There never was a consensus among scientists in support of anthropogenic global warming. Some signed on because that was the only way to get governments to support their research. As the gulf widens between climate change models and real world data, more are skeptical.
The scam is threatened most by the global financial crisis. Cash-strapped European governments are cutting costly subsidies for solar and wind. So attendance is down in Durban, and faces are long. A chill wind is blowing. It will power no windmills.
From a couple of day ago. Related...
DURBAN, South Africa (AP) — The president of a U.N. climate conference has announced agreement on a program mapping out a new course by all nations to fight climate change over the coming decades.
The 194-party conference agreed to start negotiations on a new accord that would put all countries under the same legal regime to enforce their commitments to control greenhouse gases. It would take effect by 2020 at the latest.
A life with one's head up one's asshole...I guess you cant see the AGW from your shitty vantage point. You got your poo in your ears, eyes and brains...You guys are insane.... But hey, you're the types that would vote for a 'pray the gay away' Michele Bachmann.
Religion... Science is religion now? lol
Uber idiots. Why dont you go on an anti germ crusade? They dont exist, we didnt evolve..blah blah...It's about as ridiculous as the what you propose today. The war on smart is on still I guess. We were hoping it died with Bush and the NEoJackOff teabaggers leaving office after ruining the nation. We forgot to megaphone the data, updates and consensus to the generation with their heads up their asses(the ones who voted for Bush)... Lister and Darwin are writhing in disgust at you, beyond frustrated that you still harm and endanger this world immeasurably....
You have no academic skills to counter smarts, hard work, research, faculty, networking dedication, peer review, scientific consensus or common, 'founding fathers' kind of sense. Dan is proof that cut and paste makes you stupider... While adult minded smart people are working on the issues, you guys are calling the earth flat...omf.. Well, The Flat Earth Society is defunct.. you're next...yay. Lets see you peddle your stupidity in a few years when NOBODY will be denying it.. They'll be too busy warming up a pot of tar for your lame ass. Maybe then we can start feathering you idiotic chicken hawks...
America was founded on getting rid of Alchemy, astrology, dumb fukery and religious lunacy.. setup by smart types.. the kind of people the reich wing makes fun of now.. You guys want to go back to medieval church Europe and beyond.. back to the medieval east...lol. But you'll use the science that you choose and like in your 'modern' lives. No hypocrisy there.. no way. Enjoy that science, and its derivatives, the science that provides you your modern life.
But alas, you bozos cant imagine the compounding damage that is coming from a soiled environment..It's not surprising, considering your stances on so many issues.. retarded!
I'd love to know how it is you dismiss 7 billion(soon to be 15 billion)people, using up all the resources, as "negligible"..lol... Of course it's not going to have an effect, of course you can live without acknowledging it.. Of course you simpletons(and oil companies) are going to explain how earth works, take excellent care of it, guard it and mitigate any dangers and PAY if you're wrong.. of course...lol!
You morons... too engulfed in the deranged world of stunted reasoning and bizarre logic.. fuzzy is an understatement...
Chevron is sitting on $13 billion in cash on hand. Added together, the Big Five oil companies — BP, Exxon, Chevron, ConocoPhillips and Shell — are sitting on cash resources of $59 billion and made nearly $1 trillion in profits over the past decade.
Hey moron.. thats just Chevron.. Just ONE of them and that just Q3....You tell us to follow the money but...You dont follow the money.. cuz you cant think at all.. We just want to know how it is you can dismiss the staggering profits of the people you get your misinformation from.. How do you do that? You got no soul? YOu really are that stupid? You're lost in a world that isnt working out the way mommy and pappy told you it would?
You feel your way through and that: That is what Bush and the jack offs did for eight years.. enough to ruin your nation... but why stop there? Why not ruin the global ecology?
We've been asking you to show us who is making that kind of big money on the scientific side of things... I guess the millions that scholars compete for is the same as the hundreds of millions that big oil makes raping our resources.. This isnt much of a stretch... for a child minded insane person. Why dont you explain again WHO gets the money..lol.
Still no answer. Guess you'll have to make up some more realities...
You morons... too engulfed in the deranged world of stunted reasoning and bizarre logic.. fuzzy is an understatement...
I have yet to see an iota of logic, reasoning or cohesive thought come from your mis-wired excuse of a brain. Your religion (AGW) is flawed and your god is a false idol.
Did you follow the money or what? Show us.. Soemthing free from tabloid of Faux news lies please...
We all know the blabber trap bullshite of faux news, congratulations, you spew lies as good as any brain-dead right wing ding-a-ling.
The cornerstone of your idiotic, flat earth diatribes against environmental responsibility is "Follow the money".. Well? Have you?
Never mind your kiddy emotions.. Try some reasoning, some math, some facts, some logic, some common sense and some truth...
Stop being a compete idiot and tell us about the money already...
If airline staff told you your plane had a 1 per cent chance of crashing, would you board it? Well, we have been planning a flight that would supposedly give us a 33 per cent chance of very severe weather and perhaps a 10 per cent chance of crashing. Do you still trust the planners? Now it turns out the chance of very severe weather is actually 90 per cent and the chance of crashing is 50 per cent.
Some of the more thoughtful sceptics discuss the scientific uncertainty, but conflate this with the policy question. Of course there is uncertainty in the science. The policy question is what to do about the risk that the science is right. We have known all along that decisions would have to be made before the picture was clear, because the warming effects of greenhouse gas emissions are delayed. We will not feel the full effects of the gases already emitted for another decade or two. The policy question is whether preventative action is good insurance, especially as the premium is not so expensive.
In this situation we can only try to make the best assessment. The people who can best assess the climate are those who have been studying it all their lives. The role of the Inter-Governmental Panel on Climate Change has been to distil the collective judgement of climate scientists. The message has been clear and getting clearer for two or three decades. We seem to be in great danger.
What happened to the 'move on to action' promised by many dim witted reich wingers after the grand poobah denier funded study that(oops) confirmed AGW? Their word is simply no good, bunk and vile at this point. They now blame their own findings and accuse them of bias and misdeed lol....
The more simpleTims are wrong the more they dig into rubbish bins(known as corporate stink tanks) for philosophy... Natural born sore losers. They also have been proven to be incompetent... ad nauseum.. Why would any democratically minded American elect again a cartel that lied to him and sold out his own country and his planet?
All the reich wing lying in the world hasnt painted Obama black... How much did it cost America to have its hillbillies unite, in a undemocratic, concerted lie fest to make its FAIRLY elected President fail? Meanwhile they sanctioned and celebrated all the disasters their commander and THIEF was taking and selling. All the while taking zero responsibility... amazing.
Did we ever get an answer from any one of you goofs.. WHat if you're wrong about your denials??? Nope, still waiting for the 'follow the money rubbish' explanation...
Fundamentalist theologian Calvin Beisner announced that physicist Muller's study was irrelevant.
He called Muller's position a "rhetorical sleight of hand." He said the study had inherent flaws and criticized his papers for not being peer reviewed.
Beisner heads the Cornwall Alliance, a global warming denial group of right-wing Christians more committed to the free market than environmental stewardship.
Beisner, other fundamentalist Christians and profiteers from global warming pollution (big oil and dirty coal) will likely be the last outpost of climate change deniers.
Science and experience are working against them.
You guys like to call opinions 'facts' right?
Get this story... Sounds like something a ding-a-ling would do.
"There's a likelihood that they want [the page] to match up with statements that Sarah Palin made," added Walsh. "That's pretty uncommon, in terms of coming to Wikipedia and attempting to change history. The reality is that Wikipedia isn't a place for original research. It needs to be a proven piece of information before it can be added in Wikipedia."
He added that it's rare for people to try to change a Wikipedia page to make it align with something a public figure has said and may be catching heat for.
"It's pretty unlike it will work and it's not particularly common," said Walsh. "It's a difficult medium to go in and say this is the truth when you have so many people watching the page making sure there's no vandalism to it."
In one instance, someone added this to the page:
"Revere did not shout the phrase later attributed to him ('The British are coming!'), largely because the mission depended on secrecy and the countryside was filled with british army patrols; also, most colonial residents at the time considered themselves British as they were all legally British subjects."
Editors removed it, citing a lack of historical sources.
And the written exchanges between the people trying to revise the Paul Revere page and the people editing it have gotten rather heated. "This must be removed as it is a LIE designed to mislead," wrote one editor in regards to a section that had been added contending that Paul Revere had rung bells to scare the British off.
Other editors took exception with people who wanted Palin and her remarks added to the Revere page as fact, noting that her remarks have no place in a historical context.
Same people who exposed the "Hide the Decline" we never hear of anymore. Morons.
Imagine someone stupid enough to allow people like Palin to rewrite history.. Oh wait.. you guys are that stupid...
Thanks Dan, I spit diet coke all over the desk blotter and had to change the page.
But a small price to pay to see Giggles spitting his tonsils. HI Goggy, don't be mad at people here and don't smart talk back to mommy. She'll cuff your punk pachouli oil smelling ass in a heartbeat.
“To meet the targets under Kyoto for 2012 would be the equivalent of either removing every car, truck, ATV, tractor, ambulance, police car and vehicle of every kind from Canadian roads or closing down the entire farming and agriculture sector and cutting heat to every home, office, hospital, factory and building in Canada,” Kent said.
TORONTO — Canada pulled out of the Kyoto Protocol on climate change Monday, saying the accord won’t help solve the climate crisis. It dealt a blow to the anti-global warming treaty, which has not been formally renounced by any other country.
“To meet the targets under Kyoto for 2012 would be the equivalent of either removing every car, truck, ATV, tractor, ambulance, police car and vehicle of every kind from Canadian roads or closing down the entire farming and agriculture sector and cutting heat to every home, office, hospital, factory and building in Canada,” Kent said.
TORONTO — Canada pulled out of the Kyoto Protocol on climate change Monday, saying the accord won’t help solve the climate crisis. It dealt a blow to the anti-global warming treaty, which has not been formally renounced by any other country.
Aw c'mon Dan, we want to hear goggy's enlightened (superior intellectual) response. For some reason I don't think he likes the Kyoto protocol and will remain gutlessly mute on the subject.
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