficiency because we know the world-wide demand for these things will become desperate and we need to live so we need to do these important things right away before we die from Global Warming.
We'll need to save our forests from further killing and massive fires so we'll need to cut huge swaths to block fire's spread but we really should transplant those trees because they're living things and we have no right to kill them. The trees and plants which are susceptible to draught should be removed and replaced with hardier species. We need to do that right away, everywhere. And areas currently without useful ground cover need to be planted with hardy purposeful species right away. We can do this between building the clean power plants and the coast to coast distribution system, or the week after next if that's better. Ocean farming on a massive scale is imperative so we need to do that because it's the right thing to do.
Large numbers of flora and fauna that are extravagant users of water need to be replaced with hardier species adaptable to extreme temperatures. The Endangered Species Act will have to be modified to deal with these new realities and I suggest we do that right away to help save the planet and make thing nice for all.
We need to get pollution under control, or best to just stop all pollution so we should look at all the less-polluting factories in the US and they should be retained if the alternative is them moving to countries with poor pollution controls. And the workers should be paid more so they are happy.
And of course it's only logical to look at the unfortunate, low lying coastal areas (New York City, much of Florida ) and since they're predicted to be under water by the end of the century we need to move them. We should immediately begin population relocation from lower elevations to cooler mountain areas or higher coastal areas where they'll be happier and safe from Global Warming. Individual residences will need to be replaced with multifamily below ground structures.
Because of the reality of such a future, hopefully our leaders will take action before it is too late. There would be no tax increases and no additional costs to do these important things. All costs would be paid for by the rich who are living off the backs of the working man. Those with bank account balances above what they need would have that excess money redeployed to a central account we would all pay into if we have the money, and that account would pay for everything and have money left over. See, no taxes. That's an important part of this plan.
I dare anyone to find even one weakness in my logic!
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"UN panel issues stark climate change warning" = Send us as much of your money you can spare then dig deeper and we'll think of solution by 2020. Talk about money making schemes.
I asked a question a few months ago on this topic that none of the GW yahoos wanted to answer.
Why should our nation (who WOULD be footing the largest cut of the pie via Kyoto) pay large sums of money to a group of scientists researching GW, when that same money can be utilized towards R&D and/or switching over to alternative fuels?
As I understand it, Al Gore and his followers all want us to join Kyoto and to pay an ungodly amount of money to become a member of this protocol. THEN we'd have spend even more ungodly amounts of money to implement changes to our energy structure to make the required changes that Kyoto recommends.
Unlike what the forum liars will have you believe, Ive never said GW doesnt exist altogether nor am I against changes that MAKE SENSE for a better future for our children.
I dont know which scientists are driven by what motives any more than the rest of you. The forum yahoos will have you believe the ONLY conspiracy is oil driven when clearly the opposite can be true as well. IMHO, there has been no facts that clearly spell out human beings being the cause for faster oncoming warming cycle. I mean this sh!t has gotten out of control in the past 2-3 yrs, where were these guys 5, 10 yrs ago?
If all true and it's happening in just the past few yrs then Id say nothing we do can make a difference, if its coming at us this quickly so what's the point?
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I dont know which scientists are driven by what motives any more than the rest of you. The forum yahoos will have you believe the ONLY conspiracy is oil driven when clearly the opposite can be true as well. IMHO, there has been no facts that clearly spell out human beings being the cause for faster oncoming warming cycle. I mean this sh!t has gotten out of control in the past 2-3 yrs, where were these guys 5, 10 yrs ago?
If all true and it's happening in just the past few yrs then Id say nothing we do can make a difference, if its coming at us this quickly so what's the point?
Typically science is looking for answers. I think a lot of research that started in the 70's is starting to come to fruition. These reports haven't just started in the last couple of years, they go back a lot farther. What’s been happening in the last few years is the evidence of GW is very hard to refute, the planet is getting warmer. The debate (with some) is still whether man is influencing it.
I’ve seen some scientist say that even if we fixed the problem over night we wouldn’t see any changes for about 50 years and it would probably continue to get warmer during that period.
So we can take your approach and not do anything and hope things work themselves out, or we can start planning for increased famines, flooding and market instabilities caused by it.
If in the next few years, scientist come to the consensus (it’s almost to that point) that indeed our problems are being caused by CO emissions(and other pollutants), then we should work at solutions that reduce them. One way or the other the costs are going to be enormous (how much have Katrina or the Tsunami cost)?
What amazes me is how divided we all are about this subject and how much interest there is in debating it. Can either side say the debate is over ( like algore has ) ?
Clearly, at speedzilla the debate is ongoing. Rarely has a thread gone 500 postings in such a short time. I think only the "let's see your duc pics" thread has gone bigger and it started way back in dec.'04.
I would like to know: How many of you "deniers" ( which I count myself a part of ) think the climate is warming but not "chiefly" because of man's impact ?
Science has not proven a link between human activity and global warming. The CO2 emission hype is just that - hype. The global temperature has been higher than it is currently, and way back then CO2 emissions were almost zero.
All you're seeing on this site and in the Mainstream Media (MSM) is the Man-Made Global Warming (MMGW) hypsters screaming about how "all these scientists" and "anyone who knows anything" are in agreement with the theory of MMGW.
And then, when other scientists come out and state that they do not agree with MMGW, and that the science is just not there, and that there are other possible causes which should be considered including the most plausable contributor - increases in solar radiation, ... they're shot down as discredited deniers.
MMGW is the biggest hoax ever pulled on man and until the science is there... it's just another theory.
I will add that it's a very popular theory right now, especially with certain groups.
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