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What's with the personal attacks? I thought that was one of the rules here?

Your response is typical of AGW fanatics. There is no real solid proof, just banter and BS.
Yeah, right . Like the deniers at Speedzilla don't have the same sort of response. Give me a break .

No solid proof? You just put the nail in your own coffin. Just like that you stepped into the circle of jerks, ur, uhm, circle of circle jerks. Deniers are like Sarah Palin. Both are whacko.
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Your response is typical of AGW fanatics. There is no real solid proof, just banter and BS.
Rules ? Did you say rules ?
We ain't got no stinkin' rules !
Ceptin' theyaint none. It's every denier for hizzelf.

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What's with the personal attacks? I thought that was one of the rules here?

Your response is typical of AGW fanatics. There is no real solid proof, just banter and BS.
Not true. There is enough proof to have convinced every single peer-reviewed and serious scientist on the planet.

If we seem a little "short", it's just being tired of the same mindless "questions" being asked all the time by people who are too lazy to do just some simple research. I hope you're not just another one.

I've seen the effects myself of rapid, Human-induced Global Warming, I've understood the science that has led, uh, virtually every scientist on the planet to acknowledge it as being real, rapid and needing attention last year.

I also understand the Deniers, and who they're manipulated by, and why, and I also understand the simple citizen who doesn't have a clue and is baffled by either vastly complicated formula and the sheer stubbornness of science NOT to jump to conclusions, and the plethora of sly spin pumped out by the Deniers.

It's not a simple issue, and it's also not a "religion", although I'm sure some people take it waaaaaay OTT.
Then again, the destruction of all life on the planet may have this effect...

Seriously, once you understand what a simple 5 ° C temperature increase, on average, can do to the incredible fine strand we walk the existence tightrope on on this planet, you begin to understand why a degree becomes important.

The science is not conclusive about AGW, but then, science by it's nature is never conclusive. But the science that has caused the alarm is accurate and is valid.

Maybe this will help you understand better. It helped me.

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Watch the Carlin vid, BRod. It's them !
I did watch it and thanks for posting that. George hit the nail on the head in that rant.

Have you seen the youtube video from Conan where Al Gore claims the earth's core is at MILLIONS of degrees? Unfortunately it's been taken down due to copyright issues. Nothing like massive exaggeration to make a point. Typical of Gore and his cronies.
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"This country was founded by a group of slave owners who wanted to be. Am I right? A group of slave owners who wanted to be free! So they killed a lot of white English people in order to continue owning their black African people, so they could wipe out the rest of the red Indian people, in order to move west and steal the rest of the land from the brown Mexican people, giving them a place to take off and drop their nuclear weapons on the yellow Japanese people. You know what the motto for this country ought to be? 'You give us a color, we'll wipe it out.'"

"The difference between left and right of center...originated in the French parliament. The people left of center were liberals; the people right of center were conservatives. Broadly speaking. And generally speaking, people on...the right of center, are interested in property values, property, property rights. The rights and the rights of property. And generally speaking again – it's all generalized – the left-of-center people are more concerned with humans and human beings and human concerns; to the care of humans, not the care and worry about property rights. That's generally been true. And Bush is pushing this country farther down the hill, faster than anyone has before."

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I did watch it and thanks for posting that. George hit the nail on the head in that rant.

Have you seen the youtube video from Conan where Al Gore claims the earth's core is at MILLIONS of degrees? Unfortunately it's been taken down due to copyright issues. Nothing like massive exaggeration to make a point. Typical of Gore and his cronies.
Luckily you've never slipped up, or ever made an error.

So, how hot is the interior of Mars ? Respond immediately, without looking it up, and I expect it to be accurate, after all, you Deniers like to point to the melting of the Martian poles as "pwoof" that it's the Sun and not mankind's smoking of the planet which is causing AGW....so obviously you'll have all the facts in your head.

Gore is a politician, and a bit of a smug prick, and his wife is a kook. But he's correct in his message, and he saw an opportunity and he took it. That's why he's a rich politician and not a used car salesman.

The Denierosphere is quick to jump all over Al, yet stunningly inept or incapable of fact-checking or actually verifying anything except the most basic things like an obvious slip-up under the unwinking eye of the camera.
How odd is that ?

Big Al's mansion's "carbon footprint".

snopes.com: Al Gore's Energy Use

Oh yeah, if you're wondering about bringing up "but there's no scientific consensus..." anytime in the near future, don't bother, just read.

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I did watch it and thanks for posting that. George hit the nail on the head in that rant.

Have you seen the youtube video from Conan where Al Gore claims the earth's core is at MILLIONS of degrees? Unfortunately it's been taken down due to copyright issues. Nothing like massive exaggeration to make a point. Typical of Gore and his cronies.
Yeah, just watched it for the first time a few days ago. Funny how no one corrects him or taunts him from the audience like they did Carlin.
He bloviates freely like a puking buzzard and the morons lick it up.
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IPCC is not alone in its conclusions. In recent years, all major scientific bodies in the United States whose members' expertise bears directly on the matter have issued similar statements.
When you factor in the consequences for being wrong with the evidence of the inescapable, it makes the right wingers even more delusional and dangerous than ever speculated hitherto. We cant get rid of them, they're like bankers and CEOs. They get bonuses for being repeatedly wrong and seriously incompetent. They proudly state that we should wait until it's too late. Not leaders, wankers.
Leaving the innovation and adaptation to China and Russia. That is not a really capitalist or a conservative either. It's more like a Koreshian complex from the compounds of Waco. Hillbilliies on steroids.

Even Adolph Hitler realized that after you kill off the philosophers and the professors or lie and bully out the contrary opposition, you're left with a bunch of hooligan retards who cant run a country unless it's into the ground. Thats the real reason he shot himself.. he realized all he had left were Becks and Limbaughs et al. These American dipshits had an eight year running go at just this very direction(into the ground) and YES, they wanted to continue onward, downward.... retards...
Scientist Glenn Beck and stateswoman Anne Coulter are more credible to them than any fancy pancy group of scholars. Thats why gayboy, drug addict TV evangelists prosper in their midst and deniers are in a heavenly, faith based cloud... blaming others... What utter human bankruptcy... Must be some part of 'intelligent design' we just dont understand.
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Luckily you've never slipped up, or ever made an error. YOU MEAN LIKE AGW ? NO, SORRY. I HAVN'T YET.

So, how hot is the interior of Mars ? Respond immediately, without looking it up, and I expect it to be accurate, after all, you Deniers like to point to the melting of the Martian poles as "pwoof" that it's the Sun and not mankind's smoking of the planet which is causing AGW....so obviously you'll have all the facts in your head.
TOTAL NON SEQUETOR

Gore is a politician, and a bit of a smug prick, and his wife is a kook. But he's correct in his message, and he saw an opportunity and he took it. That's why he's a rich politician and not a used car salesman.
NO. HE'S WORSE THAN USED CAR SALESMAN. HE'S A SNAKE OIL SALESMAN, AND YOU'RE BUYING !

The Denierosphere is quick to jump all over Al, yet stunningly inept or incapable of fact-checking or actually verifying anything except the most basic things like an obvious slip-up under the unwinking eye of the camera.
How odd is that ?
IS THE DENIERSHPERE ABOVE OR BELOW THE TROPHOSHERE ? IS THAT SETTLED SCIENCE ? GOT CONSENSUS ?

Big Al's mansion's "carbon footprint".

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Oh yeah, if you're wondering about bringing up "but there's no scientific consensus..." anytime in the near future, don't bother, just read.
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BEYOND THE IVORY TOWER: The Scientific Consensus on Climate Change -- Oreskes 306 (5702): 1686 -- Science
YEAH, GREAT SOURCE. EVERYONE KNOWS THEY'RE FUNDED BY BIG SCIENCE...

FROM NOW ON LK, THIS IS HOW I'M GOING TO COUNTER ALL OF YOUR STRAW MAN "CONSENSUS"
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Old 12-14-2009, 09:58 PM
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Strawman...lol

well LK? Convinced? The CAPS make nZero more credible btw. Thats a Beckish technique.

Never heard straw-man or fallacy or any philosophical term ever when their rants were based on celebrating one failure after another during Bush's acid reign.
Were they warned? Yes. Was an attempt made to educate them? Yes. Did they listen? um, no. Did they mock the concerned, educated, logical people? Hell yes they did. Will they do it again and again and again? But of course. We're stuck with them. The Americans who were victorious should have evicted them after the civil war. Back to the middle ages preferably.

Note how their arrogance grows with each blunder they champion. Look who cleans up their messes. They deny that too. If MMGW denial doesnt qualify them as retarded then I have got to get used to the new smart. To the savvy and reliable 'conservatives', wrong is the new right. failure is the new success. Dumb is the new smart. Lie is the new truth and liberators are the new villains.

Socialists are the new Nazis...
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Goggy,
Copenhagen is a left-wing, bed wetters failure. Pot banging college kids and anarchists are all to come out of "the last chance to save the planet ".
They / you've become a cliche.

You've fallen for the worlds biggest con. How's that global warming working out for you up there in Kanadastan ?

What a joke !
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BED WETTERS ALL

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The pussification of the american male is almost complete !
Read McDermotts piece and see:

Maldives President Mohamed Nasheed is an Eco-Rock Star - Brings Down the House in Copenhagen : TreeHugger
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Old 12-15-2009, 03:40 AM
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I always thought a bedwetting pussy was a person who acted tough and mean during the day but wet the bed at night. I always heard my friends make fun of bullies that way. It's the masquerade that makes the wanker.

Like an elevated, religious. anti gay crusader doing meth boys in sleazy motels. Or a draft dodger starting a war on a lie. A ding-a-ling man is thinking that a protest for a better world is a pussy thing to do? Thinks that only he can consider, and understand a conservative philosophy? Thinks he's got a secret ace hidden away in his soul? Thinks he's better than others. All those right wing morons, and their rotten performance, are adding up to make an equation that you're gonna have to figure out Nero... Are you a moron too? You are really talking like one lately and we all know your history.

Today's 'bed wetters' are the ones who ingest copious amounts of bovine hormones, processed foods and plastic estrogens that seem to make them aggressive, forgetful, arrogant and untruthful. This is another one of those new fangled, complicated social, biological and environmental situations that has been cropping up since the days of modern chemistry and diagnostic medicine. A situation the poor Nero and company fail to comprehend or research. Dismissing it as witchcraft or something churchy. Like a that communist protesting tobacco lies.

Of course, the ways we protect the earth's precious air and water never really occupies much of your brain and pretty much none of the time. It shows with you boys. I can tell by the juvenile bile you ooze towards top level scientists and peer review. They teach you that in bile bull camp? You can shout as if you've discovered the plot of the millennium you fools, but you havent. It's the consensus of smart, trustworthy, sane people calmly identifying dangers that your lethargic, inept brains seem determined to overlook... no matterr how hard it's being clubbed with facts. I use you idiot hero Bush as a classic example of why your judgment is in need of judgment. The word fail comes to mind. The way you adapt to knowledge and information makes me thing you're in a persistent vegetative state. Example: Right wingers pick the impossible science hoax over the entirely likely MMGW reality, without even a brief consult with odds or ends...nice gents, you're consistent I'll give you that. .

It's a double fail if you talk or think like XFBO and blame Clinton AND Obama for the failures or the messes of the first eight years of the new millennium ... leaving someone conspicuously missing, like the facts at a Heart Land Institute meeting. We're behind schedule, off course, down and out in a leaky boat because of your denials, bad ideas and terrible leadership, care to go and get some better ideas and training instead of screeching for the helm again?

I look forward to a time when Limbaughian right wingism is defunct and considered only for giggles, amusement or mere philosophical fodder or utter boredom. No longer associated with decisions, emotions, reality checks, policy or spirituality and imprinted on children!!. Educated right the fvck out of humanity. S t a m p... gone. That would help the majority immensely...no offense.

Instead we'll suffer them, as they harm us all the way to the end game, in a protracted, ugly slur of slimy, disingenuous misdeeds and traitorous attacks from a long and distinguished list of America's finest hillbillies...

They call it rapture methinks.
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What's with the personal attacks? I thought that was one of the rules here?

Your response is typical of AGW fanatics. There is no real solid proof, just banter and BS.
Don't sweat that asswipe, it's no coincidence that he's called A-hole51 by everyone.

Mind you, he wouldn't have half the balls to speak to someone like that face to face, I'd bank on it.
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Don't sweat that asswipe, it's no coincidence that he's called A-hole51 by everyone.

Mind you, he wouldn't have half the balls to speak to someone like that face to face, I'd bank on it.
He's the nicest asswipe I know. In fact, if I vaporized grass, I stick my head in a bag with him anytime.
Yeah, that's it. We're bestest buddies. That's nero on the left and Ahole on the right. Ooops, got that bass ackwards.
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YEAH, GREAT SOURCE. EVERYONE KNOWS THEY'RE FUNDED BY BIG SCIENCE...

FROM NOW ON LK, THIS IS HOW I'M GOING TO COUNTER ALL OF YOUR STRAW MAN "CONSENSUS"
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Don't drink and post, Nero. Steady on that gin, now, y'hear ?

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And then people like you are shocked, SHOCKED I say when finally those "bed wetters" you sneer at, their message lost in the same sly babble that has conned-vinced you that there is no AGW and that it's all a commie plot to tax you more start resorting to actions which will make the Red Brigade look like kindergarten kids.

Which will, in turn, create the complete destruction of your freedumb and will slip you under the quilt of fascism like a tucked-in child, drugged on BS and listening obliviously to all else to the happy-clapping fairy-stories from the Rupert Moloch Ministry of Strewth, as you're boned by the sneering owners of your feeble mind.

The chances to actually understand what is going on and make a difference is the greatest opportunity we, as a race, have ever had. We have stood on the edge, and we have looked down.
That you don't want to see because you've been blinded-by-the-Right, I can understand.
Just don't hold us responsible for what comes next.
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The pussification of the american male is almost complete !
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Maldives President Mohamed Nasheed is an Eco-Rock Star - Brings Down the House in Copenhagen : TreeHugger
Never has your moniker, Nero, been more appropriate.
Happy-clap while Rome burns, Nero.

"Four years ago myself, and many fellow activists, sat in solitary confinement in Maldivian prison cells. We sat in those jail cells not because we had committed any wrong. We sat in those cells because we had deliberately broken the unjust laws of dictatorship. We had spoken out for a cause in which we believed. That cause was freedom and democracy.

There were times, sitting in that prison, when I felt more alone than you can imagine. There were times when I started to believe the doubters, who said the Maldives would never become free. Sometimes it felt like the doubters were right. The dictatorship had the guns, bombs and tanks. We had no weapons other than the power of our words, and the moral clarity of our cause. Many democracy activists like us had vanished, forgotten by history, their struggle a failure.

But, in spite of the odds, we refused to give up hope.We refused to listen to the voices of doubt and discouragement. We refused to be swayed by those who could not see that change was on the way. And we were right to stand up for what we believed.

We won our battle for democracy in the Maldives. I stand before you today as the first democratically elected President in the history of my country.
The path to democracy in the Maldives was not straight-forward. It was bumpy and full of turns. But we were determined that no matter how difficult the terrain, we would reach the end of the road. And we succeeded in our cause.

Four years later and a continent away, we meet here to confront another seemingly impossible task. We are here to save our planet from the silent, patient and invisible enemy that is climate change.
And just as there were doubters in the Maldives, so there are doubters in Copenhagen. There are those who tell us that solving climate change is impossible. There are those who tell us taking radical action is too difficult. There are those who tell us to give up hope.
Well, I am here to tell you that we refuse to give up hope. We refuse to be quiet.We refuse to believe that a better world isn't possible."
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Gets my vote.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maldives

I guess you think that the Maldives don't risk anything from Global Warming, either, Nero ? Just another scam ?
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Don't sweat that asswipe, it's no coincidence that he's called A-hole51 by everyone.

Mind you, he wouldn't have half the balls to speak to someone like that face to face, I'd bank on it.
You'd likely lose, as well. Just like you banked on Bush and greed-driven Crapitalism.

You da winna ! You da man !! You see dem tings clearly now !

You should smoke some dope and actually see where you've gone oh-so-wrong, XFOB.
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