Isnt it odd that the same people who waved the flag for the neocons, and caused incalculable damage to, and greatly diminished America, are now the ones saying that weather and climate are the same and that Global Warming is a hoax? I mean, it must make the average person nervous that right wingers havent learned any lessons from their extended, mountainous mistakes or, so far, have taken zero responsibility whilst attempting to assert their 'know it all' hillbilly, conflicted, inaccurate science views. Awesome.
Imagine if they were still plotting the 'stay the course'("we were never about stay the course Charlie") with their inane, insane agendas. Here's a great example. Ding-a-lings claim 'global warming' isnt a term that is used anymore, they claim it isnt happening and certainly the eight billion of us have nothing to do with it. Despite the overwhelming evidence, a super majority of unbiased, credible scientists, they will create nonsense, get behind proven frauds and failures and chant sarcasm to all but the core of non credible, bought and paid for morons that constitute their 'political and religious' empire... truly sad. Such an unintelligent design. Can they take a lesson from their recent failings? Nope, because they do not process reasoning through, truth, parallels, edicts, history, metaphors, innuendos, sarcasm, science, law or nature... they are selfish, ill prepared, narrow minded and emotional T-Bags!
How many ways can a ding a ling hurt us? Many ways indeed. As we saw in the first eight years of the new millennium. They are getting a free pass to make as many mistakes as possible in one lifetime and NOT being charged or billed for the picnic, the orgy or the mess. They are like the Quislings among us... waiting to shoot our collective in the back...Not even being held accountable and yet the first to complain or accuse...... no wonder Wall St. failed, no wonder...
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NASA - Global Warming Causes of global warming
Climatologists (scientists who study climate) have analyzed the global warming that has occurred since the late 1800's. A majority of climatologists have concluded that human activities are responsible for most of the warming. Human activities contribute to global warming by enhancing Earth's natural greenhouse effect. The greenhouse effect warms Earth's surface through a complex process involving sunlight, gases, and particles in the atmosphere. Gases that trap heat in the atmosphere are known as greenhouse gases.
Causes of global warming
Climatologists (scientists who study climate) have analyzed the global warming that has occurred since the late 1800's. A majority of climatologists have concluded that human activities are responsible for most of the warming. Human activities contribute to global warming by enhancing Earth's natural greenhouse effect. The greenhouse effect warms Earth's surface through a complex process involving sunlight, gases, and particles in the atmosphere. Gases that trap heat in the atmosphere are known as greenhouse gases.
The main human activities that contribute to global warming are the burning of fossil fuels (coal, oil, and natural gas) and the clearing of land. Most of the burning occurs in automobiles, in factories, and in electric power plants that provide energy for houses and office buildings. The burning of fossil fuels creates carbon dioxide, whose chemical formula is CO2. CO2 is a greenhouse gas that slows the escape of heat into space. Trees and other plants remove CO2 from the air during photosynthesis, the process they use to produce food. The clearing of land contributes to the buildup of CO2 by reducing the rate at which the gas is removed from the atmosphere or by the decomposition of dead vegetation.
Now, according to ding-a-ling central, America's highest authority for Earth and Space is a hoaxer?
Where is plan B oh jilted ones? Since the air and water are irreplaceable, shouldn't there be a serious, competent and logical 'Plan B'? I guess not huh? Still, not a word from any ding-a-lings here, there or anywhere... it's not in their philosophy because they are busy staying the course whilst the fundamentals of the ecology are strong....
An Oakland CA company is trying to put a large solar farm in the desert in CA and the site has been chosen on public land. Over 140,000 homes could be supplied by the solar arrays. Several companies are using this as a litmus test for additional projects. Unfortunately there are desert tortoises on the land, like less than 50 . The Siera club therefore opposes the plan and relocating the tortoises would cost the company around 25 mmmmmillion dollars. Do you really wonder Gog why no good plan B exists. You liberal dongs cannot even compromise on something as small as a patch of desert and some f'ing turtles to move forward. You have no one to blame but yourself. Nuclear power is not acceptable to enough of you. The rich libs don't want water energy farms in view of their waterfront estates. A bird might die in a windmill. A road cannot be built through swampland. Everything needs a 10 million dollar environmental survey first. Cleaner coal is not acceptable because it's still coal. No refineries unless they are in someone elses state.
How about this. Let them drill all the god damn oil wells in the gulf or Alaska or wherever the oil companies want and tell them they must spend 80%of profits on renewable energy(wind and solar and water). Let them build a damn even if a rare species of some stupid fish is endangered. There are plenty more are'nt they. Why don't you all stand up and compromise on some aspects that would allow progress NOW even if a company like Exxon can make more money off of it. Liberal dongs talk a good talk and can spend even MORE money than a ding-a-ling neocon, but at the end of the day they want their cake and eat it too. Well you can't have it. Even if you personally could compromise and agree with anything I said, your uberliberal dong brothers in armless have too many pet projects that all must be considered. Save the world indeed, one species of tortoise at a time.
What's plan C, Gog/Le Balless/Area 69 Hillary Clinton? You offer grandious ideas of the future but no profitable way forward. Well if someone ain't making money off it, you are not going to be able to tax them more for the pleasure. what's plan C, eh?
An Oakland CA company is trying to put a large solar farm in the desert in CA and the site has been chosen on public land. Over 140,000 homes could be supplied by the solar arrays. Several companies are using this as a litmus test for additional projects. Unfortunately there are desert tortoises on the land, like less than 50 . The Siera club therefore opposes the plan and relocating the tortoises would cost the company around 25 mmmmmillion dollars.
What an ignorant, godless, nature-less attitude. Tortoises are absolute, natural wonders and magnificent examples of evolution... you know evolution?, the true science that was squashed by Luddites like yourself for what? Profits or profits? You remind me of the 'outta sorts apes' who landed in Galapagos in the 1600s and proceeded to make extinct some of the richest ecology and evolved species ever known to earth and it inhabitants. What you said there reminds me that right wingers dont need to be on the 'solution' team, fuk that.. They just need to stop being the problem. AS if you have to wipe out a species to move forward on eco issues.. yay for black and white mentality...
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Persecution
No-one knows exactly how many giant tortoises there were originally but it has been estimated that more than 100,000 were hunted in total over the centuries. The result today is that three races of Galapagos giant tortoise are extinct while just one individual survives from a fourth. There are about 15,000 tortoises left altogether. As the hunters found it easier to collect the tortoises living round the coastal zones, the healthiest populations today tend to be those in the highlands. Persecution still continues on a much smaller scale; more than 120 tortoises have been killed by poachers since 1990.
Do you really wonder Gog why no good plan B exists.
I'm sure you're gonna lay a huge straw-man on us. Something like the idiotic idea that we could ethanol our way out of sustainability issues. The Plan B does exist, it's called react to the scientific certainties before compounding problems make it impossible or inevitable. Not scoff at good data and reject it for obvious shams and shysters. The world needed bailing out after rigth wing ideology was unleashed... Look at auto makers, in denial for years and now with their hands out.. sound like right wing ideology to me, just without the 'blame others' portion attached.
You liberal dongs cannot even compromise on something as small as a patch of desert and some f'ing turtles to move forward. What kind of person would doom a species to extinction as a casual reference to moving forward? You think a species of hundreds of millions of years in evolved success is not worth a creative approach to OUR sustainability? Thats how the end starts moron. Next thing you know you'd have only your own ugly faces to look at on this earth. Yuk! Take some godly heed of the creations underfoot you barbarian you....
You have no one to blame but yourself. Blame? WTF man are you in an insane asylum? We are blaming you guys because you have taken all the wrong actions, direction and decisions... take some responsibility!
Nuclear power is not acceptable to enough of you. The rich libs don't want water energy farms in view of their waterfront estates. A bird might die in a windmill. A road cannot be built through swampland. Everything needs a 10 million dollar environmental survey first. Cleaner coal is not acceptable because it's still coal. No refineries unless they are in someone elses state.
Basically, we do not need the reckless, shameless antics of right wing lunacy to spoil our future on this planet simply because they claim they "know best"... yeah right. These dismissals of species and habitat have resulted in endless failures, disasters and losses.... and zero factoring of consequences is done by a right wing retard and their cult... There are no more frontiers morons, and no more excuses NOT to take care, heed and responsibility... You keep acting like the Chinese and the next thing you know, your countryside and government will resemble theirs....
How about this. Let them drill all the god damn oil wells in the gulf or Alaska or wherever the oil companies want and tell them they must spend 80%of profits on renewable energy(wind and solar and water). Let them build a damn even if a rare species of some stupid fish is endangered. There are plenty more are'nt they. Why don't you all stand up and compromise on some aspects that would allow progress NOW even if a company like Exxon can make more money off of it. Liberal dongs talk a good talk and can spend even MORE money than a ding-a-ling neocon, but at the end of the day they want their cake and eat it too. Well you can't have it. Even if you personally could compromise and agree with anything I said, your uberliberal dong brothers in armless have too many pet projects that all must be considered. Save the world indeed, one species of tortoise at a time.
What's plan C, Gog/Le Balless/Area 69 Hillary Clinton? You offer grandious ideas of the future but no profitable way forward. Well if someone ain't making money off it, you are not going to be able to tax them more for the pleasure. what's plan C, eh?
Like I said before, you have the time to type because your transgressions and failures have been absorbed by the collective... You're not out there paying off your wrong decisions and to left the tab to the tax payer.
Least you could do is acknowledge the living ecology and its fantastic evolutionary warriors that have survived hundreds of millions of years, without and then with us... until we stood up. You feel like a big man to stand by and watch that animal or that species be eradicated? I dont, I feel shame and I'd be willing to shiver until a better way was implemented. That better way would come quickly if the retarded right wing was pushed out of their fat ass, cement head positions of power and shitty influence. Lemme guess, God made this place for you cowboys to destroy along with other gods and gremlins?
BTW, what is the rush to cause damage to systems or enact inferior solutions to our adaptive process?
I know how difficult things can get for you tokers but let me try to help you out, not too many ppl are doubting global warming. What ppl are doubting is what you and ppl of your ilk have conveniently dropped and that is MAN MADE global warming. But don't let more FACTS ruin your tirade...
I know how difficult things can get for you tokers but let me try to help you out, not too many ppl are doubting global warming. What ppl are doubting is what you and ppl of your ilk have conveniently dropped and that is MAN MADE global warming. But don't let more FACTS ruin your tirade...
To the Three Stooges: Please discredit this article.
Inhospitable, barren, and covered in snow and ice year round, the North and South Pole epitomize frigid conditions. Yet it's currently colder across the United States than at both.
AP Photo/Al Maglio
A fire hydrant pokes out from the snow in Kirksville, Mo. on Thursday Jan. 7, 2010 after an overnight storm.
Inhospitable, barren, and covered in snow and ice year round, the North and South Pole epitomize frigid conditions. Yet it's currently colder across the United States than at both poles.
The South Pole is the coldest place on Earth -- just take a look at the most recent images from the webcam at the Amundsen-Scott South Pole Station, which captures a new picture of those freezing conditions every 15 minutes. But at present, it's merely -12 Fahrenheit.
The North Pole is normally significantly warmer than the South, but it's a chilly -17 up there right now, a temperature that must sound positively Caribbean to anyone living in, say, Bismark, North Dakota (-33 Fahrenheit at present).
Wind chills across the United States are bringing our sub-freezing temperatures as low as 50 degrees below zero, making large swaths of the country substantially colder than either pole.
It's colder from Dallas to Denver than it is at the South pole. North and South Dakota, Minnesota, and Iowa are recording temps ranging from 5 down to -18; With the wind chill, it feels -17 F in Topeka, Kansas. Even Memphis sits at 10 degrees, and around 0 with the wind chill. Temps at Sun Studios shouldn't feel like the South Pole.
The National Weather Service continually monitors weather conditions at the Amundsen-Scott South Pole Station in Antarctica, where it's currently -7 Fahrenheit. The mean temperature last year at Antarctica's South Pole was -54 Fahrenheit. The highest temperature ever recorded at the Amundsen-Scott South Pole Station was 7.5 F on Dec. 27, 1978, while the lowest was −117 F on Jun. 23, 1982. Brrr!
The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration operates a North Pole webcam, deployed on an ice floe at the Pole. NOAA shuts down the cam over the winter due to the winter darkness, which lasts from October to March. In the dark of winter today, it's currently -17.
Brace yourself for a cold and blustery winter here at home ... or maybe pay a visit to balmy Antarctica.
Gog once again you and your like miss the point. You have no plan. You just want to point the finger and talk about ideals and not reality. You want seemingly for government to solve the problems like global warming when they cannot even balance a budget. What is your answer? After all you are the one who keeps talking about the problem so it is upto you and not us to propose a viable solution which we can comment on. Assume MMGM and not natural climate cycle is real, as you clearly do, and put forth an economically viable real world solution to the problem and not make stupid statements about neocons blah blah blah. Pretend your a registered US democrat and your party is in a position of great power for the next 12 months. What is the plan and how is it paid for? If you cannot give a straightforward answer then don't bother. And no we don't need to hear about any blimps on relaxing trans-Atlantic flights in place of airplanes.
Think Antarctica Is Cold? Try AmericaInhospitable, barren, and covered in snow and ice year round, the North and South Pole epitomize frigid conditions. Yet it's currently colder across the United States than at both.
That should make you wonder WTF is going on... shouldn't it? Instead of a juvenile retort against the bulk of scientific certainty, you espouse gotchas at the climate with a weather reports? I suppose you'd chase down the last remaining snowflakes on earth to prop up your losing positions...You're as nuts as the Queen of flipflop... Sarah Palin.
Is NOAA in on the hoaxwagon too? Gee, what would Limbaugh or Beck think of NOAA? Whats that? Too busy on a TBAG site to look into real science? Too filled with thrills for shills? NCDC: * National Climatic Data Center (NCDC) *
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Global warming: What the science tells us - washingtonpost.com Thomas R. Karl of NOAA (no he's NOT related to Karl Marx)
"I'm here today to talk about the science behind global climate change, to answer questions about what we know, what the data tells us, and to dispel misconceptions and myths".
Sample email... Germantown, Md.: Good Afternoon,
A lot has been made about the e-mails from East Anglia, (especially in Washington, D.C.). It's difficult to assess the true scope of the issue because of the plainly partisan bias at play in the government. Could you please explain what exactly the e-mails mean for the scientific community at work on climate issues, and also explain why East Anglia university is important in this debate, if it is at all. (If it had been MIT, or Harvard, how would that have affected the debate?) Thank you! Thomas R. Karl: These emails do nothing to undermine the very strong scientific consensus that the earth is warming and that human activity is largely responsible.
It goes on and on. Please read on..
Throw another hoaxer on the denier's pyre fools...Yet another highly respected, corroborated, peer reviewed scientific group who explain the facts as they are. They must be in cahoots with NASA...Yet, according to you guys, we should listen to the greatest political, social and financial failures in American history when they claim everyone is in on the climate hoax except them. They are patriotic heroes for exposing this huh?
Oh bring us a draft dodger turned science expert or a corporate shill who talks low ball, debunked trash to gullible idiots. How about an enraged, frothing hillbilly? A Joe the weatherman? Maybe a stupid, lying douche like Palin? You know, your 'special' ones who see right through 'liberal science', socialism and Nazism... fvcking crazy hillbillies!
Oh ding-a-lings.... Neanderthals lived alongside of humans but they died out.. you're next. There's no way you can hide from evolution! The Flat Earth Society finally ditched it's tail and wiggled and flopped when irrefutable photographic evidence was pasted into every classroom in the entire world...an even denier's sloping skulls. Eventually, a five year old child could see how nuts these ding-a-lings were. Yes, the flat earthers denied blatant evidence at first but, eventually, they died off or succumbed to technology, common sense and science, reality and the evolution of the human intelligence pool.
The ding bats moved into mega churches and religion at that point methinks. What better way to amass fools under one deluded roof.
Not unless you water board or suicide bomb us into oblivion will we give up truth and progress for your lame ass alternatives. Until such time as right wingism devolves out of our evolving, progressive stride, we have science and competence to illuminate your stupidity and help US make proper, adult, intelligent decisions about a changing world... FTR.. DNA s not a theory, either is evolution, gravity or MMGW...
Your retard bubble retracts and shrinks..it constricts your arguments into a narrow, pathetic alternatives best left to Hollywood or comic books... you are looking more and more like born again dingbats every day and every post...
So your plan is to rant about nonliberals. The liberals are doing little but mouth-service. Instead of yet another liberal diatribe, why don't you take a scientific approach to solving the problem in any realistic manner you choose and put forth here for all to read your plan, Gog. We are waiting.
I hear sounds too- chirp,chirp,chirp.
Seriously Gog,give it to me good,in plain english a science nerd like me could understand. PlanG-basic tennants, who pays and what shareand long term realistic goal. ie CO2 under 300ppm has been basically stated unobtainable by scientists, maybe evn 350pppm not possible with current methods.
Learned scientists have submitted this data to the stooge demagogues of Speedzilla. Provided for your discerning intellect to condemn, disqualify, discredit and generally blame this faulted data on any person on the planet that does not vote liberal. Ok Moe, Larry and Curly, have at it with your sanctimonious psychology for the edification of the 99% of us who apparently are lunch box toting neanderthals.
30 Years of Global Cooling Are Coming, Leading Scientist Says
From Miami to Maine, Savannah to Seattle, America is caught in an icy grip that one of the U.N.'s top global warming proponents says could mark the beginning of a mini ice age.
NASA Earth Observatory
December temperatures compared to average December temps recorded between 2000 and 2008. Blue points to colder than average land surface temperatures, while red indicates warmer temperatures.
From Miami to Maine, Savannah to Seattle, America is caught in an icy grip that one of the U.N.'s top global warming proponents says could mark the beginning of a mini ice age.
Oranges are freezing and millions of tropical fish are dying in Florida, and it could be just the beginning of a decades-long deep freeze, says Professor Mojib Latif, one of the world's leading climate modelers.
Latif thinks the cold snap Americans have been suffering through is only the beginning. He says we're in for 30 years of cooler temperatures -- a mini ice age, he calls it, basing his theory on an analysis of natural cycles in water temperatures in the world's oceans.
Latif, a professor at the Leibniz Institute at Germany's Kiel University and an author of the U.N.'s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) report, believes the lengthy cold weather is merely a pause -- a 30-years-long blip -- in the larger cycle of global warming, which postulates that temperatures will rise rapidly over the coming years.
At a U.N. conference in September, Latif said that changes in ocean currents known as the North Atlantic Oscillation could dominate over manmade global warming for the next few decades. Latif said the fluctuations in these currents could also be responsible for much of the rise in global temperatures seen over the past 30 years.
Latif is a key member of the UN's climate research arm, which has long promoted the concept of global warming. He told the Daily Mail that "a significant share of the warming we saw from 1980 to 2000 and at earlier periods in the 20th Century was due to these cycles -- perhaps as much as 50 percent."
According to the U.S. National Snow and Ice Data Center in Colorado, the warming of the Earth since 1900 is due to natural oceanic cycles, and not man-made greenhouse gases. The agency also reports that Arctic summer sea ice has increased by 409,000 square miles, or 26 per cent, since 2007.
Many parts of the world have been suffering through record-setting snowfalls and arctic temperatures. The Midwest saw wind chills as low as 49 degrees below zero last week, while Europe saw snows so heavy that Eurostar train service and air travel were canceled across much of the continent. In Asia, Beijing was hit by its heaviest snowfall in 60 years.
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According to the U.S. National Snow and Ice Data Center in Colorado, the warming of the Earth since 1900 is due to natural oceanic cycles, and not man-made greenhouse gases. The agency also reports that Arctic summer sea ice has increased by 409,000 square miles, or 26 per cent, since 2007.
Many parts of the world have been suffering through record-setting snowfalls and arctic temperatures. The Midwest saw wind chills as low as 49 degrees below zero last week, while Europe saw snows so heavy that Eurostar train service and air travel were canceled across much of the continent. In Asia, Beijing was hit by its heaviest snowfall in 60 years.
Phunny, the ding-a-lings are predicting an ice age now? Had to pick the opposite of what Al Gore says hehe. I wish it was fun watching morons pound squares through circular holes...
The source for your post....
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U.S. National Snow and Ice Data Center
Arctic sea ice reflects sunlight, keeping the polar regions cool and moderating global climate. According to scientific measurements, Arctic sea ice has declined dramatically over at least the past thirty years, with the most extreme decline seen in the summer melt season.
I couldnt reckon your copy paste to the 'site' it originated from...
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The agency also reports that Arctic summer sea ice has increased by 409,000 square miles, or 26 per cent, since 2007.
Now, I suppose we'll see more idiotic fantasies from ding-a-ling central on abominable showmen... and why the new truth is a lie... Google is in on the hoax too! Just like Bush failures were either Clinton's or Obama's fault, we will see them torture us with more of their 'pass the blame' ideology...
They never pay.. look at all the problems caused by people who never pay for their mistakes....
Had to pick the opposite of what Al Gore says hehe.
Don't look now, but nature itself hasn't exactly been following Al Gore's plan lately. Shit, Al Gore himself doesn't practice what he preaches... why would you, loyal worshiper?
I hear sounds too- chirp,chirp,chirp.
Seriously Gog,give it to me good,in plain english a science nerd like me could understand. PlanG-basic tennants, who pays and what shareand long term realistic goal. ie CO2 under 300ppm has been basically stated unobtainable by scientists, maybe evn 350pppm not possible with current methods.
You are asking just a little too much of a hippie artist type of fellow...
Whether it's business, politics, sports, or homelife, anyone who thinks they know a problem exists but cannot come up with a viable alternative is and always will be useless. And those who do not practice what they preach are hypocrites. Nobody likes useless know-it-all hypocrites.
I cannot wait to get Sarah Palin's opinion on natural climate change on Fox news.
I can wait. But then again, I don't watch FOX News, so I'm cool. I'd be just fine if I never had to watch her speak again... for the rest of my life. I'm with Area51 on this one.
I'm pretty firmly committed to two theories right now:
1) The DMG wanted to kill motorcycle road racing in America.
2) John McCain wanted to lose the Presidential Election.
Still, not a word from any ding-a-lings here, there or anywhere... it's not in their philosophy because they are busy staying the course whilst the fundamentals of the ecology are strong....
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