"As one study after another has pointed to carbon dioxide and other man-made emissions as the most plausible explanation, the cautious community of science has embraced an idea initially dismissed as far-fetched. The result is a convergence of opinion rarely seen in a profession where attacking each other's work is part of the process. Every major scientific body to examine the evidence has come to thesame conclusion: The planet is getting hotter; man is to blame; and it's going to get worse."
"There's a huge disconnect between what professional scientists have studied and learned in the last 30 years, and what is out there in the popular culture," said Naomi Oreskes, a science historian at the University of California, San Diego. Fuel companies contribute to that gap by supporting a small cadre of global-warming skeptics, whose views are widely disseminated by like-minded think tanks and Web sites. Most scientists don't know how to communicate their complex results to the public. Others are scared off by the shrill political debate over the issue. So their work goes on largely unseen, and largely pointing toward a warmer future."
And this was in 2005. The same trend has continued.
The earth is warming. CO2 emissions from man made sources are further contributing to warming that may be primarily due to normal warming and cooling cycles that earth has gone through since before liberals were allowed to exist in a free society. I think this is reasonably factual based on human knowledge. Until you and your ilk provide an affordable solution in terms of economically reasonable alternative energy so we can continue to live the way we want to live you should just keep wringing your hands in frustration and leave us alone. Buy some land in Canada or Siberia because we can all just move north while the earth warms and back south when the next cooling cycle comes, despite the best efforts of man to make it warmer by burning more fossil fuel.
The earth is warming. CO2 emissions from man made sources are further contributing to warming that may be primarily due to normal warming and cooling cycles that earth has gone through since before liberals were allowed to exist in a free society. I think this is reasonably factual based on human knowledge. Until you and your ilk provide an affordable solution in terms of economically reasonable alternative energy so we can continue to live the way we want to live you should just keep wringing your hands in frustration and leave us alone. Buy some land in Canada or Siberia because we can all just move north while the earth warms and back south when the next cooling cycle comes, despite the best efforts of man to make it warmer by burning more fossil fuel.
Considering 7 billion humans, all burning the midnight plastic and oil, the industrial revolution, growing, exploding and unbridled, irresponsible and unregulated consumption and destruction, topped off with no other viable alternative to replacing a perfectly good ecology.. you sound like a typical, hyper retarded right wing buffoon. It's your ignorance and conceited lack of responsibility telling us there's nothing to worry, it's natural, we've seen this before. Yeah, the right wing business church is a believable place to start getting facts from. All of you are beginning to sound exactly like Ted Haggard.
Nice going fool(not). Nobody expects simplistic, narrow, stunted right wingers to take earthy responsibility anymore.. lost souls and pathetic affronts to nature, freedom and honor. You dont like facts? You simply deny them lol. More ill informed, decidedly incompetent goofs disobeying and forsaking universal orders for an emotional prize of property, possessions and pathetic religious rituals.. You think shitting where you eat is A-OK.. It isnt.
You guys are the ones telling everyone: 'There are more trees than ever before". 'The polar bears are exploding in population". 'The air and water are getting cleaner". "Mission accomplished". "The fundamentals of the economy are strong". Yada yada yada. We witnessed the results of your idiotic policies, we haven't forgotten and we are not in denial. You morons just jettison reality, facts and responsibility like 5 year old children. Truly pathetic.
If the universal creator is just, it will allow you to reap your extra special denial soup of toxic waste and reward those who give a care and a concern...
Here's to GOD...shutting your lying pie holes for eternity
Considering 7 billion humans, all burning the midnight plastic and oil, the industrial revolution, growing, exploding and unbridled, irresponsible and unregulated consumption and destruction, topped off with no other viable alternative to replacing a perfectly good ecology.. you sound like a typical, hyper retarded right wing buffoon. It's your ignorance and conceited lack of responsibility telling us there's nothing to worry, it's natural, we've seen this before. Yeah, the right wing business church is a believable place to start getting facts from. All of you are beginning to sound exactly like Ted Haggard.
Nice going fool(not). Nobody expects simplistic, narrow, stunted right wingers to take earthy responsibility anymore.. lost souls and pathetic affronts to nature, freedom and honor. You dont like facts? You simply deny them lol. More ill informed, decidedly incompetent goofs disobeying and forsaking universal orders for an emotional prize of property, possessions and pathetic religious rituals.. You think shitting where you eat is A-OK.. It isnt.
You guys are the ones telling everyone: 'There are more trees than ever before". 'The polar bears are exploding in population". 'The air and water are getting cleaner". "Mission accomplished". "The fundamentals of the economy are strong". Yada yada yada. We witnessed the results of your idiotic policies, we haven't forgotten and we are not in denial. You morons just jettison reality, facts and responsibility like 5 year old children. Truly pathetic.
If the universal creator is just, it will allow you to reap your extra special denial soup of toxic waste and reward those who give a care and a concern...
Here's to GOD...shutting your lying pie holes for eternity
The air and water are dirtier, the cute polar bears are dwindling in numbers and trees are getting chopped down. Environmental groups block nuclear energy, Ted Kennedy did not want hydro power in view of his mention before he started his dirt nap, and we cannot build solar farms in desolate areas because turtles people care about less than polar bears might dwindle in numbers. It's the neodem catch 22. Obama is going to okay that Keystone pipeline and still get voted back to his Gog damning church in Chicago.
The air and water are dirtier, the cute polar bears are dwindling in numbers and trees are getting chopped down. Environmental groups block nuclear energy, Ted Kennedy did not want hydro power in view of his mention before he started his dirt nap, and we cannot build solar farms in desolate areas because turtles people care about less than polar bears might dwindle in numbers. It's the neodem catch 22. Obama is going to okay that Keystone pipeline and still get voted back to his Gog damning church in Chicago.
The idea behind environmentalism is to preserve, respect and understand the planet. So that future generations may enjoy the primal, fundamental freedoms of fresh, free air and delicious, free water. Especially when we have a planet, we have demonstrated, we can learn to live with in harmony.
Vs. a nightmare ecological scenario, similar to the economic collapse, brought on by the same arrogance we see you champion, only this: You, and your stupid ass American Stink Tank charlatans, cant fudge environmental reality like you can economic numbers or religious bullshite..
Anyone with a brain and a conscience can see right wingers were the ones touting the invincibility of the economy. They were the first ones blaming others too. They do the same now with endless lies and stupid propositions like, "we tried everything but you lefties blocked it all".. Yeah right. You think we even scratched the surface of alternative energy? You're just a goofy moron if you do.
Like I said, nobody really expects anything truthful from right wingers anymore. If they're not busy inverting biblical commands and sentiments, they're preoccupied...taking a wrecking ball to their natural world, constitution... in between violating international law and treaty.
If we still could ostracize.. chicken hawk right wingers would either be banished to caves or forbidden to wreck government further with selfish, idiotic philosophy, denial of responsibility and fairy tales.
The idea behind environmentalism is to preserve, respect and understand the planet. So that future generations may enjoy the primal, fundamental freedoms of fresh, free air and delicious, free water. Especially when we have a planet, we have demonstrated, we can learn to live with in harmony.
Vs. a nightmare ecological scenario, similar to the economic collapse, brought on by the same arrogance we see you champion, only this: You, and your stupid ass American Stink Tank charlatans, cant fudge environmental reality like you can economic numbers or religious bullshite..
Anyone with a brain and a conscience can see right wingers were the ones touting the invincibility of the economy. They were the first ones blaming others too. They do the same now with endless lies and stupid propositions like, "we tried everything but you lefties blocked it all".. Yeah right. You think we even scratched the surface of alternative energy? You're just a goofy moron if you do.
Like I said, nobody really expects anything truthful from right wingers anymore. If they're not busy inverting biblical commands and sentiments, they're preoccupied...taking a wrecking ball to their natural world, constitution... in between violating international law and treaty.
If we still could ostracize.. chicken hawk right wingers would either be banished to caves or forbidden to wreck government further with selfish, idiotic philosophy, denial of responsibility and fairy tales.
Your diarrhea on your keyboard does not change your message. You offer no solution, and you complain day in and day out anyway. I use less electricity than any neighbor of mine by far and yet am not impressed with the dearth of realistic solutions you liberals provide because other even more left libs block any alternative because they are just as protective of the sun and water and wind, and birds and desert turtles, and fish.
Considering 7 billion humans, all burning the midnight plastic and oil, the industrial revolution, growing, exploding and unbridled, irresponsible and unregulated consumption and destruction, topped off with no other viable alternative to replacing a perfectly good ecology.. you sound like a typical, hyper retarded right wing buffoon. It's your ignorance and conceited lack of responsibility telling us there's nothing to worry, it's natural, we've seen this before. Yeah, the right wing business church is a believable place to start getting facts from. All of you are beginning to sound exactly like Ted Haggard.
Nice going fool(not). Nobody expects simplistic, narrow, stunted right wingers to take earthy responsibility anymore.. lost souls and pathetic affronts to nature, freedom and honor. You dont like facts? You simply deny them lol. More ill informed, decidedly incompetent goofs disobeying and forsaking universal orders for an emotional prize of property, possessions and pathetic religious rituals.. You think shitting where you eat is A-OK.. It isnt.
You guys are the ones telling everyone: 'There are more trees than ever before". 'The polar bears are exploding in population". 'The air and water are getting cleaner". "Mission accomplished". "The fundamentals of the economy are strong". Yada yada yada. We witnessed the results of your idiotic policies, we haven't forgotten and we are not in denial. You morons just jettison reality, facts and responsibility like 5 year old children. Truly pathetic.
If the universal creator is just, it will allow you to reap your extra special denial soup of toxic waste and reward those who give a care and a concern... Here's to GOD...shutting your lying pie holes for eternity
The earth is warming. CO2 emissions from man made sources are further contributing to warming that may be primarily due to normal warming and cooling cycles that earth has gone through since before liberals were allowed to exist in a free society. I think this is reasonably factual based on human knowledge. Until you and your ilk provide an affordable solution in terms of economically reasonable alternative energy so we can continue to live the way we want to live you should just keep wringing your hands in frustration and leave us alone. Buy some land in Canada or Siberia because we can all just move north while the earth warms and back south when the next cooling cycle comes, despite the best efforts of man to make it warmer by burning more fossil fuel.
Are you schizophrenic? Hard to tell. Your post goes back and forth.
Anywho, how many people live the way they want to live? I don't. In winter, I'd like to have the thermostat up a few degrees higher and run a couple more lights. I'd like to drive a V12. Shoot, I'd like to jet off to Monaco and see F1...but I don't. So what? It's no big deal. Wants are weaknesses. It's not everyone elses task to see that you get your itches scratched. If you're the pig at the table people are going to want you to leave. Why don't you move to heaven where responsible living won't stress you out so much. Sheez, angry fellow.
‘Global warming is part of a natural cycle’—This idea is one short step above appealing to magic | How to Talk to a Climate Skeptic: Responses to the most common skeptical arguments on global warming | Grist "Objection: Current warming is just part of a natural cycle. Answer: While it is undoubtedly true that there are natural cycles and variations in global climate, those who insist that current warming is purely natural -- or even mostly natural -- have two challenges. First, they need to identify the mechanism behind this alleged natural cycle. Absent a forcing of some sort, there will be no change in global energy balance. The balance is changing, so natural or otherwise, we need to find this mysterious cause. Second, they need to come up with an explanation for why a 35% increase in the second most important greenhouse gas does not affect the global temperature. Theory predicts temperature will rise given an enhanced greenhouse effect, so how or why is it not happening?
The mainstream climate science community has provided a well-developed, internally consistent theory that accounts for the effects we are now observing. It provides explanations and makes predictions. Where is the skeptic community's model or theory whereby CO2 does not affect the temperature?Where is the evidence of some other natural forcing, like the Milankovich cycles that controlled the ice ages (a fine historical example of a dramatic and regular climate cycle that can be read in the ice core records taken both in Greenland and in the Antarctic)? Is this graph a candidate for explaining today's warming? A naive reading of this cycle indicates we should be experiencing a cooling trend now -- and indeed we were gradually cooling over the length of the pre-industrial Holocene, around .5C averaged over 8,000 years. Not only is the direction of the change wrong, but compare the speed of those fluctuations to today's changes. Leaving aside the descents into glaciation, which were much more gradual, the sudden (geologically speaking) jumps up in temperature every ~100,000 years represent a rate of change roughly ten times slower what we are currently witnessing. So could current changes be part of a natural cycle? Well, no natural cause has been identified. There is no climatological theory in which CO2 does not drive temperature. And natural cycle precedents do not exhibit the same extreme changes we're now witnessing. In short: No."
Dan's (for example) explanation for the warming is...drum roll please...
deny.
Are you schizophrenic? Hard to tell. Your post goes back and forth.
Anywho, how many people live the way they want to live? I don't. In winter, I'd like to have the thermostat up a few degrees higher and run a couple more lights. I'd like to drive a V12. Shoot, I'd like to jet off to Monaco and see F1...but I don't. So what? It's no big deal. Wants are weaknesses. It's not everyone elses task to see that you get your itches scratched. If you're the pig at the table people are going to want you to leave. Why don't you move to heaven where responsible living won't stress you out so much. Sheez, angry fellow.
‘Global warming is part of a natural cycle’—This idea is one short step above appealing to magic | How to Talk to a Climate Skeptic: Responses to the most common skeptical arguments on global warming | Grist "Objection: Current warming is just part of a natural cycle. Answer: While it is undoubtedly true that there are natural cycles and variations in global climate, those who insist that current warming is purely natural -- or even mostly natural -- have two challenges. First, they need to identify the mechanism behind this alleged natural cycle. Absent a forcing of some sort, there will be no change in global energy balance. The balance is changing, so natural or otherwise, we need to find this mysterious cause. Second, they need to come up with an explanation for why a 35% increase in the second most important greenhouse gas does not affect the global temperature. Theory predicts temperature will rise given an enhanced greenhouse effect, so how or why is it not happening?
The mainstream climate science community has provided a well-developed, internally consistent theory that accounts for the effects we are now observing. It provides explanations and makes predictions. Where is the skeptic community's model or theory whereby CO2 does not affect the temperature?Where is the evidence of some other natural forcing, like the Milankovich cycles that controlled the ice ages (a fine historical example of a dramatic and regular climate cycle that can be read in the ice core records taken both in Greenland and in the Antarctic)? Is this graph a candidate for explaining today's warming? A naive reading of this cycle indicates we should be experiencing a cooling trend now -- and indeed we were gradually cooling over the length of the pre-industrial Holocene, around .5C averaged over 8,000 years. Not only is the direction of the change wrong, but compare the speed of those fluctuations to today's changes. Leaving aside the descents into glaciation, which were much more gradual, the sudden (geologically speaking) jumps up in temperature every ~100,000 years represent a rate of change roughly ten times slower what we are currently witnessing. So could current changes be part of a natural cycle? Well, no natural cause has been identified. There is no climatological theory in which CO2 does not drive temperature. And natural cycle precedents do not exhibit the same extreme changes we're now witnessing. In short: No."
Dan's (for example) explanation for the warming is...drum roll please...
deny.
Schizo, no. I stated clearly the earth is warming. I have no doubt that CO2 contributes to that and that is man's contribution. What percent of the increase is attributable to man I don't know, maybe your scientists have a number in mind. My one major problem is the complete lack of a solution you and yours offer. Quit complaining and offer a viable solution. Grandiose thinking that billions are not going to pursue the level of lifestyle that the west enjoys now and destroy their piece of the environment worse than we ever did is silly. A broke country like the US spending our children's children's money now won't afford one more dollar to make all the other billions of people use alternative energy now to spare the environment. At least I'm attempting to be honest and realistic here, why not you?
Sorry, at SZ it's a rare bird who believes MMGW AND doesn't want to do much about it. You have a valid point about cost - not that I necesarily would agree with you (depends on the numbers and many other things).
The usual Zilla deniers have their heads completely in the sand on MMGW. You're an anomoly.
What I'd do is probably what the experts say to do. But I'd have to see the details and they'd probably ask for more than is smart - that is usually the case. First of all we have to get people to be honest about the issue. DanderthalST4, for instance, is not being honest.
Schizo, no. I stated clearly the earth is warming. I have no doubt that CO2 contributes to that and that is man's contribution. What percent of the increase is attributable to man I don't know, maybe your scientists have a number in mind.
Thats like asking "What cigarette is the one thats going to kill me"... Quite a silly contemplation.. bordering on an excuse.
My one major problem is the complete lack of a solution you and yours offer. The biggest 'solutions' we offer is simply mocked by 'you and your'.. Acknowledge, Accept, Adapt and PRE fvcking VENTION!
Quit complaining and offer a viable solution.
First off, One must orientate one's life around, mitigation, personal choices and VOTES!Working with absolute morons is near impossible. Every last intelligent step forward is met by faux news spewing idiots.
Grandiose thinking that billions are not going to pursue the level of lifestyle that the west enjoys now and destroy their piece of the environment worse than we ever did is silly. You're right. Instead of 'grandiose' religious and oil wars.. America is going to end up 'interpolicing' the world for environmental offenders.. Dont laugh.. its coming and its necessary and its, finally, a just reason to use military force without fairy tales or greedy lies.
A broke country like the US spending our children's children's money now won't afford one more dollar to make all the other billions of people use alternative energy now to spare the environment. Hey moron.. You build a better mouse trap and you know what happens? Capitalism happens lol.
At least I'm attempting to be honest and realistic here, why not you?
Not too bad an attempt.. compared to the others.
Why would a man worry about a dollar when that is the last thing you could eat, drink or breathe when 'eco crunch time' comes?
The ecology was here a billion years before the economy... It will be here a billion years after.. Putting the economy before the ecology is pure greed and sheer stupidity... If right wingers could grasp this very simple truth, I'm sure they'd do a fine job in their roles as eco stewards.
Going through this week’s issue of Nature magazine, which arrived in my in-box yesterday, the following short squib in their “research highlights” section appears:
Warming, but not as much. The climate system may be less sensitive to greenhouse-gas warming than many models have predicted.
Nathan Gillett and his co-workers at Environment Canada in Victoria, British Columbia, analysed how well the latest Canadian Earth System Model tracked temperature changes attributable to volcanoes, man-made aerosols and rising greenhouse-gas emissions. They adjusted the model using temperature records from 1851 to 2010 — 60 years of data more than most previous analyses. The model predicted a short-term increase of 1.3–1.8 °C for a doubling of atmospheric carbon dioxide levels, which is low in the range of estimates from previous forecasts.
Nature links to the original article in Geophysical Research Letters (subscription required unfortunately, though you can read the abstract), entitled “Improved constraints on 21st-century warming derived using 160 years of temperature observations.” It is a typically dense article filled with all of the usual qualifiers, but several things make this a bombshell and a blow to the catastrophist narrative. First, this study was conducted by the Canadian Centre for Climate Modelling and Analysis of Environment Canada, which is Canada’s EPA, so the climate campaigners can’t use their favorite talking point that this comes from a private, fossil-fuel funded skeptic outfit.
Second, there is no disguising that the finding of this model, along with recent similar studies, that global warming is overestimated by roughly a factor of two in the usual models the IPCC uses. The authors appear to know that this is politically incorrect, and add the usual caveats at the end to mitigate the implications of their findings: “[W]e find that [the model’s] multi-decadal internal climate variability is lower than that in other models. We therefore recommend caution in interpreting the scaled projections derived from this single model. . .”
The authors appear duty-bound to include that the full range of possible warming could be 1.2 – 4.3 degrees C, but the body of their study and the strength of their main conclusions do not give much support for this.
This is merely the latest in a series of recent climate modeling studies that conclude that the standard “consensus” forecast of the amount of warming to be expected by a doubling of carbon dioxide has been dramatically overestimated. Which is just about par for the course with most environmental scares. As more studies like this dribble out from the scientific community, eventually we’ll reach the proverbial “tipping point” beloved of so many climate alarmists—only it won’t tip the way they think.
Why would a man worry about a dollar when that is the last thing you could eat, drink or breathe when 'eco crunch time' comes?
The ecology was here a billion years before the economy... It will be here a billion years after.. Putting the economy before the ecology is pure greed and sheer stupidity... If right wingers could grasp this very simple truth, I'm sure they'd do a fine job in their roles as eco stewards.
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You can never have too many tv's.
It's the ultimate expression of dumb.
Going through this week’s issue of Nature magazine, which arrived in my in-box yesterday, the following short squib in their “research highlights” section appears:
Warming, but not as much. The climate system may be less sensitive to greenhouse-gas warming than many models have predicted.
Nathan Gillett and his co-workers at Environment Canada in Victoria, British Columbia, analysed how well the latest Canadian Earth System Model tracked temperature changes attributable to volcanoes, man-made aerosols and rising greenhouse-gas emissions. They adjusted the model using temperature records from 1851 to 2010 — 60 years of data more than most previous analyses. The model predicted a short-term increase of 1.3–1.8 °C for a doubling of atmospheric carbon dioxide levels, which is low in the range of estimates from previous forecasts.
Nature links to the original article in Geophysical Research Letters (subscription required unfortunately, though you can read the abstract), entitled “Improved constraints on 21st-century warming derived using 160 years of temperature observations.” It is a typically dense article filled with all of the usual qualifiers, but several things make this a bombshell and a blow to the catastrophist narrative. First, this study was conducted by the Canadian Centre for Climate Modelling and Analysis of Environment Canada, which is Canada’s EPA, so the climate campaigners can’t use their favorite talking point that this comes from a private, fossil-fuel funded skeptic outfit.
Second, there is no disguising that the finding of this model, along with recent similar studies, that global warming is overestimated by roughly a factor of two in the usual models the IPCC uses. The authors appear to know that this is politically incorrect, and add the usual caveats at the end to mitigate the implications of their findings: “[W]e find that [the model’s] multi-decadal internal climate variability is lower than that in other models. We therefore recommend caution in interpreting the scaled projections derived from this single model. . .”
The authors appear duty-bound to include that the full range of possible warming could be 1.2 – 4.3 degrees C, but the body of their study and the strength of their main conclusions do not give much support for this.
This is merely the latest in a series of recent climate modeling studies that conclude that the standard “consensus” forecast of the amount of warming to be expected by a doubling of carbon dioxide has been dramatically overestimated. Which is just about par for the course with most environmental scares. As more studies like this dribble out from the scientific community, eventually we’ll reach the proverbial “tipping point” beloved of so many climate alarmists—only it won’t tip the way they think.
Good post, Dan.
We can only hope that's the case.
Pretty stupid to bank on it though.
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I thought I better read your link before going on my way. All that stuff is a quote. If you're going to just post a quote then put quotation marks around it or say "This is a quote". Damn, for a second there I thought you could think for yourself.
And now I see it's Powerline. That throws the whole thing into question, a big question. Next time you want to add to a conversation try going to the source. There is no credibility at Powerline.
And you know what? It is chock full of articles that support MMGW.
So really, you just put your foot in your mouth...again.
Sorry.
Danderthal is inescapable.
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You can never have too many tv's.
It's the ultimate expression of dumb.
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Forgot.
The ultimate expression of dumb is a Hummer.
Ben, can you move this to War Room, please. Maybe even combine it with Global Warming 2.0, depending on how everyone feels about it.
Sometimes I just want to yell at these idiots and I can't do it in the Lounge.
So, a study is done by the Canadian Centre for Climate Modelling and Analysis of Environment Canada, which is Canada’s EPA.
And this study concludes that global warming is overestimated by roughly a factor of two in the usual models the IPCC uses.
And because the article was posted on a website that is chock full of articles that support MMGW... I somehow put my foot in my mouth?
See this is why so very few people take you emotional Global Warming Alarmists seriously. And now Gog and the others will go on and on and on, spewing their hatred and emotional rants, posting their silly scenarios, demanding we take care of "the ecology". The joke here is those who worship at the alter of Global Warming, a religion.
98% take it seriously Dan.. Including the guy you just posted lol! You make false claims and retarded hoax accusations and NEVER follow up. Just like this retarded post. I DARE you to peer review this and corroborate.. I DARE ya... Bring it from distorted christian blogosphere rumor to scientific fact...
NOTHING on Environment Canada's Website...
You will be pounding circles through square hoes all your life methinks. You probably do it to endless circumstances like evolution, history, law etc., etc., etc., blah blah blah...
If you're not part of the solution.. you are the problem. Have you no shame or pride?
Can I make a rule that unless you want to actually comment on the article (either for or against), otherwise just STFU?
Saw that this a.m. on drudge-ukmail link too. Figured you'd get it up here before me. It will be interesting...
Prepare for a Gog-Jerkoff51 onslaught of charts and Hate to follow !
There's no end the stupidity and denial of a ding-a-ling.. This is rubbish.. Do you not understand anything? Are you going to forever deny that which is obvious and urgent? I suppose the truth will NEVER set you guys free.. we're all damned because of it.. sigh.
It sounds 'all too familiar'... If your mistakes are always 'someone else's'.. You can sail your cruise ship close to shore because you are Jesus's 'Captains of Everything'.. We know whats coming.. you're secretly planning for your spot in the lifeboats...
You will certainly NEVER learn.
I GUESS YOU CAN CALL THAT AN "AGAINST" Mr. 'rule' man....
Can I make a rule that unless you want to actually comment on the article (either for or against), otherwise just STFU?
Saw that this a.m. on drudge-ukmail link too. Figured you'd get it up here before me. It will be interesting...
Prepare for a Gog-Jerkoff51 onslaught of charts and Hate to follow ! Is that a for or against Nero? I think he just told you to STFU Nero...
Or you told yourself.. Which, is not a stretch...
How about we use your own, imbecilic logic on you? You're all domestic terrorists.. lol. FAr worse than Obama ever was.. If you find it outrageous, unconscionable and flagrantly unacceptable to lump you in with this right wing turd.. You're learning! If you dont understand just how much you operate your dilapidated philosophy on this kind of craziness that I sarcastically(although I'm not so sarcastic these days)...well then.. you're pretty much hopeless.
hnson on Jul 25, 2011 at 11:00 am Inspired by climate denial pundits, right-wing Norwegian terrorist Anders Breivik railed against global warming “enviro-communism” in his manifesto. Breivik — who confessed to killing 93 people in two attacks in Norway — published on the web a 1,500-page manifesto describing his Christian conservative conspiracy theories. In one section, “Green is the new Red – Stop Enviro-Communism!” Breivik argues that global warming is actually a eco-Marxist plot “to create a world government” using the “Anthropogenic Global Warming scam”:
You might know them as environmentalists, enviro-communists, eco-Marxists, neo-Communists or eco-fanatics. They all claim they want to save the world from global warming but their true agenda is to contribute to create a world government lead by the UN or in other ways increase the transfer of resources (redistribute resources) from the developed Western world to the third world. They hope to accomplish this through the distribution of misinformation (propaganda) which they hope will lead to increased taxation of already excessively taxed Europeans and US citizens.
WTF has happened to all the conservative smarty people? Sold the farm, the soul and the lie? Have the extremely stupid right wing ding-a-lings really forced them out, sold them out or bought them out? It would seem so. Well, I have posted the physiological, spiritual and selfish insights into the predispositions evident in a denier's brain. I guess some people just look at Prick Sanatorium, batshit crazy hypocrites and think.. 'Jesus sent them'.
Despite their painfully low IQs and patent idiocies.. they want them to continue the failures and introduce even more insanity to their failed state of being... wow.. SAD... Just the thought of religious hypocrite idiots trumping accomplished and esteemed science.. what a cringe.
But you morons persist..heheh... How many different way can you repackage your lies and denials?
The truth is sooo much easier but, alas it seems. just a little beyond your grasp and ability to own your circumstances under an inventory of truths.
Nicer, kinder, smarter and safer people on the side of truth too.
The other day, I wrote about a study that attempted to explain why conservative white men (CWM) are so loathe to accept the threat of climate change. It has to do with system justification and identity-protective cognition.
The original and still most popular approach to dealing with climate deniers is reasoned persuasion: facts and figures and reports and literature reviews and slideshows and whitepapers. This hasn’t ever really worked, but climate types keep trying, like tourists in a foreign country who try to overcome the language barrier by talking louder and more slowly.
A somewhat more sophisticated take says that we should talk about climate differently, in a way that does not trigger CWM defenses. David Ropeik (whose work on risk perception everyone should be reading) has a post on the CWM study in which he says:
We have stop making climate change a zero sum if-you-win-I-lose battle. We have to frame the issue in ways that work within everybody’s underlying cultural/tribal perspectives. We have to realize that answers are more likely to be found, and solutions are more likely to be reached, if the goal is finding common ground …
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